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Long Range Heavy Bullet Rifle Help?
« on: January 01, 2018, 04:42:19 PM »
Been thinking of building a long range rifle capable of shooting 200+ grain bullets.  Primary use would be bear and elk hunting to 600 yard and target shooting to 1000 yards.  I have a 6.5 creedmoor capable of what is mentioned....minus the 200+ grain bullets so really looking for suggestions on the larger bore rifles. 

Rifles I have considered: 340 weatherby mag, 338 win mag & ultra mag, 300 weatherby mag and 300 win mag. 

Figure whatever I build will have a 26" in barrel with a break.  Looking to weigh in around 11-12 lbs total.....anything lighter will likely kick like a mule.  I do all my own reloading so cost of rounds is not that big a deal and should not be taken into consideration.  Ease of finding components though is a big deal. 

Thanks for any suggestions.


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Re: Long Range Heavy Bullet Rifle Help?
« Reply #1 on: January 01, 2018, 04:52:49 PM »
Is there a velocity or energy minimum or an overall drop you're looking for at the 600 yd mark? 

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Re: Long Range Heavy Bullet Rifle Help?
« Reply #2 on: January 01, 2018, 04:57:00 PM »
Is there a velocity or energy minimum or an overall drop you're looking for at the 600 yd mark?

To keep it simple....yes, enough energy take an elk sized animal.  Minimum 1000 ft/lbs at 600 which any of these calibers should handle.....with most bing in 1500+ ft/lbs. 


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Re: Long Range Heavy Bullet Rifle Help?
« Reply #3 on: January 01, 2018, 04:59:52 PM »
Buy my 300. I want a lighter weight one to mule kick me.
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Re: Long Range Heavy Bullet Rifle Help?
« Reply #4 on: January 01, 2018, 05:00:37 PM »
300 wsm built to shoot the 210-215s. should be able to get 2800-2900 fps.

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Re: Long Range Heavy Bullet Rifle Help?
« Reply #5 on: January 01, 2018, 05:22:51 PM »
300 win mag with 215's will take you to 1000 on targets and meet your game expectations.   

The weatherby's can be a pain to load for with those bottleneck brass and 3/8" freebore.  However my son has a 338-378 that after 200 rounds of tweaking now hits 8" steel cold bore first shot at 1000. 

Have used a 338 wm with no brake for most everything for many years and been very satisfied out to 700 yards.  Stock 338 Vanguard with vx 4-24 is 9.5 #.   Anything over 10# is a beast to me.   Son's 338-378 is 11# and needs a brake.

With big brake kick is not bad on a 10# rifle.

If you already have a 6.5 creedmoor I would consider a true 1000 yard cannon - 338 edge being most affordable. 

« Last Edit: January 01, 2018, 07:55:05 PM by Magnum_Willys »

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Re: Long Range Heavy Bullet Rifle Help?
« Reply #6 on: January 01, 2018, 05:58:04 PM »
 :yeah:

I have a 300 win that shoots 215 bergers at 3025 fps. It weighs just over 10 lb with a scope and bipod. It has a 28 inch barrel and a brake. Recoil isnít bad. I watched the bullet impact all 3 deer I shot with it this fall and watched them drop in the scope. 380 to 677 yards.

I didnít want to added expense or blast of the ultra mag sized cases or bigger and the winny will do whatever I want.

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Re: Long Range Heavy Bullet Rifle Help?
« Reply #7 on: January 01, 2018, 05:58:58 PM »
Take your pick 300 RUM, 300 Winnie, 30 Nosler all shooting Berger 215's will suit you well and with the new brass company, ADG, making Lapua quality brass for the 300 RUM, in a non wildcat chambering, it would be my first choice.

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Re: Long Range Heavy Bullet Rifle Help?
« Reply #8 on: January 01, 2018, 06:12:38 PM »
Nothing like planning a custom for the new year ............... was too foggy to shoot yday


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Re: Long Range Heavy Bullet Rifle Help?
« Reply #9 on: January 01, 2018, 06:15:51 PM »
I ordered another from mike last week.  :chuckle: I hate waiting

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Re: Long Range Heavy Bullet Rifle Help?
« Reply #10 on: January 01, 2018, 06:15:55 PM »
.338 Edge!

Pleasure to shoot with a muzzle brake at the weight you mentioned. Wicked accurate! Flat crushes game!

300gr Berger Hybrid.









300 yards with the Hornady 285's.





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Re: Long Range Heavy Bullet Rifle Help?
« Reply #11 on: January 01, 2018, 06:44:51 PM »
I ordered another from mike last week.  :chuckle: I hate waiting
Yea waiting 6 weeks for hydrodipper - after they have the stock with bedding - was a killer.  heh

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Re: Long Range Heavy Bullet Rifle Help?
« Reply #12 on: January 01, 2018, 07:44:18 PM »
Look into the 300wsm with the 200 or 212 ELD-X bullets.  Great BCs and they do great against game.  I have been reading awesome results with these bullets paired with RL-26, 3,000ish fps with no pressure signs.

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Re: Long Range Heavy Bullet Rifle Help?
« Reply #13 on: January 02, 2018, 05:52:21 PM »
Jrebel - for the usage you've described I'd look to the 300 Win Mag or the 300WSM in a 1:10 twist. If you may want more capability down the road, the 300RUM and the big 338's will do all that you want and much much more.
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Re: Long Range Heavy Bullet Rifle Help?
« Reply #14 on: January 02, 2018, 06:02:19 PM »
The 300wsm falls far short behind the other 30 cals when you move into the heavy high b.c. bullets.  I've shot a pile of big bullets out of my wsm that has a 26" 9 twist and those long bullets just chew up too much case capacity.  With 67gr of h4831sc I was blowing primer pockets.  That was 2,915fps.  Bullblaster was shooting 215 bergers out of his win mag at over 3050 with no issue.  He backed it off a bit for better brass life but probably could have milked it even more.  If you want bang for your buck go win mag, RUM, or Norma.  The norma pushing 230's would be a super duper option as well.
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