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Re: New pistol advice
« Reply #50 on: January 03, 2018, 01:06:49 PM »
I guess I might look at it a little different. The idea of “carry “ pistol is for something that is threatening your life potentially. For a little more weight why wouldn’t you go with a 45 over a 9. A lot more energy for the little extra weight. I think some people carry just to say they do because they can.

Is a 9mm really too small? I've never been shot but I can't imagine a close range pistol hit to be something to shrug off.

I don't know I'm truly asking; is there really anything to the bigger is better claim other than it's better to be over prepared?

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Re: New pistol advice
« Reply #51 on: January 03, 2018, 01:14:10 PM »
I guess I might look at it a little different. The idea of “carry “ pistol is for something that is threatening your life potentially. For a little more weight why wouldn’t you go with a 45 over a 9. A lot more energy for the little extra weight. I think some people carry just to say they do because they can.

Is a 9mm really too small? I've never been shot but I can't imagine a close range pistol hit to be something to shrug off.

I don't know I'm truly asking; is there really anything to the bigger is better claim other than it's better to be over prepared?

The 9mm is plenty! They are accurate usually lighter than a .45 with the same magazine capacity. Some find the 9mm easier to control and get back on target others can control both just fine. While I like the 9mm, I find myself carrying a .45 more often. Especially in the colder months of the year when heavier clothes conceal a 1911 frame much better than a t-shirt and shorts.

My thought process is. A 9mm bullet may expand but a .45 bullet sure isn't going to shrink!
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Re: New pistol advice
« Reply #52 on: January 03, 2018, 01:24:36 PM »
I guess I might look at it a little different. The idea of “carry “ pistol is for something that is threatening your life potentially. For a little more weight why wouldn’t you go with a 45 over a 9. A lot more energy for the little extra weight. I think some people carry just to say they do because they can.

Is a 9mm really too small? I've never been shot but I can't imagine a close range pistol hit to be something to shrug off.

I don't know I'm truly asking; is there really anything to the bigger is better claim other than it's better to be over prepared?


i guess when it comes to life or death and you may only get off a few shots why not 45. I would not want to get shot with a 9mm either or a 22 for that matter.

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Re: New pistol advice
« Reply #53 on: January 03, 2018, 01:31:56 PM »
I forget the name but there was a revolver made that you could shoot all manner of 9mm ish rounds out of. 380,all 9mm, all 38 and 357 rounds. It was a snub nosed revolver with a special kind of cylinder to grab the different kinds of cartridge lips.

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Re: New pistol advice
« Reply #54 on: January 03, 2018, 04:34:30 PM »
I'm looking through some other threads and reading through some reviews and articles and am finding lots of comments about swapping out parts like sights and springs to improve on some of the models. Is that something that guys do because they like tinkering with and customizing their guns or is that a red flag to stay away from a model with a known defect?

Thanks again for all the help and input its truly appreciated.

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Re: New pistol advice
« Reply #55 on: January 03, 2018, 05:50:50 PM »
yes and no

Glock guys running 10 mm like to beef up their guns so they can shoot ammunition that is heavier than what the factory tuned the gun for. 
Some added parts to beef up the gun is warranted when shooting the big stuff, and improve accuracy for the heavier bullets and better support for the brass with all that pressure.  This is probably what you see most in a hunting forum, beefing up 10mm guns to shoot big powerful rounds for charging bears.

Other guys want to mess around with different conversions, I put that in the tinkering category, it's fun and easy to do.

Other guys like adding bling, customize grips or change sights for personal preference. 

A modded gun can shoot circles around a factory one, or it can jam and be worthless.  Just depends on the person doing it and combination of parts used. 
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Re: New pistol advice
« Reply #56 on: January 03, 2018, 06:39:14 PM »
Why not just get the hk factory nickel p7m13 if that's to big try to get a hk nickel p7m8 or the p7m10 and if you don't like those try hk pk3 or a plain p7. :dunno:

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Re: New pistol advice
« Reply #57 on: January 03, 2018, 07:28:05 PM »
I have a Glock 20 (10mm) that I LOVE to shoot.
I got a stouter spring, since I have some heavy loads for Griz country.
But it's too big to conceal carry.

I have a Ruger LC9S in 9 mm, and it is a fun little pistol.

There's no need to change sights/springs/grips/bling......... unless you want to.

I encourage you to seriously consider size for a carry pistol.    My Ruger is so much more carry-able.
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Re: New pistol advice
« Reply #58 on: January 03, 2018, 08:29:23 PM »
I'm looking through some other threads and reading through some reviews and articles and am finding lots of comments about swapping out parts like sights and springs to improve on some of the models. Is that something that guys do because they like tinkering with and customizing their guns or is that a red flag to stay away from a model with a known defect?

Thanks again for all the help and input its truly appreciated.


Actually, each mfgr spends hundreds of thousands of dollars to make a specific a caliber work with each weapon. The ammo has changed so much with technology, you really don't need to change anything unless you're Biggerhammer. Just buy a gun and buy the store bought ammo and you're good to go.
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Re: New pistol advice
« Reply #59 on: January 03, 2018, 08:41:20 PM »
38/357 are slightly bigger, .357, 9mm is. 355. I use .355 bullets out if a 38 for plinking ammo. Don't think I'd do it the other way around though

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Re: New pistol advice
« Reply #60 on: January 03, 2018, 11:07:40 PM »
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Re: New pistol advice
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Re: New pistol advice
« Reply #62 on: January 04, 2018, 12:54:04 AM »
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Re: New pistol advice
« Reply #63 on: January 04, 2018, 02:41:11 AM »
I forget the name but there was a revolver made that you could shoot all manner of 9mm ish rounds out of. 380,all 9mm, all 38 and 357 rounds. It was a snub nosed revolver with a special kind of cylinder to grab the different kinds of cartridge lips.

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The make and model escape me but I recall reading about a .357 mag that could shoot 9mm with moon clips. Not sure on the .380 though it was also available in .45 lc and .454 casull able to shoot .45 acp with moon clips as well. It makes me think if you cut the the cylinder back you could do it with any revolver.

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Re: New pistol advice
« Reply #64 on: January 04, 2018, 05:45:22 AM »
I have an SP10i 2 or 3 inch, I forget. I used to have a few S&W 686's too. Those are great guns also..
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Re: New pistol advice
« Reply #65 on: January 04, 2018, 12:05:19 PM »
Medusa m47 multicaliber revolver. Shoots 25 different calibers in the 380 9mm 357 range. Made in the 90s by Philips and Rodgers  only 500 made. Based of SW k frame.
No moon clips  just a really interesting cylinder design. Unfortunately they are pretty spend and all used.

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Re: New pistol advice
« Reply #66 on: January 04, 2018, 04:10:04 PM »
Is the 9mm enough?....oh yes, it is. One of the biggest messes I have ever seen was created with a .25acp. There are endless variables that can make one cartridge better than another for any given reason. Bottom line is, once someone is shot, they feel significantly less good than before they were shot, regardless of the cartridge. 
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Re: New pistol advice
« Reply #67 on: January 04, 2018, 04:20:35 PM »
It's a great time to be in the market for a compact carry gun. The big manufacturers all have nice options at reasonable prices. I'd just avoid cheap offerings from companies you've never heard of.

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Re: New pistol advice
« Reply #68 on: January 04, 2018, 05:37:54 PM »
Is the 9mm enough?....oh yes, it is. One of the biggest messes I have ever seen was created with a .25acp. There are endless variables that can make one cartridge better than another for any given reason. Bottom line is, once someone is shot, they feel significantly less good than before they were shot, regardless of the cartridge.
The 30 round magazine in the keltec 22 magnum pistol is pretty fun to shoot too.that pistol weighs almost nothing empty. I've shot one quite a bit and haven't seen a misfired or jam. Pretty big pistol for cow though

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Re: New pistol advice
« Reply #69 on: January 04, 2018, 05:56:42 PM »
Don't know where you're located, but I like WGS guns in Lakewood. Staff seems to know what they are doing. Surplus ammo and arms in Tacoma has a good staff but they seem a bit pricey to me.

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Re: New pistol advice
« Reply #70 on: January 04, 2018, 07:33:07 PM »
Is the 9mm enough?....oh yes, it is. One of the biggest messes I have ever seen was created with a .25acp. There are endless variables that can make one cartridge better than another for any given reason. Bottom line is, once someone is shot, they feel significantly less good than before they were shot, regardless of the cartridge.
The 30 round magazine in the keltec 22 magnum pistol is pretty fun to shoot too.that pistol weighs almost nothing empty. I've shot one quite a bit and haven't seen a misfired or jam. Pretty big pistol for cow though

I don’t think it would make any difference to the cow :chuckle:. I know someone who has been around horses all there life and they use nothing but a snub 38 special.

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Re: New pistol advice
« Reply #71 on: January 04, 2018, 07:54:25 PM »
Is the 9mm enough?....oh yes, it is. One of the biggest messes I have ever seen was created with a .25acp. There are endless variables that can make one cartridge better than another for any given reason. Bottom line is, once someone is shot, they feel significantly less good than before they were shot, regardless of the cartridge.
The 30 round magazine in the keltec 22 magnum pistol is pretty fun to shoot too.that pistol weighs almost nothing empty. I've shot one quite a bit and haven't seen a misfired or jam. Pretty big pistol for cow though

I don’t think it would make any difference to the cow :chuckle:. I know someone who has been around horses all there life and they use nothing but a snub 38 special.
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Re: New pistol advice
« Reply #72 on: January 04, 2018, 08:21:11 PM »
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Re: New pistol advice
« Reply #73 on: January 06, 2018, 06:05:41 AM »
Is the 9mm enough?....oh yes, it is. One of the biggest messes I have ever seen was created with a .25acp. There are endless variables that can make one cartridge better than another for any given reason. Bottom line is, once someone is shot, they feel significantly less good than before they were shot, regardless of the cartridge.
The 30 round magazine in the keltec 22 magnum pistol is pretty fun to shoot too.that pistol weighs almost nothing empty. I've shot one quite a bit and haven't seen a misfired or jam. Pretty big pistol for cow though

I don’t think it would make any difference to the cow :chuckle:. I know someone who has been around horses all there life and they use nothing but a snub 38 special.
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Re: New pistol advice
« Reply #74 on: January 07, 2018, 07:53:13 PM »
Started carrying a sr 9 c about 3 yrs ago. Really like it easy to conceal and comfortable and fun to shoot. My colt 45 was pretty heavy to carry. That's why I switched to the 9mm.
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