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Re: Overabundance of elk
« Reply #1 on: January 04, 2018, 02:34:38 PM »
Seems more like an issue of crowding on winter range and associated annoyance to ranchers and motorists, rather than region-wide overabundance...

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Re: Overabundance of elk
« Reply #2 on: January 04, 2018, 03:00:20 PM »
Seems more like an issue of crowding on winter range and associated annoyance to ranchers and motorists, rather than region-wide overabundance...
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Re: Overabundance of elk
« Reply #3 on: January 04, 2018, 03:35:45 PM »
Seems more like an issue of crowding on winter range and associated annoyance to ranchers and motorists, rather than region-wide overabundance...
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Re: Overabundance of elk
« Reply #4 on: January 04, 2018, 04:15:54 PM »
Maybe if they opened up the lower green dots to ATVs and motor bikes, the elk would stay closer to West Bar and off the freeway? Seems like the problem started when they closed access due to wintering elk years ago...guess that could open up a whole new can of worms though.
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Re: Overabundance of elk
« Reply #5 on: January 04, 2018, 04:20:47 PM »
I can't wait to see the harvest numbers from this year to show how over-abundant our elk herds are.  :rolleyes:
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Re: Overabundance of elk
« Reply #6 on: January 04, 2018, 05:08:35 PM »
What a joke.  :chuckle:
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Re: Overabundance of elk
« Reply #7 on: January 04, 2018, 05:12:52 PM »
Does anyone know if 6500 is an accurate number?  That seems a bit high.
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Re: Overabundance of elk
« Reply #8 on: January 04, 2018, 06:15:30 PM »
Idiot propaganda.  Private land owners cut off access to hunters and then complain when the ungulates destroy their property. :'( :'( :'(

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Re: Overabundance of elk
« Reply #9 on: January 04, 2018, 06:15:53 PM »
I can't wait to see the harvest numbers from this year to show how over-abundant our elk herds are.  :rolleyes:

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Re: Overabundance of elk
« Reply #10 on: January 04, 2018, 06:16:50 PM »
According to WDFW there was about 5K when they counted in March of 2016.

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Re: Overabundance of elk
« Reply #11 on: January 04, 2018, 06:21:24 PM »
According to WDFW there was about 5K when they counted in March of 2016.

So it went up 1500 in one year, I highly doubt it.
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Re: Overabundance of elk
« Reply #12 on: January 04, 2018, 06:33:53 PM »
 When I first started hunting W. Montana you could hardly hunt a draw in the mountains without bumping elk and you rarely saw them in the flats where the private property was. Now those same draws are virtually void of elk and the flats are overrun with them. They were forced down by the burgeoning wolf population. I wonder if this could be happening here.
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Re: Overabundance of elk
« Reply #13 on: January 04, 2018, 07:49:17 PM »
I can't wait to see the harvest numbers from this year to show how over-abundant our elk herds are.  :rolleyes:

So they are proposing to go draw only for archery cow elk this year but they have too many  elk? Does WDFW bios have any idea how to manage game herds?

I know that the big and extremely noisy wind generators were constructed and placed  in the wintering grounds of elk and deer around Ellensburg by the global warming politicians

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Re: Overabundance of elk
« Reply #14 on: January 04, 2018, 08:56:59 PM »
I can't wait to see the harvest numbers from this year to show how over-abundant our elk herds are.  :rolleyes:


On that note, I am really looking forward to the 2017 harvest data.  I have a feeling many areas were down by significant amounts.
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Re: Overabundance of elk
« Reply #15 on: January 04, 2018, 08:57:28 PM »
There will be significant harvest under the damage program because of the legislative mandate.

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Re: Overabundance of elk
« Reply #16 on: January 05, 2018, 11:10:05 AM »
When I first started hunting W. Montana you could hardly hunt a draw in the mountains without bumping elk and you rarely saw them in the flats where the private property was. Now those same draws are virtually void of elk and the flats are overrun with them. They were forced down by the burgeoning wolf population. I wonder if this could be happening here.



I have seen this in Montana and even more so in Idaho-Funny thing is people that hunt next to town always say the wolves are not a problem I see elk all the time! They just don't know they all got pushed down there from the wolves ha ha kind of funny but not really

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Re: Overabundance of elk
« Reply #17 on: January 05, 2018, 07:50:36 PM »
When I first started hunting W. Montana you could hardly hunt a draw in the mountains without bumping elk and you rarely saw them in the flats where the private property was. Now those same draws are virtually void of elk and the flats are overrun with them. They were forced down by the burgeoning wolf population. I wonder if this could be happening here.
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I have seen this in Montana and even more so in Idaho-Funny thing is people that hunt next to town always say the wolves are not a problem I see elk all the time! They just don't know they all got pushed down there from the wolves ha ha kind of funny but not really

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Re: Overabundance of elk
« Reply #18 on: January 05, 2018, 08:22:13 PM »
I know of a wolf consultant that got $425000 to help figure out the wolf problem, Why not waste another $425,000 on her, instead of extending the season and increasing the OTC tags there..? That's just too easy and simple and cost effective.  :bash:
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Re: Overabundance of elk
« Reply #19 on: January 05, 2018, 09:33:05 PM »
According to the most recent numbers put out at the last GMAC meeting the Colockum herd numbers are more like 4300 animals. The elk are pushed to I-90 and beyond by people using the area between the current winter road closure and the freeway, the current winter closure still leaves a lot of area open for winter use.

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Re: Overabundance of elk
« Reply #20 on: January 06, 2018, 06:41:44 AM »
Wwwhhheewww !!! ,,,, I think I just opened the cavern door in a unused part of my mind , now that you guys figgered all this out , can you pleases tell me where all these critters will be around September 12th , and try to be close to a opened parking space please. Anyways , gotta go look at a map , cryder out !
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Re: Overabundance of elk
« Reply #21 on: January 06, 2018, 09:33:25 AM »
Ask the old timers! The ones who know what to do with the situation. This is Elk winter range and habitat. If you want to keep the Elk off the freeway and from going over to the Yakima Training Center you are going to have to build an Elk fence. Period! Or put in an Elk feeding station somewhere up in the Quilomene to keep them up there. >:(  Use some of the Sportsman's money out of the general fund or DOL. Get rid of that wolf expert the WDFW are paying for and wasting money on. This stuff isn't rocket science and people need to get to work and do something!

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Re: Overabundance of elk
« Reply #22 on: January 06, 2018, 09:46:32 AM »
Idiot propaganda.  Private land owners cut off access to hunters and then complain when the ungulates destroy their property. :'( :'( :'(

EXACTLY!!!!!  National Forests aren't good habitat anymore and now the state will let the farmers harvest them as "damage control" while the rest of us hunters chase the few left in the forests.

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Re: Overabundance of elk
« Reply #23 on: January 06, 2018, 09:49:31 AM »
I can't wait to see the harvest numbers from this year to show how over-abundant our elk herds are.  :rolleyes:

Better yet the winter kill numbers
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Re: Overabundance of elk
« Reply #24 on: January 07, 2018, 07:30:34 AM »
If there is such an over abundance why did the WDFW cut the rifle cow tags by 90% last year? Seams like they just left more cows to winter on the farmers fields.

 

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