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Question new muzzleloader, won't fire
« on: January 06, 2018, 09:37:54 PM »
So I just bought a Knight vision muzzleloader back in Oct. Just got to shooting it today. When I fire nothing happens, take out the musket cap, same thing. I eventually got 1 to fire. My buddy uses the bighorn an same powder an caps an his fires but did notice the caps in mine the firing pin punches a hole. They are Western legals and have us both confused, I'm new too muzzleloading so I'm seeking some advise.
Cci musket caps, triple 7 pellets,  federal trophy copper BOR lok is what I'm using.
« Last Edit: January 06, 2018, 09:46:39 PM by Instinct »

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Re: Question new muzzleloader, won't fire
« Reply #1 on: January 06, 2018, 09:51:46 PM »
I would read the owners manual. Could be something really simple
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Re: Question new muzzleloader, won't fire
« Reply #2 on: January 06, 2018, 09:55:40 PM »
kind of sounds like the nipple might not be square.  Did it get dry fired much?  Does it have a lip forming around the area where it is cutting the hole in the caps?

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Re: Question new muzzleloader, won't fire
« Reply #3 on: January 06, 2018, 10:10:22 PM »
I read the manual and didn't say anything.

I fired it 3 times then the 4th went off 2 more times nothing. Lip, I can't say didn't look at the caps close enough just noticed a hole where the pin hits. Looking at the sample test fire primer looks to be off centered.

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Re: Question new muzzleloader, won't fire
« Reply #4 on: January 06, 2018, 10:24:06 PM »
Check the box and make sure it's the western model.  Kinda sounds like you may have ended up with the Full Plastic Jacket.  The nipple looks similar to a musket nipple, and  regarding the hole in the musket cap I think the western model has a flat receiver to strike the musket cap.  I'm not certain, and knight's web site is useless, but maybe.  :dunno: 
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Re: Question new muzzleloader, won't fire
« Reply #5 on: January 06, 2018, 10:44:18 PM »
It's Western no full plastic jacket. Everything is exposed.

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Re: Question new muzzleloader, won't fire
« Reply #6 on: January 06, 2018, 11:52:28 PM »
Pellets are a problem for musket caps IMO, try some 777 loose FFF or FFFF and report back, also be sure you clean all the holes in the nipple !!
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Re: Question new muzzleloader, won't fire
« Reply #7 on: January 07, 2018, 12:39:13 AM »
Ok I'll try some loose next time. Thank you all.

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Re: Question new muzzleloader, won't fire
« Reply #8 on: January 07, 2018, 07:57:46 AM »
Make sure cap is firmly on nipple

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Re: Question new muzzleloader, won't fire
« Reply #9 on: January 07, 2018, 09:35:29 AM »
Send some pics of the breech area

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Re: Question new muzzleloader, won't fire
« Reply #10 on: January 07, 2018, 09:42:20 AM »
I know for a fact they had some issues with that brand new. A Buddy had the same problem with his. Contact knight. It is probably a bolt/firing pin issue. They will get you squared away. I highly recommend knight to everyone who asks what to buy. Felt pretty crappy when you recommend them and there’s issues like these brand new from the factory.
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Re: Question new muzzleloader, won't fire
« Reply #11 on: January 07, 2018, 10:26:32 AM »
PM sent.

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Re: Question new muzzleloader, won't fire
« Reply #12 on: January 07, 2018, 10:42:42 AM »
Are you gettingbyour caps all the way on the nipple? Is the nipple threaded in all the way ? Take the nipple out and clean it, make sure the breech is clear with super hot water , dry and start over, make sure the nipple is threaded in allbthe wsy , maybe switch to cci caps, it's all I have ever used and they always work..
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Re: Question new muzzleloader, won't fire
« Reply #13 on: January 07, 2018, 10:58:01 AM »
Is the cap going off?  If not changing propellant isn't going to help. 

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Re: Question new muzzleloader, won't fire
« Reply #14 on: January 07, 2018, 11:31:07 AM »
 :yeah:  Give Knight a call. They had some issues a couple years ago with their Ultra-Lights not popping the cap, sent mine in and they sent me a new bolt.
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