collapse

Author Topic: FEDERAL COURT RULES FOR RANCHERS, AGAINST FOREST SERVICE IN PROPERTY RIGHTS CASE  (Read 561 times)


Offline timberfaller

  • Off-Topics
  • Trade Count: (0)
  • Sourdough
  • *
  • Join Date: Mar 2014
  • Posts: 1560
  • Location: East Wenatchee
"the U.S. Forest Service put the family through decades of endless bureaucracy and litigation.”

The Sierra Club taught the Feds and others very well!!

Its what happens when "agency's" hire the "best and the brightest" and don't check their "backgrounds"!!
The only good tree, is a stump!

Offline csaaphill

  • Anti Hunters are weird animals.
  • Off-Topics
  • Trade Count: (0)
  • Old Salt
  • *
  • Join Date: Oct 2010
  • Posts: 8445
  • Hunting is non-negotiable it's what I do!
  • Groups: G.O.A., Rocky Mountain ELk Foundation
FEDERAL COURT RULES FOR RANCHERS, AGAINST FOREST SERVICE IN PROPERTY RIGHTS CASE


https://www.heartland.org/news-opinion/news/federal-court-rules-for-ranchers-against-forest-service-in-property-rights-casehttps://www.heartland.org/news-opinion/news/federal-court-rules-for-ranchers-against-forest-service-in-property-rights-case
Same as the Bundy's then but for these people they won. Why as in what Ryan had stated in his opening statement why put up signs saying no more moo by 92 if they're not up to something.?
Same as this case why fence off where they know fully well ranchers will need that to water their cattle.?
"When my bow falls, so shall the world. When me heart ceases to pump blood to my body, it will all come crashing down. As a hunter, we are bound by duty, nay, bound by our very soul to this world. When a hunter dies we feel it, we sense it, and the world trembles with sorrow. When I die, so shall the world, from the shock of loosing such a great part of ones soul." Ezekiel, Okeanos Hunter

Offline Special T

  • Truth the new Hate Speech.
  • Washington For Wildlife
  • Trade Count: (+11)
  • Explorer
  • *
  • Join Date: Aug 2009
  • Posts: 18369
  • Location: Skagit Valley
  • Wake me when you need me.
    • Silver Arrow Bowmen
FEDERAL COURT RULES FOR RANCHERS, AGAINST FOREST SERVICE IN PROPERTY RIGHTS CASE


https://www.heartland.org/news-opinion/news/federal-court-rules-for-ranchers-against-forest-service-in-property-rights-casehttps://www.heartland.org/news-opinion/news/federal-court-rules-for-ranchers-against-forest-service-in-property-rights-case
This is the kind of lawsuit the Bundies should have been up against.  I won't make a determination that the Bundies water/grazing rights were broken, but that wasn't what the lawsuit was about.

Sent from my SAMSUNG-SM-G930A using Tapatalk

The Truth is like Poetry, and most people hate Poetry

Offline csaaphill

  • Anti Hunters are weird animals.
  • Off-Topics
  • Trade Count: (0)
  • Old Salt
  • *
  • Join Date: Oct 2010
  • Posts: 8445
  • Hunting is non-negotiable it's what I do!
  • Groups: G.O.A., Rocky Mountain ELk Foundation
locked the other one  :bdid:
but here
What is this about? The court orders. They say my father had an opportunity in the courts. The court wouldn’t consider states rights. They have forgotten they are servants of the people
This is the correct meaning to we the people not the other one! >:(
"When my bow falls, so shall the world. When me heart ceases to pump blood to my body, it will all come crashing down. As a hunter, we are bound by duty, nay, bound by our very soul to this world. When a hunter dies we feel it, we sense it, and the world trembles with sorrow. When I die, so shall the world, from the shock of loosing such a great part of ones soul." Ezekiel, Okeanos Hunter

Offline Humptulips

  • Global Moderator
  • Trade Count: (+2)
  • Frontiersman
  • *****
  • Join Date: May 2010
  • Posts: 4291
  • Location: Humptulips
    • Washington State Trappers Association
  • Groups: WSTA, NTA, FTA, OTA, WWC, WFW, NRA
It is worth noting that the ranchers who filed this lawsuit died before this ruling came out in their favor. Also worth noting even though the Court ruled they had water rights they still did not get any compensation for losing the water all the years the suit went through the courts.  What did they get?

“both parties should undertake a renewed effort to ascertain whether alternative water sources can be made available to SGA to allow this family enterprise to continue in the cattle business on a viable basis.”

So now they are supposed to negotiate I suppose. Doesn't sound like they won much.
Bruce Vandervort

Offline NW SURVEYOR

  • Trade Count: (0)
  • Scout
  • ****
  • Join Date: Oct 2016
  • Posts: 301
  • Location: ENUMCLAW
  • Groups: RMEF NRA
It should be noted that the use of the water predated Statehood and as such rights could be established.
If no rights had ripened before Statehood, they could not come to fruition afterwards.

The Bundy case is completely different.
The Feds owned the land well prior to the arrival of the Bundy clan.
No "Rights" could be established by Bundy which makes his claim invalid.

My two cents.
Rob.

 

* Recent Topics

Business Trip Turkey Bonanza by Timberstalker
[Today at 06:44:54 AM]


2018 Special Permits: Drawing Results by Timberstalker
[Today at 06:36:49 AM]


Lion attack in North bend? by Elkaholic daWg
[Today at 06:15:09 AM]


bad day in Neah bay by MADMAX
[Today at 06:11:56 AM]


FS: Mathews DXT by adamR
[Today at 05:59:57 AM]


FS: Bear Done Deal by adamR
[Today at 05:59:20 AM]


Forges by carpsniperg2
[Today at 12:32:07 AM]


Western Washington odds/evens? by Muleycrazy01
[Yesterday at 11:36:15 PM]


WTS canoe by couesbitten
[Yesterday at 11:18:19 PM]


Muzzleloader Sight Inquiry - by lokidog
[Yesterday at 11:16:42 PM]


PSA: you should be using a meat thermometer by lokidog
[Yesterday at 11:14:37 PM]


Moose units by jackelope
[Yesterday at 10:54:05 PM]


Dead cougar! by Special T
[Yesterday at 10:48:00 PM]


out of the points game by Jimmy33
[Yesterday at 10:07:37 PM]


guided fishing trips eastside by asmith
[Yesterday at 09:56:11 PM]


Late Pearrygin mule deer 2017 by hambone
[Yesterday at 09:55:58 PM]


early over late moose hunts ? by wheels
[Yesterday at 09:55:43 PM]


Our families ID bear season by Timberstalker
[Yesterday at 09:37:12 PM]


After years away from the forum, ADAMS is back. :) by KFhunter
[Yesterday at 09:27:00 PM]


FS Remington 700 XCR 7MM mag by Ridge Hunter
[Yesterday at 08:39:01 PM]