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Re: WYOMING’S LICENSE FEE CHANGES FOR 2018
« Reply #25 on: January 11, 2018, 11:31:46 AM »
There's elks in Idaho? Where? Specifically.

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Re: WYOMING’S LICENSE FEE CHANGES FOR 2018
« Reply #26 on: January 11, 2018, 11:47:31 AM »
To answer your question: Because nothing beats knowing your hunting area in detail. I’ve hunted the Montana/Idaho border for 30+ years and outfitted there for 13. Knowing the seasonal movements of the elk in an area is priceless too. That’s why they say that 10% of hunters kill 90% of the elk. The same goes for my Wyoming spits. They are home. You only live once but you can’t hunt them all! Oh and I have family and friends in both MT and WY too. And.... since I know they have me by the family jewels I started a side business specifically to pay for my elk hunting addiction. Do I like paying those prices though? He11 no!
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Re: WYOMING’S LICENSE FEE CHANGES FOR 2018
« Reply #27 on: January 17, 2018, 09:08:46 PM »
I cant believe that I am saying this, but I don't mind the increase in price.  No!!!!  I'm not rich!  But I am 52 years old.  It is much more important to get the opportunity to hunt as much as I can.  With the increase, tags that take me every other year to draw might now be possible to get every year.  Before Montana raised their costs a few years ago, I could draw a general deer licences every other year or every third year.  Since the increase, I have been able to hunt every year.  At 52, I don't know how many years I got left.  I'm healthy and able now but when I'm 60 or 70, who knows???  Randy Newberg said something that will never leave my mind, "Hunt as much as you can and as often as you can.  Because you will run out of health long before you will run out of money."  Every year I don't draw a tag to hunt is one less year that I will be able to hunt and realistically speaking, I have somewhere around 5-10 years to hunt the way I do now, and 10 more after that but at a much slower speed.
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Re: WYOMING’S LICENSE FEE CHANGES FOR 2018
« Reply #28 on: January 18, 2018, 09:27:38 AM »
Amen Dvolmer. I’m 52 as well and I need tomhunt elk every year. Imagine how bad things would be if elk tags were a hundred bucks!  :yike:
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Re: WYOMING’S LICENSE FEE CHANGES FOR 2018
« Reply #29 on: January 29, 2018, 08:47:10 AM »
Never hunted out of state but would like to some day (soon!). What's the difference between special draw and draw? Do I even need to draw or can I just buy an OTC?

Sorry for the newbish questino.

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Re: WYOMING’S LICENSE FEE CHANGES FOR 2018
« Reply #30 on: January 29, 2018, 09:49:53 AM »
Never hunted out of state but would like to some day (soon!). What's the difference between special draw and draw? Do I even need to draw or can I just buy an OTC?

Sorry for the newbish questino.
Wyoming is the most confusing state to apply for, the special draw puts you in a different catagory. It’s cost more but you have better odds. If you don’t have max points and your trying for a premium tag, bring your patience.  I’m one less than max on elk, this is my 10 or 11th year applying.  General tags may be easier to draw, your best bet is to call them and talk to a bio. 
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Re: WYOMING’S LICENSE FEE CHANGES FOR 2018
« Reply #31 on: January 29, 2018, 09:52:22 AM »
Never hunted out of state but would like to some day (soon!). What's the difference between special draw and draw? Do I even need to draw or can I just buy an OTC?

Sorry for the newbish questino.
Wyoming is the most confusing state to apply for, the special draw puts you in a different catagory. It’s cost more but you have better odds. If you don’t have max points and your trying for a premium tag, bring your patience.  I’m one less than max on elk, this is my 10 or 11th year applying.  General tags may be easier to draw, your best bet is to call them and talk to a bio.
:yeah: I’ll add some more confusion here. I have come across hunts where the special draw actually required more points than the regular draw but that isn’t the norm.
It’s also important to remember that the unit numbers are not the same for all species. Unit 50 for deer is not unit 50 for elk or antelope.

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Re: WYOMING’S LICENSE FEE CHANGES FOR 2018
« Reply #32 on: January 29, 2018, 02:00:09 PM »
The special draw has nothing to do with better draw odds. It’s simply a category with an allotted number of tags that cost more money. The thinking is that less people are willing to pay the higher price so the draw odds are better but that’s not always the case.

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Re: WYOMING’S LICENSE FEE CHANGES FOR 2018
« Reply #33 on: January 29, 2018, 02:42:56 PM »
The special draw has nothing to do with better draw odds. It’s simply a category with an allotted number of tags that cost more money. The thinking is that less people are willing to pay the higher price so the draw odds are better but that’s not always the case.

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Re: WYOMING’S LICENSE FEE CHANGES FOR 2018
« Reply #34 on: January 29, 2018, 03:23:08 PM »
Never hunted out of state but would like to some day (soon!). What's the difference between special draw and draw? Do I even need to draw or can I just buy an OTC?

Sorry for the newbish questino.

This is one heck of a place to start.

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Re: WYOMING’S LICENSE FEE CHANGES FOR 2018
« Reply #35 on: January 29, 2018, 03:38:56 PM »
Another article to help, and paying more for the special license is designed to give you better odds, it’s in this article.


https://www.gohunt.com/read/INSIDER/application-strategy-2016-wyoming-elk
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Re: WYOMING’S LICENSE FEE CHANGES FOR 2018
« Reply #36 on: January 30, 2018, 10:30:40 AM »
Yes, "designed" to give you better odds, but if too many people pay up and put in "special" then the odds will be worse.

It looks like this.

Non residents can get 16% of the tags for a unit.
40% of those tags go into the "Special Draw". Of those 75% go to the highest point holders, 25% go random.
60% of the tags go into the "Regular draw". Of those 75% go to the highest point holders, 25% go random.

So say a unit has 50 total tags allotted.

8 tags can go to Non-residents.
3 tags go in the "Special draw. 2 for points, 1 for random.
5 Tags go in the "Regular draw". 4 for points, 1 for random.

That's all you can really tell prior to the actual draw happening. Prior to that, all you can do is look at the last few years draw trends to forecast what you think might happen. The new years draw odds are completely dependent on that applications received for that year.

Toprut is my favorite site for looking at the draw stats. They break it down and graph it out nicely. Make it easy to see the point creep trend as well as show you the possibilities, or lack of, for drawing a unit on random. You can get a feel for how many tags are available and how many folks put in.

Other sites are better for hunt info research.

Unit 62 type 1 for example:
https://www.toprut.com/hunt/wyoming-elk-unit-62/



 






 

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