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Senate Bill 5444, sponsored by Senator David Frockt (D-46) would impose a registration-licensing system on commonly owned semi-automatic firearms (Rifles AND PISTOLS) and standard-capacity ammunition magazines that bill proponents label as “assault weapons” and “large-capacity magazines” (LCM).  Every person who possesses, transports, manufactures, purchases or sells a so-called “assault weapon” or LCM must have an annual state-issued license, with an updated license required every time there is a change in possession of the gun or magazine. The licensing requirement has a delay period (until 2020) before it applies to persons who currently possess such items, but these persons would be prohibited from selling or transferring any gun or magazine designated by this bill to anyone other than a licensed dealer, a gunsmith, or to law enforcement for permanent relinquishment.  SB 5444 also mandates that relinquished guns and magazines “must be destroyed.”

Senate Bill 5463, sponsored by Senator Guy Palumbo (D-1), is vaguely written legislation that would require individuals to lock up firearms or potentially face Class C Felony charges. This intrusive government legislation invades people’s homes and forces them to render their firearms useless in a self-defense situation by locking them up.

Senate Bill 5992, sponsored by Senator Kevin Van De Wege (D-24) mirrors federal legislation proposed by anti-gun California U.S. Senator Dianne Feinstein (D-CA).  This bill would make it a crime to knowingly possess a firearm accessory or any other device, part or combination of parts that is designed or functions to accelerate the rate of fire of a semi-automatic firearm.  The broad and overreaching provisions in SB 5992 could potentially criminalize firearm modifications such as competition triggers, muzzle brakes, and ergonomic changes that are commonly done by law-abiding gun owners to make their firearms more suitable for self-defense, competition, hunting, or even overcoming disability.

Senate Bill 6049, sponsored by Senator Frockt, is yet another bill targeting so-called “Large Capacity Magazines” and would prohibit the possession of ammunition magazines holding ten or more rounds, with limited exceptions.  Those allowed to continue possession of “Large Capacity Magazines” within the limited exceptions would be required to lock up their ammunition magazine or face criminal charges.

Senate Bill 6146, sponsored by Senator Rebecca Saldaña (D-37), would abolish Washington’s decades old state firearm preemption statute.  The state preemption statute, which passed in 1983, helps keep firearm and ammunition laws consistent throughout Washington by establishing that the State Legislature has full authority to regulate and create laws pertaining to firearms and ammunition.  These statutes help prevent a confusing patchwork of gun control laws which make it difficult for gun owners to ensure that they are following the law.  Further, Second Amendment rights are guaranteed to all citizens, regardless of where they reside.  State preemption statutes help protect against the infringement of rights of citizens who live in localities controlled by anti-gun elected officials.
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Re: Heads up, Incoming BAD legislation, rattle the cages POLITELY in Olympia
« Reply #1 on: January 10, 2018, 04:25:03 PM »
Thanks woodswalker for the concise heads up on these! :tup:
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Re: Heads up, Incoming BAD legislation, rattle the cages POLITELY in Olympia
« Reply #2 on: January 10, 2018, 04:34:37 PM »
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Re: Heads up, Incoming BAD legislation, rattle the cages POLITELY in Olympia
« Reply #3 on: January 10, 2018, 04:51:29 PM »
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Re: Heads up, Incoming BAD legislation, rattle the cages POLITELY in Olympia
« Reply #5 on: January 11, 2018, 03:25:03 PM »
Call, write, politely implore your legislators to NOT DO THIS.

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Re: Heads up, Incoming BAD legislation, rattle the cages POLITELY in Olympia
« Reply #6 on: January 11, 2018, 07:16:07 PM »
where's the one that mandates storage of all firearms or become a class c felon? that's the scary one and the one most should be against.
Whether or not people should is mute it's forcing people to do something or become a felon that's the issue.
and what with the 4th amendment being so watered down you can't count on that protection anymore.
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Re: Heads up, Incoming BAD legislation, rattle the cages POLITELY in Olympia
« Reply #7 on: January 11, 2018, 07:33:50 PM »
where's the one that mandates storage of all firearms or become a class c felon? that's the scary one and the one most should be against.
Whether or not people should is mute it's forcing people to do something or become a felon that's the issue.
and what with the 4th amendment being so watered down you can't count on that protection anymore.

Looks like it's the 2nd one he listed.  Bill 5463

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Re: Heads up, Incoming BAD legislation, rattle the cages POLITELY in Olympia
« Reply #8 on: January 11, 2018, 07:41:16 PM »
where's the one that mandates storage of all firearms or become a class c felon? that's the scary one and the one most should be against.
Whether or not people should is mute it's forcing people to do something or become a felon that's the issue.
and what with the 4th amendment being so watered down you can't count on that protection anymore.

Looks like it's the 2nd one he listed.  Bill 5463
Not highlighted so missed it.
still I think that's the most scariest one there.
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Re: Heads up, Incoming BAD legislation, rattle the cages POLITELY in Olympia
« Reply #9 on: January 12, 2018, 09:33:37 PM »
Article I, section 7 of the Washington Constitution provides that “No person shall be disturbed in his private affairs, or his home invaded, without authority of law.” ... The second right to privacy granted by Washington's Constitution is the right to personal autonomy.

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Re: Heads up, Incoming BAD legislation, rattle the cages POLITELY in Olympia
« Reply #10 on: January 12, 2018, 09:54:35 PM »
The politicians do not need to be rattled politely in matters you dislike. Go at them full force. They work for the people, not the other way around.
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Re: Heads up, Incoming BAD legislation, rattle the cages POLITELY in Olympia
« Reply #11 on: January 15, 2018, 08:02:00 AM »
If these bills succeed to the governor to sign into law is the state second amendment Foundation or NRA going to file injunction and lawsuits against governor and/or AG?

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Re: Heads up, Incoming BAD legislation, rattle the cages POLITELY in Olympia
« Reply #12 on: January 15, 2018, 09:27:38 AM »
The politicians do not need to be rattled politely in matters you dislike. Go at them full force. They work for the people, not the other way around.





Exactly. No need to be polite

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« Reply #13 on: January 15, 2018, 02:21:38 PM »
The politicians do not need to be rattled politely in matters you dislike. Go at them full force. They work for the people, not the other way around.





Exactly. No need to be polite




Being polite has ruined this country....It needs to be turned around, NOW ! The Obama admin has screwed this country big time, as has Inslee in Washingtonfornia.
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Re: Heads up, Incoming BAD legislation, rattle the cages POLITELY in Olympia
« Reply #14 on: January 16, 2018, 03:58:56 PM »
There might not be enough support for the 5 bills after all.




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State Sen. Dean Takko (D-Longview) said Monday that he’s not inclined to vote for five different proposed gun control bills, potentially dooming their chances of passage in the closely divided Senate.

The bills call for a range of changes, including banning high-capacity magazines and the sale of “bump stocks” — a trigger-modification device used in the deadly Oct. 1 Las Vegas shooting.

With Democrats clinging to a one-vote majority in the Senate, Takko’s vote could be decisive on any gun control legislation.

Nearly 1,000 people flooded into the State Capitol building Monday to attend a Senate Law and Justice Committee hearing on the proposed measures, including National Rifle Association members and a Washington couple who survived last year’s Vegas shooting.

Takko said he’s also been inundated with calls from 19th District residents urging him to vote against the bills.

“I also have to represent the district, and I can tell you I’m getting far more calls from constituents telling me vote no rather than vote yes,” he said Monday in a phone interview. “There’s a lot of people in the district that have guns and love to hunt and shoot,” he said. “It’s a big issue.”

Takko said he’s not intimately familiar with all five bills but would probably need to see changes before supporting them.

“I’d have a hard time on most of them because I don’t really think they’re going to do much” to stop gun violence, he said Monday in an interview.

Senate Bill 5992 — the bump stock bill — has received the most attention so far, but Takko said the bill’s language is too broad for his liking.

The bill defines trigger modification devices as “any part or combination of parts designed or intended to accelerate the rate of fire of a firearm.”

(Bump stocks are devices that use the recoil of a semi-automatic firearm to fire shots in rapid succession, effectively turning semi-automatics into machine guns.)

The bill would prohibit selling, possessing or repairing “any trigger modification devices” starting July 1, 2019.

“You can pull in a lot of modifications that have nothing to do with the bump stock issue,” Takko said of the bill. “I’m willing to look at it, and if someone can come up with some better language, I could most likely go there,” he added.

But 19th District Rep. Brian Blake (D-Aberdeen) — a longtime National Rifle Association member — said that while a bump stock bill may have a chance in the Senate, he’s unlikely to support a bump stock ban in the House. Democrats control a narrow two-vote majority in the lower chamber.

“I just don’t believe it will be effective,” Blake said in an interview. “I think a seventh grader could make a bump stock in an afternoon if they had access to a shop.”

Blake said he thinks it’s even less likely for the rest of the proposed gun control bills to pass.

“I don’t think there will be the votes for the other bills,” he said.

However, both Southwest Washington Democrats have signaled they are open to less restrictive gun legislation.

Takko said he believes legislators should be focusing on the mental health aspect of gun control. He’s signed onto a bill sponsored by freshman state Sen. Manka Dhingra (D-Redmond), a former King County prosecutor, that would make it easier for courts to bar criminal defendants with a history of violence from possessing firearms.

Takko also has a bill that would make concealed weapons permits exempt from public records, saying he wants to prevent gun owners from becoming targets of thieves.

Blake sponsored a bill signed into law last year that requires firearm dealers to notify the Washington State Patrol when a person who previously failed a state or federal background check tries to purchase a gun.

“Those are the kind of bills that I have an interest in,” he said.

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Re: Heads up, Incoming BAD legislation, rattle the cages POLITELY in Olympia
« Reply #15 on: January 16, 2018, 04:04:19 PM »
I know we harp on many Democrates on this site... There are a handful that hail from more rural blue collar areas that can be purswaded and strong armed. If you live in one of those districts your call and letter are more important than  most others. 2c

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Re: Heads up, Incoming BAD legislation, rattle the cages POLITELY in Olympia
« Reply #16 on: January 17, 2018, 02:36:13 PM »
https://www.google.com/amp/www.spokesman.com/stories/2018/jan/16/bump-stock-ban-passes-committee/%3famp-content=amp

Appears the bump stock ban made it through the committee. Just some more time and they will start banning other accessories to firearms

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Re: Heads up, Incoming BAD legislation, rattle the cages POLITELY in Olympia
« Reply #17 on: January 18, 2018, 05:45:23 PM »
The politicians do not need to be rattled politely in matters you dislike. Go at them full force. They work for the people, not the other way around.





Exactly. No need to be polite

Come on folks, of course there is a need to be polite.  Do you really think you are changing minds by blasting someone?  Do you think such a tactic might actually be used for justification to call us "gun nuts".  Well, yeah, if you act like a nut, don't be surprised when you are treated like one.
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Re: Heads up, Incoming BAD legislation, rattle the cages POLITELY in Olympia
« Reply #18 on: January 18, 2018, 06:43:06 PM »
Take some time and e-mail your State Senator. Paste the attached address in your browser and let them know how you feel.
 http://leg.wa.gov/Senate/Senators/Pages/default.aspx

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Re: Heads up, Incoming BAD legislation, rattle the cages POLITELY in Olympia
« Reply #19 on: January 18, 2018, 07:17:26 PM »
The politicians do not need to be rattled politely in matters you dislike. Go at them full force. They work for the people, not the other way around.





Exactly. No need to be polite

Come on folks, of course there is a need to be polite.  Do you really think you are changing minds by blasting someone?  Do you think such a tactic might actually be used for justification to call us "gun nuts".  Well, yeah, if you act like a nut, don't be surprised when you are treated like one.
I concur that you need to be polite. You will just get tuned out if you don't. I think this translates for most things in life. I understand being passionate to make your case but a verbal confrontation will jus accomplish the opposite.

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Re: Heads up, Incoming BAD legislation, rattle the cages POLITELY in Olympia
« Reply #20 on: January 18, 2018, 07:21:47 PM »
The politicians do not need to be rattled politely in matters you dislike. Go at them full force. They work for the people, not the other way around.







Exactly. No need to be polite

Come on folks, of course there is a need to be polite.  Do you really think you are changing minds by blasting someone?  Do you think such a tactic might actually be used for justification to call us "gun nuts".  Well, yeah, if you act like a nut, don't be surprised when you are treated like one.



Ah, you don't need to be an owner of a gun to see the typical democrats way to handle anything. Let's make more anti-gun laws. They never have a solution to fix a problem, at least I've never seen one.
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Re: Heads up, Incoming BAD legislation, rattle the cages POLITELY in Olympia
« Reply #21 on: January 21, 2018, 07:22:39 PM »
Representitive Blake will be able to stop these if the Republicans will all vote no.

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« Reply #22 on: January 21, 2018, 09:21:37 PM »
Representitive Blake will be able to stop these if the Republicans will all vote no.
What location/district is Blake in?

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Re: Heads up, Incoming BAD legislation, rattle the cages POLITELY in Olympia
« Reply #23 on: January 23, 2018, 05:57:22 AM »
When do they vote on this?
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« Reply #24 on: January 23, 2018, 08:51:58 AM »
WA Anti-Gunners Whine: Gun Owners Are Contacting Lawmakers

As the annual Shooting, Hunting and Outdoor Trade (SHOT) Show opened Tuesday in Las Vegas, where tens of thousands of firearms industry professionals are gathering — including many from Washington State — the Seattle-based gun prohibition lobby has a complaint.

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Re: Heads up, Incoming BAD legislation, rattle the cages POLITELY in Olympia
« Reply #26 on: January 25, 2018, 07:43:17 PM »
I tried to watch it. But it makes me too bad. I can only hope my money going to NRA and 2A can stop them.
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Re: Heads up, Incoming BAD legislation, rattle the cages POLITELY in Olympia
« Reply #27 on: January 26, 2018, 05:24:19 AM »
They can ban bumpstocks but I can do the same thing without a bumpstock, are they going to ban my finger next  :dunno:

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Re: Heads up, Incoming BAD legislation, rattle the cages POLITELY in Olympia
« Reply #28 on: January 26, 2018, 05:39:08 AM »
It's a tough situation and I think it's going to get worse after they win a few. The pendulum swings both ways, but with the extreme liberalism in the population centers of this state I think it's going to swing farther left, perhaps much farther. Only when a majority becomes dissatisfied will the pendulum swing the other way!  :yike:
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Re: Heads up, Incoming BAD legislation, rattle the cages POLITELY in Olympia
« Reply #29 on: January 26, 2018, 05:59:24 AM »
It always amazes me that cars kill more people than guns, yet guns are protected by the second amendment, and we make cars that way exceed the speed limit :dunno:
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[Yesterday at 11:27:23 PM]


338 375 ruger build by b23
[Yesterday at 11:17:29 PM]


Loctite by Calvin Rayborn
[Yesterday at 11:00:14 PM]


WDFW News Release by huntnphool
[Yesterday at 10:57:43 PM]


RIB-EYE THATS WHATS FOR DINNER. by bracer40
[Yesterday at 10:26:50 PM]


WARNING: Uncle Mike's nylon holsters are TRASH!!! by Calvin Rayborn
[Yesterday at 10:26:22 PM]


Wolves tree DNR worker in Okanogan county by bracer40
[Yesterday at 10:24:05 PM]


Dog Crate by Happy Gilmore
[Yesterday at 10:20:36 PM]


Looking for an Arima by Encore 280
[Yesterday at 10:07:22 PM]


WTS: Plano Trunk by getreal711
[Yesterday at 10:01:46 PM]


Anyone hunting Blue Grouse with a Pointer? by bobcat
[Yesterday at 09:52:15 PM]


2018 County Challenge! I'm closing in... by lokidog
[Yesterday at 09:39:39 PM]


Wild boar in Iraq? by metlhead
[Yesterday at 09:37:15 PM]


bighorn conversion question by Browndown
[Yesterday at 09:36:40 PM]


S&W SD9 VE thoughts and/or experiences? by lokidog
[Yesterday at 09:31:52 PM]