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Controversy over Record PA Buck
« on: January 26, 2018, 09:08:21 AM »
The buck smashed PAs archery Typical record, are other hunters just jealous or do they have a point? The buck is a true giant, not sure how I feel about it.

http://www.wpxi.com/news/top-stories/battle-over-record-setting-deer-bagged-in-westmoreland-co/689489070
I felt like a one legged cat trying to bury a terd on a frozen pond!

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Re: Controversy over Record PA Buck
« Reply #1 on: January 26, 2018, 09:24:35 AM »
Assuming you in fact believe he killed it - then he killed it.

He did not kill it "well" which gets minus points.

He did keep looking and eventually recover the animal which gets plus points for perseverance.

In the end not much to be proud of IMHO.

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Re: Controversy over Record PA Buck
« Reply #2 on: January 26, 2018, 09:29:08 AM »
Would have been a whole different story if he recovered the buck with in a couple days...even a week.
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Re: Controversy over Record PA Buck
« Reply #3 on: January 26, 2018, 10:11:07 AM »
WHo cares, congrats to hunter regardless. :twocents:
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Re: Controversy over Record PA Buck
« Reply #4 on: January 26, 2018, 10:19:37 AM »
Did he tell anyone when he says he shot it? If not, I'd be inclined to say he found a dead deer with a nice rack.  :dunno:
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Re: Controversy over Record PA Buck
« Reply #5 on: January 26, 2018, 10:34:06 AM »
WHo cares, congrats to hunter regardless. :twocents:
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Re: Controversy over Record PA Buck
« Reply #6 on: January 26, 2018, 11:55:02 AM »
Sounds like a lot of green over there.

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Re: Controversy over Record PA Buck
« Reply #7 on: January 26, 2018, 11:58:48 AM »
Sounds like a bunch of jealous bums. 

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Re: Controversy over Record PA Buck
« Reply #8 on: January 26, 2018, 12:16:16 PM »
I must be missing some information here. He found a rotting buck in the woods and cut off the antlers. Who's to say that he actually shot it? Tell me what I'm missing. And don't get all huffy about it either. It's not like I'm blasting your friend on social media. :chuckle:
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Re: Controversy over Record PA Buck
« Reply #9 on: January 26, 2018, 12:24:40 PM »
Honest WDFW Officer, I shot this trophy over a month ago and just found his remains. Would that fly in Washington?

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Re: Controversy over Record PA Buck
« Reply #10 on: January 26, 2018, 12:30:05 PM »
There is always a reason every new record must have been illegal! I say leave the guy alone unless F&G finds something he did wrong.
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Re: Controversy over Record PA Buck
« Reply #11 on: January 26, 2018, 12:38:09 PM »
I am not bashing at all. It is truly a trophy. My understanding is that it is illegal to remove skulls or sheds not naturally dropped in our state. My question was if this would fly in Washington after that period of time.

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Re: Controversy over Record PA Buck
« Reply #12 on: January 26, 2018, 12:42:01 PM »
Sounds like a bunch of jealous bums. 


 :yeah:He said he shot the deer with a bow and tracked the blood trail but lost it. He obviously would remember what the buck looked like since its a giant. Good on him for keeping up the search and finally recovering it. Wouldn't it still be a record if it was a dead head anyways? Washington is the only state I know of where you cant pick up antlers from a dead deer. The guy got a huge buck good for him why are the other guys even wasting time and energy on it? Jealousy   

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Re: Controversy over Record PA Buck
« Reply #13 on: January 26, 2018, 12:48:17 PM »
Sounds like a bunch of jealous bums. 


 :yeah:He said he shot the deer with a bow and tracked the blood trail but lost it. He obviously would remember what the buck looked like since its a giant. Good on him for keeping up the search and finally recovering it. Wouldn't it still be a record if it was a dead head anyways? Washington is the only state I know of where you cant pick up antlers from a dead deer. The guy got a huge buck good for him why are the other guys even wasting time and energy on it? Jealousy   

Utah too, and there is probably others.
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Re: Controversy over Record PA Buck
« Reply #14 on: January 26, 2018, 12:54:19 PM »
I just read somewhere that the new #2 Boone and Crockett bighorn sheep was one that was found dead in Montana. What's the difference between it and a dead deer?
Is it that the guy is saying he killed it and trying to take all the glory for it?
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Re: Controversy over Record PA Buck
« Reply #15 on: January 26, 2018, 12:58:13 PM »
I just read somewhere that the new #2 Boone and Crockett bighorn sheep was one that was found dead in Montana. What's the difference between it and a dead deer?
Is it that the guy is saying he killed it and trying to take all the glory for it?

Montana allows dead heads to be picked up, sheep you have to get sealed the way I understand it. If PA is a state that doesn't allow dead heads to be picked up that might be the reason for all the concern.
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Re: Controversy over Record PA Buck
« Reply #16 on: January 26, 2018, 01:04:45 PM »
Sounds like a bunch of jealous bums. 


 :yeah:He said he shot the deer with a bow and tracked the blood trail but lost it. He obviously would remember what the buck looked like since its a giant. Good on him for keeping up the search and finally recovering it. Wouldn't it still be a record if it was a dead head anyways? Washington is the only state I know of where you cant pick up antlers from a dead deer. The guy got a huge buck good for him why are the other guys even wasting time and energy on it? Jealousy   

Utah too, and there is probably others.
New Mexico as well.   They will let you keep them, but you need to have it approved by an agent before taking possession.

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Re: Controversy over Record PA Buck
« Reply #17 on: January 26, 2018, 01:05:40 PM »
I just read somewhere that the new #2 Boone and Crockett bighorn sheep was one that was found dead in Montana. What's the difference between it and a dead deer?
Is it that the guy is saying he killed it and trying to take all the glory for it?

I thought the controversy was he was claiming it as an archery kill.

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Re: Controversy over Record PA Buck
« Reply #18 on: January 26, 2018, 01:09:42 PM »
? I see heads that have been on someone's wall for years brought to the gun shows to be scored... maybe even generations ago taken..  :dunno:

different from some moneybags paying 10K to hunt game like this on private land?

things are so questionable now days what really matters? The head is the head, biggest in PA still stands, regardless of situation.. great find!
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Re: Controversy over Record PA Buck
« Reply #19 on: January 26, 2018, 01:10:07 PM »
“A representative of the Game Commission said Shaulis did nothing illegal.”

:dunno: maybe I am missing the reason for all the complaining?


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Re: Controversy over Record PA Buck
« Reply #20 on: January 26, 2018, 01:26:19 PM »
There are a lot of hunters who have been in this situation before.  Tough conditions for tracking, little or no blood, and no friends to help tack, but you are confident you made a good shot and keep looking. Sometimes it works out and you find it, sometimes you find it after the meat is spoiled.  Still doesn't mean you didn't kill it.  That dork with the glasses on obviously hasn't been around much, wounded animals can go a hell of a long way even with a lethal shot.  It looked like a very brushy area in the video, a deer going 1000 yds and leaving no blood trail can be impossible to find.

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Re: Controversy over Record PA Buck
« Reply #21 on: January 26, 2018, 04:09:23 PM »
 :yeah: I agree. In the right terrain a hundred yards can take along time to comb.

Congratz to the hunter. While it may be difficult to say with 100 hundred percent certainty that it died from the wound inflicted by the arrow,  based on body decomposition,  and the fact it was in the area it certainly doesnt seem far fetched in any way.  It seems like he truly kept hunting only this buck. He didn't waste a deer. I am sure he wishes it was a cleaner kill, but I can applaude the effort.

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Re: Controversy over Record PA Buck
« Reply #22 on: January 26, 2018, 07:50:09 PM »
Heck, I found one of my bucks a year later 1/2 mile from where I shot it. What's the big deal. If he is lying he's the one who will carry that burden...That will wear him down...I hope he did kill it. Awesome buck.

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Re: Controversy over Record PA Buck
« Reply #23 on: January 26, 2018, 10:03:27 PM »
Another funny thread.
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Re: Controversy over Record PA Buck
« Reply #24 on: January 26, 2018, 10:15:03 PM »
There is always a reason every new record must have been illegal! I say leave the guy alone unless F&G finds something he did wrong.
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