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Offline doubletall

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Odd looking mule deer
« on: January 26, 2018, 08:44:31 PM »
Spotted this in the Methow today


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Re: Odd looking mule deer
« Reply #1 on: January 26, 2018, 08:45:16 PM »
Thatís a piebald. Awesome capture.
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Re: Odd looking mule deer
« Reply #2 on: January 26, 2018, 09:04:08 PM »
Nice find. :tup:

Iíve seen blacktail like that, but not Mulies.
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Re: Odd looking mule deer
« Reply #3 on: January 27, 2018, 01:32:11 PM »
Wow, thanks

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Re: Odd looking mule deer
« Reply #4 on: January 28, 2018, 12:23:24 AM »
Awesome :tup:
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Re: Odd looking mule deer
« Reply #5 on: January 28, 2018, 08:37:03 AM »
It surprises me that more people on this site are not aware of this.

https://wdfw.wa.gov/help/questions/160/What+is+the+status+of+hair+loss+syndrome+in+deer%3F

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Re: Odd looking mule deer
« Reply #6 on: January 28, 2018, 08:49:46 AM »
It surprises me that more people on this site are not aware of this.

https://wdfw.wa.gov/help/questions/160/What+is+the+status+of+hair+loss+syndrome+in+deer%3F

It's not hair loss syndrome it's piebaldness which is a genetic trait of albinism. Or deer are turning into chameleons, you notice how the bottom half is matching it's environment 😁

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Re: Odd looking mule deer
« Reply #7 on: January 28, 2018, 09:02:00 AM »
It would be nice to see more genetics in washington great pic.
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Re: Odd looking mule deer
« Reply #8 on: January 28, 2018, 09:07:23 AM »
I spotted one that looked like it had tiger strips up at the end of the Chiwawa River one year I was looking for "overlooked pockets" that no one hunted.

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Re: Odd looking mule deer
« Reply #9 on: January 28, 2018, 09:39:25 AM »
Evolutuion of the Deer kind...I give you Snow Camo
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Re: Odd looking mule deer
« Reply #10 on: January 28, 2018, 08:27:19 PM »
Theres a piebald blacktail doe in Orting that has had piebald fawns the last two years. Its pretty cool to see all three of them together!

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Re: Odd looking mule deer
« Reply #11 on: January 29, 2018, 07:23:09 PM »
They sure look cool but the coloration is a sign of a genetic defect, and many have physical deformities as well. Not something we really want to see more of.

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Re: Odd looking mule deer
« Reply #12 on: January 29, 2018, 09:30:39 PM »
Sweet pic
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Re: Odd looking mule deer
« Reply #13 on: January 29, 2018, 10:32:55 PM »
They sure look cool but the coloration is a sign of a genetic defect, and many have physical deformities as well. Not something we really want to see more of.

Probably canít tell from the picture but the legs are a lot shorter than normal.


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Re: Odd looking mule deer
« Reply #14 on: January 30, 2018, 09:50:25 AM »
They usually have an overbite and are considered genetically inferior.  The ones I've seen don't seem to live real long.  Always fairly young ones (up to 3 years old) and the spots seem to change over time.
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Re: Odd looking mule deer
« Reply #15 on: January 30, 2018, 09:58:24 AM »
When I was growing up, there were a lot of piebald blacktails in the Humptulips area. Been a while since I heard of anybody seeing one.
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Re: Odd looking mule deer
« Reply #16 on: January 30, 2018, 10:35:07 AM »
Unless it's a true albino, they are fine.  It's just like a person having a large pigmented patch of skin. 

I've seen whitetail's live a long time with this type of coloring.  It does not mean the deer is genetically compromised in any other way. 

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Re: Odd looking mule deer
« Reply #17 on: January 30, 2018, 11:05:11 AM »
Camp Orkila on Orcas island has a bunch of local piebald deer that never leave the area.

Every year they get one or two more fawns, if they hit the open field it's a pretty cool sight to see so many in one spot.

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Re: Odd looking mule deer
« Reply #18 on: January 30, 2018, 11:20:06 AM »
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Unless it's a true albino, they are fine.
   :dunno:

I'm no expert and could be wrong, just the research I've done on them told me different.  Hope you're correct!  :tup:
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Re: Odd looking mule deer
« Reply #19 on: January 30, 2018, 11:33:57 AM »
Camp Orkila on Orcas island has a bunch of local piebald deer that never leave the area.

Every year they get one or two more fawns, if they hit the open field it's a pretty cool sight to see so many in one spot.

Iíve seen them up on Orcas as well on the road between Eastsound and Moran State Park. They definitely look a bit off. I first saw one when I was on a Game of Thrones bender and was pretty certain I was seeing something from the army of white walkers.

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Re: Odd looking mule deer
« Reply #20 on: January 31, 2018, 02:00:30 PM »
Used to be a bunch cruising a certain part of the Methow, in fact some were pure albino, if I remember right there was about 20 of them. Really neat to see, I remember as a kid my dad taking me up to look at them during hunting season, I couldn't figure out why we weren't shooting them :chuckle: cause there was a couple real nice bucks in there! A few years later someone did shoot one and was practically ran out of town :chuckle:

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Re: Odd looking mule deer
« Reply #21 on: January 31, 2018, 02:05:55 PM »
Ive never seen any piebald there. Interesting.     I think its cool. 

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Re: Odd looking mule deer
« Reply #22 on: January 31, 2018, 02:22:37 PM »
Camp Orkila on Orcas island has a bunch of local piebald deer that never leave the area.

Every year they get one or two more fawns, if they hit the open field it's a pretty cool sight to see so many in one spot.

Iíve seen them up on Orcas as well on the road between Eastsound and Moran State Park. They definitely look a bit off. I first saw one when I was on a Game of Thrones bender and was pretty certain I was seeing something from the army of white walkers.

To be fair, all Island deer are a bit off looking.   :chuckle:

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Re: Odd looking mule deer
« Reply #23 on: January 31, 2018, 02:33:03 PM »
Ive never seen any piebald there. Interesting.     I think its cool.

For us bone it was late 50,s-early 60,s. After "64" we didn't see them anymore, although we seen one piebald fawn around 66ish in the same area with a doe, haven't seen anything like them since. I wonder if there life expectancy is lower and maybe they die off younger :dunno:...Mother Nature :dunno:....As far as I remember, the talk was a lot of that bunch were poached, I remember my dad saying there were folks that killed them for the hides. Maybe it wasn't Mother Nature :dunno:...Pretty neat more are showing up :tup:
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Re: Odd looking mule deer
« Reply #24 on: January 31, 2018, 03:15:50 PM »
Nice picture! Never seen a mule deer piebald. Saw a few Piebald Whitetails in PA over the years...
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Re: Odd looking mule deer
« Reply #25 on: February 01, 2018, 01:53:44 PM »
Ive never seen any piebald there. Interesting.     I think its cool.

Considering the time you spend in the field with a camera I guess that's saying something about how rare they are.

 

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