No coyotes with dogs...

[furbearer365]

Read the hunting regulations the other day now that they are in the stores.  New rule for this year, NO HUNTING COYOTES WITH DOGS.  I am 50/50 on this one.  The reason i am for it is because their are a lot of illegal hound hunters out their and believe me, i have run across a few while out in the woods, and when i ask them what they would be hunting with hounds in Washington, it never fails i always get COYOTES.  Now their excuse is over.  But on the other hand, although i dont hunt with dogs, I now of guys in Oregon that use them when they set up to call and use them as decoy dogs and it works great.  So i quess to me the change doesn't mean much, but was wanting everyone elses thoughts.

[Curly]

I think the change sucks.  I don't have time to expand anymore right now, but the new rule blows.

[gasman]

This suject has been covered over the last few months.I feel most of us are upset on how the rule cam to be. It was not from a biological study or danger of the public or dog, but because it does not meet the "status quoe", and "looks bad in the eyes of the general public".

To hell with the status quoe,

[deaddog]

Read the hunting regulations the other day now that they are in the stores.  New rule for this year, NO HUNTING COYOTES WITH DOGS.  I am 50/50 on this one.  The reason i am for it is because their are a lot of illegal hound hunters out their and believe me, i have run across a few while out in the woods, and when i ask them what they would be hunting with hounds in Washington, it never fails i always get COYOTES.  Now their excuse is over.  But on the other hand, although i dont hunt with dogs, I now of guys in Oregon that use them when they set up to call and use them as decoy dogs and it works great.  So i quess to me the change doesn't mean much, but was wanting everyone elses thoughts.

Did you see them doing something wrong or is it an assumption, could it be that they were hunting yotes? And ya the new rule sucks, just like our game dept.

[Houndhunter]

most the hound guys i know are family and we dont run yotes (intentionally ), but i know one guy who does. there main excuse was its inhumane to hunt canines with canines, to bad though another type of hunting that wont return

[rasbo]

well alot has been taken from the hound hunters,this is just another kick in the nuts..Bears,cougs..just coons left I believe,how long will that last..one piece at a time

[billythekidrock]

Here is what was said at the April meeting.
"This is also something we are trying to bring in front of the commission as a Social issue that is….we would prefer to have it .. uh dealt with here in the commission process rather then the legislative process."
Mick Cope, Upland Game Section Manager

Note: Not a single question was asked about this by the comission members.

Sounds to me like political and anti pressure caused them to make this decision. Obviously it was not a biological decision.

It is really too bad with the advances in decoying for coyotes. I think this could be a great tool in some urban areas for coyote control.

[stumprat]

One more nail in the coffin! All that is left are coonhunters, and beagles.

[Idabooner]

Guess I can forget that plan. I was going to train my dog to lay quietly by my side while I was calling so he could watch my back for a sneaky cat coming in behind me.

[jdb]

I know some people use gray hounds. and litterly run them down

[billythekidrock]

Guess I can forget that plan. I was going to train my dog to lay quietly by my side while I was calling so he could watch my back for a sneaky cat coming in behind me.

Unfortunately it would be against the law...as it may be for the upland bird hunter who tries to whack one as an incidental.

[runamuk]

I know some people use gray hounds. and litterly run them down

Several breeds of sight hound were created to course wolves....irish wolfhound and bozoi are two of the breeds most well known.  In russia they still hunt wolves with borzoi there are a few videos out there if you do some searching.  All the sight hounds are meant to course game be it deer, jackrabbits, gazelles etc..... its in their gene's and you cannot stop them.... I would love to open field course jacks some day with a sight hound.  Having had a borzoi who hated coyotes I know they are effective...

it is really sad to see hunting methods disappear due to HSUS/peta agenda's.... they are winning the war by dividing all of us and then whittling away our rights taking one here and one there.....  we have to stop arguing amongst ourselves and just say NO...no more hunting restrictions that have nothing to do with actual management.

[Kain]

I know some people use gray hounds. and litterly run them down

Several breeds of sight hound were created to course wolves....irish wolfhound and bozoi are two of the breeds most well known.  In russia they still hunt wolves with borzoi there are a few videos out there if you do some searching.  All the sight hounds are meant to course game be it deer, jackrabbits, gazelles etc..... its in their gene's and you cannot stop them.... I would love to open field course jacks some day with a sight hound.  Having had a borzoi who hated coyotes I know they are effective...

it is really sad to see hunting methods disappear due to HSUS/peta agenda's.... they are winning the war by dividing all of us and then whittling away our rights taking one here and one there.....  we have to stop arguing amongst ourselves and just say NO...no more hunting restrictions that have nothing to do with actual management.

   well said.  But I think we divide ourselves more than they do.

[runamuk]

I know some people use gray hounds. and litterly run them down

Several breeds of sight hound were created to course wolves....irish wolfhound and bozoi are two of the breeds most well known.  In russia they still hunt wolves with borzoi there are a few videos out there if you do some searching.  All the sight hounds are meant to course game be it deer, jackrabbits, gazelles etc..... its in their gene's and you cannot stop them.... I would love to open field course jacks some day with a sight hound.  Having had a borzoi who hated coyotes I know they are effective...

it is really sad to see hunting methods disappear due to HSUS/peta agenda's.... they are winning the war by dividing all of us and then whittling away our rights taking one here and one there.....  we have to stop arguing amongst ourselves and just say NO...no more hunting restrictions that have nothing to do with actual management.

   well said.  But I think we divide ourselves more than they do.

ah but they utilize it to their advantage....and it isn't just hunting, it is dog breeding, farming, ranching, raising kids etc....if it involves animals and their use they have created vocabulary that is divisive. 

The term puppymill was first used by anti's and now damn near anyone who breeds dogs is open for being called a puppymill. 
The organic and natural food movement has been hijacked by the anti's and they are passing laws on animal husbandry that have no place in the rule books. 
And lets not forget our children and things like spanking  being abuse.....same people....same tactics....

divide and conquer

[billythekidrock]

Well said.