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Offline billythekidrock

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Shot placement for black bears.
« on: June 07, 2009, 09:06:32 AM »
Here are some images of shot placement. They were taken from the IBEF pdf file that you can find here. http://www.nbef.org/  
It has a lot of great information for both archery and rifle bear hunters.

Overhead view of shot placement angles.


Composite image I created from the individual ones below.


Individual images from the composite image.

Bear


Muscles


Skeleton


Circulatory System


Organs







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Re: Shot placement for black bears.
« Reply #1 on: June 07, 2009, 09:10:13 AM »
Here is another one.





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Re: Shot placement for black bears.
« Reply #2 on: June 07, 2009, 09:31:56 AM »
This is good info, I actually studied this NBEF stuff really good before I went on my first archery spring bear hunt.
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Re: Shot placement for black bears.
« Reply #3 on: June 07, 2009, 11:45:47 AM »
Great info!

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Re: Shot placement for black bears.
« Reply #4 on: June 07, 2009, 12:09:40 PM »
Thanks good info!
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Re: Shot placement for black bears.
« Reply #5 on: June 07, 2009, 12:43:16 PM »
 :tup:
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Re: Shot placement for black bears.
« Reply #6 on: June 07, 2009, 12:46:57 PM »
Nice




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Re: Shot placement for black bears.
« Reply #7 on: June 07, 2009, 05:41:24 PM »
Awesome Information Thanks

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Re: Shot placement for black bears.
« Reply #8 on: June 07, 2009, 05:47:57 PM »
Thanks Billy I will just need to find one shoo dat.  :chuckle:Mark

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Re: Shot placement for black bears.
« Reply #9 on: June 09, 2009, 10:39:19 AM »
Thanks BTKR!  Best article on this subject I've found to date.  On 6 Jun I logged on to American Hunter.org re: "How To Shoot A Bear".  It was OK but they are in the "bust the shoulder 1st camp".  I'm not a magnum shooter (definately nothing wrong w/that) but get my jollies by close shots w/leverguns in traditional calibers.  I think my best choice is a double lunger.  Now, from these picts, I finally see why waiting until near front leg is fwd makes sense.  Just gotta graduate from cardiac rehab before 1 Aug!!!!! Last bear I got was w/a 450 Marlin which is closer to a short range magnum than a traditional caliber.  Bullet lodged against far shoulder blade & knocked him down but I had to finish him.
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Re: Shot placement for black bears.
« Reply #10 on: June 11, 2009, 12:01:24 AM »
Thanks for the pics and info.  It gives me something to think about,  August 1st aint that fer away :tup:
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Re: Shot placement for black bears.
« Reply #11 on: June 14, 2009, 08:59:52 AM »
Shoulder or Neck for me.....they just don't get up or run after that.

Great Pics guys!
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Re: Shot placement for black bears.
« Reply #12 on: June 17, 2009, 07:45:00 PM »
Sideswipe,

I enjoy shooting lever guns as well. I have a Marlin 1895 Cowboy that a want to shoot a bear with so BAD!!! I hand load it and have a really hot load ready. I like to think I will get one this year. It must be a real rush getting one with a lever gun with open sights!!! I think I'm going to do some scouting around Forks this year. Shot my first bear in the Cascades with a scoped .308 but wanna find a better population away from so many people and kill one cowboy style!!


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Re: Shot placement for black bears.
« Reply #13 on: June 17, 2009, 11:02:59 PM »
Good info. Thanks Billy :)

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Re: Shot placement for black bears.
« Reply #14 on: June 18, 2009, 08:07:39 PM »
Tried for quite a while to copy the picture in this old post from another forum. It is a target picture of a bear's heart and lungs from facing front. Maybe someone else could have better results getting this shot placement guide here?
http://www.marlinowners.com/forums/index.php/topic,30878.0.html

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Re: Shot placement for black bears.
« Reply #15 on: June 18, 2009, 08:12:58 PM »
Tried for quite a while to copy the picture in this old post from another forum. It is a target picture of a bear's heart and lungs from facing front. Maybe someone else could have better results getting this shot placement guide here?
http://www.marlinowners.com/forums/index.php/topic,30878.0.html

This one?





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Re: Shot placement for black bears.
« Reply #16 on: June 18, 2009, 08:19:01 PM »
That would be it. Seems much better than the "Bear Attack" book's crecent shaped necklace picture. Thanks again.

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Re: Shot placement for black bears.
« Reply #17 on: June 18, 2009, 08:20:43 PM »
From that pictures angle, you are already about to be lunch, because you are on your back on the ground, and the bear is giving thanks for food!!!!   :chuckle:

Billy, awesome write up.  Thanks, it will come in handy as soon as I can find a bear after Aug. 1.
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Re: Shot placement for black bears.
« Reply #18 on: July 02, 2009, 04:51:48 PM »
I have to pieces of advice on shooting bear....

1. Try to break a shoulder and get the lungs with your first shot.
2. If the bear starts to get back up shoot him again until he stays down.

Every time I violate those rules it seems I regret it. This spring a guy shot a bear and it went down, it was getting up and moving around some, he was going to shoot again and like an idiot I said "I think he's gonna die." The guy hesitated and the bear got up and made it out of sight in a split second. I found blood in a half dozen places as far as a couple hundred yards away and then as usual it dried up. I still regret that remark. We shot another bear two days later but I do not like anything to get away wounded. Through the years this has happened a few times, if we would have just put another round in them it would have been for the best.
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Re: Shot placement for black bears.
« Reply #19 on: July 02, 2009, 05:03:06 PM »
Always shoot till down and not moving. Better take both lungs or kiss the bear goodbye. Bear can survive on a collapsed lung. I shot a bear years ago that just dropped rolled 10 yards and came to rest againt a tree, motionless for 5 min kept watching nothing. Bear appeared to be dead, started to pack up and make my way over and bear is up going down the hill, dragging a shoulder. Never saw the bear again

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Re: Shot placement for black bears.
« Reply #20 on: July 08, 2009, 02:14:38 PM »
Good info, thank you for sharing.
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Re: Shot placement for black bears.
« Reply #21 on: July 17, 2009, 09:22:12 PM »
Good information there. I'm still looking to shoot my first one.

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Re: Shot placement for black bears.
« Reply #22 on: July 22, 2009, 09:44:46 PM »
great info thanks!
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Re: Shot placement for black bears.
« Reply #23 on: July 25, 2009, 10:28:12 AM »
both bears I've shot have been head shots...right in the side of the head...nice big whole out the other side....dropped and never moved again....about an inch or two below the ear did it both times....they don't tend to go far whenyou blow their brains out...last one was a 225yrd shot...one shot...one kill. :chuckle: :IBCOOL:

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Re: Shot placement for black bears.
« Reply #24 on: August 13, 2009, 02:51:05 PM »
In 98' I was 16 and shot my 2nd bear.  Wasn't the greatest shot placement (back shot) as he was about 220+ yards off.  Head over heels he came down that hill towards us into the deep cover, heard some heavy wheezing and brush crashing as we figured he was on his way out.  I took my friends advice to go up the hill and follow the blood trail down instead of going to where we heard him ... 2 days later after 3 of us had been up there with machettes making trails and trying to recover him we found him, torn apart with only the hide left.  To this day he is the only animal I've put down that I wasn't able to recover and harvest. YUK

 

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