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"...but he didn't get the meat" WOW!
« on: September 26, 2009, 08:38:45 AM »
I was just talking to an "acquaintance" who said:
"My cousin just got a big bull with his bow, he had this huge rack in the back of his truck, he didn't get the meat.."
"He didn't get the meat?", I asked.
Reply,"He was helping somebody else pack meat out"

Ok so it's a shaky, third or fourth hand story but have respect for the animal for Christ sake!
Have you called your district biologist to voice your concerns?
Have you attended a public meeting on season setting?
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Re: "...but he didn't get the meat" WOW!
« Reply #1 on: September 26, 2009, 09:00:37 AM »
Turn him in to the dept of wildlife for wasting of wildlife. Meat first, then head...
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Re: "...but he didn't get the meat" WOW!
« Reply #2 on: September 26, 2009, 09:11:31 AM »
Thats specifically why Alaska has the rule the antlers are LAST LOAD, or you are busted.  They also require ribs in a lot of places and NECK MEAT.   

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Re: "...but he didn't get the meat" WOW!
« Reply #3 on: September 26, 2009, 09:47:19 AM »
 :yeah:


I got my elk this year it was an easy pack to the truck, I dragged the entire elk to the truck. And just to follow tradition of antlers being last. I lifted the Buttocks up first and then put the head in!!!!!!!
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Re: "...but he didn't get the meat" WOW!
« Reply #4 on: September 26, 2009, 10:00:54 AM »
. Meat first, then head...


That is what I have always understood.
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Re: "...but he didn't get the meat" WOW!
« Reply #5 on: September 26, 2009, 10:12:52 AM »
if he left the meat then you need to turn him in, i dont care if hes your cousin or not.

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Re: "...but he didn't get the meat" WOW!
« Reply #6 on: September 26, 2009, 10:14:01 AM »
Yeah I just wanted to vent... odds that he has a legit excuse are slim but you never know. My buddies both packed their spike heads out first before setting up and going in after the quarters... but you don't really shoot a spike for the rack :chuckle:

He's not my cousin.
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Have you attended a public meeting on season setting?
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Re: "...but he didn't get the meat" WOW!
« Reply #7 on: September 26, 2009, 10:17:44 AM »
That is B.S. Grrrrrrrrrrrr this needs to be taken care of by the authorities.
That's specifically why Alaska has the rule the antlers are LAST LOAD, or you are busted.  They also require ribs in a lot of places and NECK MEAT.   
Exactly Bone. I did not want to make two carries with my Dall sheep back many years ago, so I boned it out on the mountain, took all the meat including the neck meat, and the ribs for that day's meal plus the cape, skull etc. I was a load but I did it. Best part of the river crossing. I did not have any problem floating like I did in the morning with a light pack.

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Re: "...but he didn't get the meat" WOW!
« Reply #8 on: September 26, 2009, 10:22:15 AM »
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I did not have any problem floating like I did in the morning with a light pack.

As long as you don't tip over and fall in, that anchor is a real biotch. :chuckle:

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Re: "...but he didn't get the meat" WOW!
« Reply #9 on: September 26, 2009, 11:05:18 AM »
Well I know of a guy who stuck two different bulls in the blues and didn't recover either of them. Then he ended up shooting a real nice 7 x 6. Makes me sick to my stomach when I hear stuff like that. It happens everyday.

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Re: "...but he didn't get the meat" WOW!
« Reply #10 on: September 26, 2009, 06:19:17 PM »
So does Washington have any kind of rule on this?

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Re: "...but he didn't get the meat" WOW!
« Reply #11 on: September 26, 2009, 06:24:35 PM »
Thats specifically why Alaska has the rule the antlers are LAST LOAD, or you are busted.  They also require ribs in a lot of places and NECK MEAT.   
Not only that in a lot of units the meat has to still be attched to the bone on the quarters. Try that with a moose!!
 Too many people waste meat, thats how those laws come about.
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Re: "...but he didn't get the meat" WOW!
« Reply #12 on: September 26, 2009, 06:29:37 PM »
I did.  9.5 miles out to the truck.   I got away without the neck meat because a Kodiak claimed it as ingested it.

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Re: "...but he didn't get the meat" WOW!
« Reply #13 on: September 26, 2009, 06:32:57 PM »
From the Washington State Big Game Hunting Regulations

2. Waste of Wildlife:
You may NOT allow
game animals or game
birds you have taken to
recklessly be wasted.

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Re: "...but he didn't get the meat" WOW!
« Reply #14 on: September 26, 2009, 06:36:59 PM »
I've seen that one, was just wondering if there was anything regarding meat before antlers...

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Re: "...but he didn't get the meat" WOW!
« Reply #15 on: September 26, 2009, 06:39:57 PM »
Nope!
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Re: "...but he didn't get the meat" WOW!
« Reply #16 on: September 26, 2009, 06:44:26 PM »
Thats what I thought....just a bunch of opinions.

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Re: "...but he didn't get the meat" WOW!
« Reply #17 on: September 26, 2009, 06:55:25 PM »
Not opinion....as stated, AK state law.  You'll note every state is different.  Difference between AK and here is that they take their wildlife serious, and they'll nail you for twitchin incorrectly up there.  Very tight run ship.

It eleviates folks from bringing out the bones then jsut not going back for the meat.

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Re: "...but he didn't get the meat" WOW!
« Reply #18 on: September 26, 2009, 07:00:21 PM »
It is all opinion for Washington State, Bone....

I for one packed the bone out first, then walked back in with a mule to pick up the rest.  If weather/spoilage isn't an issue I see nothing wrong with it either... :twocents: 

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Re: "...but he didn't get the meat" WOW!
« Reply #19 on: September 26, 2009, 07:05:21 PM »
Thats what I thought....just a bunch of opinions.



Depends on where you hunt. Some places it's not an opinion, it's the law. Alot of us on this site hunt more places then just WA. It might not be law in WA. but it is for me. Meat before bone.  Meat spoils faster than bone and I would rather have a couple hundred pounds of meat over a rack ;)
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Re: "...but he didn't get the meat" WOW!
« Reply #20 on: September 26, 2009, 07:06:36 PM »
Meet first, then head...

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Re: "...but he didn't get the meat" WOW!
« Reply #21 on: September 26, 2009, 07:08:13 PM »
Meet first, then head...

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Re: "...but he didn't get the meat" WOW!
« Reply #22 on: September 26, 2009, 07:09:52 PM »
OK guy's I have to chime in here.  I'm not trying to start a hornets nest here, but I have been reading stories of members hearing about unlawful hunting/fishing activity from this site.  My intent is not to put anyone down, but I must say that almost every post that reports the illegal activity ends with "i just had to vent, or something similar to that", but nothing seems to get reported! :bash:

The people that are out there doing horrific acts such as this one, will only continue to cause land to be closed off, new laws being enacted(that we all bitch and complain about), roads closures, reduced bag limits, and the list goes on and on.  

Folks WE MUST POLICE OURSELVES otherwise we are not going to have anything to pass on to our kid's, or in my case my Grand Kids, because these people are not getting reported like they should be!  The animals we hunt and fish deserve that respect, period!  They sure as heck can't do it!

In closing I want to reiterate that I am not trying to start a shet storm here, just trying to let everyone know that we need to join together and weed out the bad so we have a strong heritage for future generations.  Happy hunting and fishing everyone and be safe out there!  John



 

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Re: "...but he didn't get the meat" WOW!
« Reply #23 on: September 26, 2009, 07:13:30 PM »
Agreed  :yeah:


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Re: "...but he didn't get the meat" WOW!
« Reply #24 on: September 26, 2009, 07:15:06 PM »
OK guy's I have to chime in here.  I'm not trying to start a hornets nest here, but I have been reading stories of members hearing about unlawful hunting/fishing activity from this site.  My intent is not to put anyone down, but I must say that almost every post that reports the illegal activity ends with "i just had to vent, or something similar to that", but nothing seems to get reported! :bash:

The people that are out there doing horrific acts such as this one, will only continue to cause land to be closed off, new laws being enacted(that we all bitch and complain about), roads closures, reduced bag limits, and the list goes on and on.  

Folks WE MUST POLICE OURSELVES otherwise we are not going to have anything to pass on to our kid's, or in my case my Grand Kids, because these people are not getting reported like they should be!  The animals we hunt and fish deserve that respect, period!  They sure as heck can't do it!

In closing I want to reiterate that I am not trying to start a shet storm here, just trying to let everyone know that we need to join together and weed out the bad so we have a strong heritage for future generations.  Happy hunting and fishing everyone and be safe out there!  John



 

I agree, it they have no intention of taking any meat, then by all means turn em' in.  I can see why laws like this (meat before antlers) are put in place, especially because it'd be hard to "catch" someone not returning for meat although they said they would.  In my case this year, it just so happened that it worked out better for me to do it the opposite way. 

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Re: "...but he didn't get the meat" WOW!
« Reply #25 on: September 26, 2009, 09:35:51 PM »
OK guy's I have to chime in here.  I'm not trying to start a hornets nest here, but I have been reading stories of members hearing about unlawful hunting/fishing activity from this site.  My intent is not to put anyone down, but I must say that almost every post that reports the illegal activity ends with "i just had to vent, or something similar to that", but nothing seems to get reported! :bash:

The people that are out there doing horrific acts such as this one, will only continue to cause land to be closed off, new laws being enacted(that we all bitch and complain about), roads closures, reduced bag limits, and the list goes on and on.  

Folks WE MUST POLICE OURSELVES otherwise we are not going to have anything to pass on to our kid's, or in my case my Grand Kids, because these people are not getting reported like they should be!  The animals we hunt and fish deserve that respect, period!  They sure as heck can't do it!

In closing I want to reiterate that I am not trying to start a shet storm here, just trying to let everyone know that we need to join together and weed out the bad so we have a strong heritage for future generations.  Happy hunting and fishing everyone and be safe out there!  John



 

Ok come over and we'll both walk accross the street to my neighbors house and demand the contact information for his cousin, then drive to his house and demand a full explination of why he was unable to pack the meat of his animal out. I have reported several acts... most recently the showerbags that shot at deer at 830pm and then spotlighted me two nights in a row as I was walking back to my truck through a wheat field.
Have you called your district biologist to voice your concerns?
Have you attended a public meeting on season setting?
You are getting exactly what you deserve from WDFW

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Re: "...but he didn't get the meat" WOW!
« Reply #26 on: September 26, 2009, 10:47:01 PM »
I was just talking to an "acquaintance" who said:
"My cousin just got a big bull with his bow, he had this huge rack in the back of his truck, he didn't get the meat.."
"He didn't get the meat?", I asked.
Reply,"He was helping somebody else pack meat out"

Ok so it's a shaky, third or fourth hand story but have respect for the animal for Christ sake!


Mr Mykiss, what was the point of sharing your story with us? You seem to belittle WCT's suggestion to report the possible big game violation. Do you want us all to just sigh along with you at the waste? The suggestion to report things like this is a good one in my opinion. No one is asking you to do anything more than that. All you have to do is make a call. Let wildlife deal with it.  :dunno:
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Re: "...but he didn't get the meat" WOW!
« Reply #27 on: September 26, 2009, 10:59:01 PM »
. Meat first, then head...


That is what I have always understood.

Me too, what a waste.   >:(
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Re: "...but he didn't get the meat" WOW!
« Reply #28 on: September 26, 2009, 11:58:26 PM »
mr mykiss - why dont you call the fish and wildlife and let them know, then they can go to your neighbors house to do the investigation   :dunno:

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Re: "...but he didn't get the meat" WOW!
« Reply #29 on: September 27, 2009, 07:13:17 AM »
I've done it too Joevon, sometimes bones, a cape and a quarter back to camp to get more meat sacks.  I carry one meat sack with me in my hunting daypack.  One quarter with the horns strapped on and the cape is just about a load in my smaller pack.  Whatever I can to make it a load.

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« Reply #30 on: September 27, 2009, 07:19:56 AM »
Fair enough. I'll keep you posted on the investigation.
Have you called your district biologist to voice your concerns?
Have you attended a public meeting on season setting?
You are getting exactly what you deserve from WDFW

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Re: "...but he didn't get the meat" WOW!
« Reply #31 on: September 27, 2009, 07:22:59 AM »
Good luck!   Thanks for your time working on it.

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Re: "...but he didn't get the meat" WOW!
« Reply #32 on: September 27, 2009, 07:43:57 AM »
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Ok come over and we'll both walk accross the street to my neighbors house and demand the contact information for his cousin, then drive to his house and demand a full explination of why he was unable to pack the meat of his animal out. I have reported several acts... most recently the showerbags that shot at deer at 830pm and then spotlighted me two nights in a row as I was walking back to my truck through a wheat field.

Mr Mykiss, I was hoping you would not take offense to my post, because it was not intended for that.  WDFW makes it so easy for us to report offenses just like this one.  You should not have to go across the street to your neighbors to get the information, let WDFW do that, that is what they are there for.  Thanks for understanding and a bigger thank you for keeping us all posted on the investigation.  Take care, John

 

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