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Re: Elk rifle ????
« Reply #25 on: February 01, 2011, 09:48:58 PM »
925 yards is a very long poke.  I'm not saying they do or don't, but looking at videos of very long shots may not tell the full story....do these videos shoot all the misses and crippled animals?  There are without question shooters that can ethically shoot that far, so let's not start that thread.  They are few and far between, and equipment alone does not make someone capable of shooting that far IMO.
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Re: Elk rifle ????
« Reply #26 on: February 01, 2011, 10:06:07 PM »
I would say to go for the biggest cartridge you can handle and shoot accurately, and are willing to put the practice time into.  Shot placement, bullet construction, and bullet velocity are what need to be considered.  If you can shoot accurately into the kill zone then 90% is already accomplished.  The other two basically determine what max ranges the kill zone can be at.  I'd suggest looking at .338 Lapua, the Lazzeroni line of cartridges, .408 CheyTac, or the .416 Barrett.  If you really want to get out there you could look at the AnzioArms 20mm.  It is heavy though, about 110 lbs and I think the ammo was $20 a pop.

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Re: Elk rifle ????
« Reply #27 on: February 02, 2011, 12:03:26 AM »
Currently I am interested in a few calibers (300WSM/338EDGE/6.5X284/7MMSTW). Opinions?

Since you mention cartridges that are off the beaten track (except .300WSM) let me suggest 7mm Weatherby Magnum.  It's a 'niche' cartridge, but it might fit the bill of what you're looking for.  About 10 years ago I decided to replace my .30-'06 for elk duty.  I wanted something with a longer/flatter reach and more ft-lbs downrange without the recoil of a howitzer.  After a lot of research I chose the 7mm WM and picked up a brand-new Weatherby Mark V Ultralightweight off Gunbroker.com for $930.  After (true) freefloating the barrel and working up a load (Sierra 165gr Gamekings) I was grouping 4.5" at a lased 500 yard distance.  It did a nice job on an Idaho spike bull at 361 yards.  Felt recoil is the same or less than a friend's Winchester 70 .270.  I have since added an identical rifle in .300 Weatherby Magnum, but I can't let the 7mm WM go.  It's just too elegant.  And if anyone says it's no different from the 7mm Remington Mag, they're wrong.  On average, you can safely handload about another 200fps out of the Weatherby.  I'll admit that an animal won't know the difference between the two, but the extra fps helps the Weatherby shoot a little flatter than the Remington.  Just my $0.02 worth.       

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Re: Elk rifle ????
« Reply #28 on: February 02, 2011, 09:14:19 AM »
When you open the old school book on ELK, the 338 Win Mag is on page one.  Page two is the 300 Win Mag.  (Not by much)

Everything else is after those (IMHO), but I'm an old school kind of guy.



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Re: Elk rifle ????
« Reply #29 on: February 02, 2011, 09:31:05 AM »
     I started hunting elk with my .270 back in Montana, it worked fine until one misplaced shot. After tracking and finding that one bull, I swore I was stepping up to heavier bullets. I've shot 300's ever since, and have not had a problem with performance. I started with a 300 Win. Mag, gave it to one son when the short mag came out, bought the 300wsm......absolutely loved it's performance, but not the weight! So I bit the bullet, gave it to my other son,spent some money and bought a 300 RUM from Christensen Arms. IMO you can't go wrong with the 300 platform in one of it's many variables. :twocents:
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Re: Elk rifle ????
« Reply #30 on: February 02, 2011, 09:38:56 AM »
.50 BMG or .338 Lapua
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Re: Elk rifle ????
« Reply #31 on: February 02, 2011, 11:20:18 AM »
300 WSM Browning A-bolt.  Love it!

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Re: Elk rifle ????
« Reply #32 on: February 02, 2011, 11:27:51 AM »
I really like the Browning A bolt myself.

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Re: Elk rifle ????
« Reply #33 on: February 02, 2011, 11:28:53 AM »
300 wsm tikka with leupold VX3-L works great for me  :twocents:
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Re: Elk rifle ????
« Reply #34 on: February 02, 2011, 05:07:09 PM »
How far do they shoot elk?  (I've never seen the show)

And are they shooting standard 7mm Rem Mags? Or STW/Ultra Mags?

standard 7mm mag and take animals consistantly out to 1000yds! 168gr. loads.
If you shoot the first one you will never get that true trophy.

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Re: Elk rifle ????
« Reply #35 on: February 02, 2011, 06:14:55 PM »
Browning left handed 30-06, topped with a leupy 3-9x40, spitting out 165gr hornady interbond light mag/superformance.  That combo is good out to 450-500 yards.
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Re: Elk rifle ????
« Reply #36 on: February 02, 2011, 06:28:23 PM »
If you looking for a 300 I got to put a vote in for the 300 rum. I got the rum and it is a great  long range gun.

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Re: Elk rifle ????
« Reply #37 on: February 03, 2011, 04:17:49 PM »
i agree with Hoyt202. 300 rum is a great gun but remember everytime you shoot it you sending  dang near 4 bucks out the barrel. lol. i shoot the 300 win mag. i shot alot of animals with it great gun. it will reach out there and touch them. the 180 grain cuts the wind like butter. runs about 22 bucks a box of 180 core locks. if you reload you spend about 45 bucks and can make 150 rounds if you have the brass for it. theres my  :twocents:. good luck in buying a rifle.

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Re: Elk rifle ????
« Reply #38 on: February 03, 2011, 04:23:44 PM »
How far do they shoot elk?  (I've never seen the show)

And are they shooting standard 7mm Rem Mags? Or STW/Ultra Mags?

I saw one shot at 900something yards...standard 7 rem mag's. 168 grain Berger's I think.
I can't get on the Berger site here at work due to the lame firewall.
Longrange7mm on here should chime in...he knows that stuff a hell of a lot better than I do.



For the most part, those boys shoot 7mm Rem mags with 168 berger vlds. Giant BC's with that bullet.

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Re: Elk rifle ????
« Reply #39 on: February 03, 2011, 04:43:19 PM »
I have a 7mm remington mag. I love that rifle. Its all about practice...practice....practice :)

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Re: Elk rifle ????
« Reply #40 on: February 03, 2011, 04:49:16 PM »
When you open the old school book on ELK, the 338 Win Mag is on page one.  Page two is the 300 Win Mag.  (Not by much)

Everything else is after those (IMHO), but I'm an old school kind of guy.



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Re: Elk rifle ????
« Reply #41 on: February 03, 2011, 05:31:36 PM »
I'm saving up for a .300 Ultra Mag :)
They aren't cheap but man, they do some damage especially if you need a long range weapon   :twocents:
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Re: Elk rifle ????
« Reply #42 on: February 04, 2011, 07:29:08 PM »
Thanks for all the info. I have looked at the 7mm/7mmstw. I am interested in 1000 yard shooting. When I had my 270 which I sold a while back I shot alot and Played alot out to 1000 yards. To give a idea how much I enjoyed shooting I shot about 2500 rounds through it in about a years time from the date of purchase. I will be looking real hard at my options and reviewing the thread on the 338 edge since I have wante done of these for a while. This would be a fun 1000 yard coyote rifle!!!

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Re: Elk rifle ????
« Reply #43 on: February 04, 2011, 07:46:12 PM »
My "elk rifle" is a Masuer/35 Whelen, but as much timber hunting as I ended up doing last year, I could have just taken my Marlin lever gun in 35 Remington, with the hot Hornady ammo, and I'm sure I would have been plenty well armed.

I'm in the middle of building another Masuer, in 6.5 Swede, and I think that would also be a totally adequate elk rifle.

And who knows how many elk have been taken in the last 100 years with a 30-30?  And a boring old 30-06 should cover almost any reasonable elk hunting scenarios as well.

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Re: Elk rifle ????
« Reply #44 on: February 04, 2011, 07:48:11 PM »
1000 yard elk hunting? really?

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Re: Elk rifle ????
« Reply #45 on: February 04, 2011, 07:54:15 PM »
If you read the original post, he was talking about getting a rifle that would work for both elk hunting, and long range target shooting. (not long range elk shooting)

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Re: Elk rifle ????
« Reply #46 on: February 04, 2011, 08:15:10 PM »
No not 1000 yard elk hunting, just fun 1000 yard shooting. The gun will more than likely be some sort of caliber for this year and then a 338 edge next year just cuz!

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Re: Elk rifle ????
« Reply #47 on: February 04, 2011, 09:25:34 PM »
yes, I went back and re-read it, point taken. I did see the picture that someone posted of an elk shot at 925 yards, though, and I wondered ...

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Re: Elk rifle ????
« Reply #48 on: February 04, 2011, 09:33:51 PM »
300 WSM Browning A-bolt.  Love it!
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Re: Elk rifle ????
« Reply #49 on: February 06, 2011, 02:46:35 PM »
I have a browning a-bolt 300 wsm and a Howa 1500 338. I've killed 2 elk with my 300wsm 1 at 90m and 1 at 423m. I just got my 338 and i love it. I have a 2 inch group at 400m with 210 nosler partitions.
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