Rayonier selling permits to hunt it's land for $225: The Longview Daily News

[rasbo]

Well said rasbo.  I know if I owned land, it would just be me, some family and a few friends.  Other than that...a giant wall with barb wire, lasers, pit bulls, land mines, etc.

sad but it has come to that,hancock still has to run tresspassers off,tearing the place up with quads and horses...

[BLKBEARKLR]

Well said rasbo.  I know if I owned land, it would just be me, some family and a few friends.  Other than that...a giant wall with barb wire, lasers, pit bulls, land mines, etc.

sad but it has come to that,han*censored* still has to run tresspassers off,tearing the place up with quads and horses...

them damn horses making so wreaking so much havoc on the land. Why can't everyone just ride a quad!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[rasbo]

Well said rasbo.  I know if I owned land, it would just be me, some family and a few friends.  Other than that...a giant wall with barb wire, lasers, pit bulls, land mines, etc.

sad but it has come to that,han*censored* still has to run tresspassers off,tearing the place up with quads and horses...

them damn horses making so wreaking so much havoc on the land. Why can't everyone just ride a quad!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

its the trails they go up and cut,then the trails wash out and it really gets to be a mess

[Austrian Hunter]

its private land.....sure lets get the government involved..then if I owned the land there would be zero access...hunt the public land its still there.I save a bunch of money hunting close to home and get my firewood there,how many would let the public access  your property? how many farmers and ranchers let the public come and go as they please...these are farms,and they have many many problems with people that just dont give a crap...

 

[Salmo]

Dude I can not even read sheet like this ... we all know its coming and we still are doing nothen but reading about it ....The fricken government should step in and TAX THE LIVING FRAKEN CRAP OUT OF THEM !!!!!! and for those who have money to spend on this type of hunting are setting the stage for disaster ...and I would never support such bullsheet knowing it is going again my fellow hunters and its now taking the meaning out of what hunting is all about ... So if you go an support these dumba$$$$$$ please do not come bragging to me about it .... THIS IS BS !!!!!

Well said, They can kiss my assszzz.   If hunters allow this as a successful program for Rayonier it will escalate.   I have a feeling their are some higher up employees that have made a push within the company to make this their own private hunting grounds..  Well management "sorta" caved in with this one.   

[bigtex]

I save a bunch of money hunting close to home and get my firewood there

 
I know a lot of people who basically only hunt a Hancock Tree Farm because they have a VERY good chance of bagging all 4 big game animals in the fall, get firewood and have pretty good fishing. They save a ton of money by simply taking a 30 minute drive to the tree farm instead of spending several hundred dollars (these days maybe even a thousand) in gas driving all over the state for the different seasons.

[grundy53]

http://tdn.com/lifestyles/article_551bcd98-a8fd-11e0-9fc9-001cc4c03286.html?mode=story
Rayonier will sell 175 permits to enter its 31,000-acre Fossil Creek area from Aug. 15 through Dec. 31 for a flat $225.

Hmm lets see.
Rayonier access to Fossil Creek for 31,000 acres for 4.5 months = $225
Han*censored* to access its Snoqualmie Tree Farm at 90,000 acres year round (except fire closures) = $225.

I'm sorry but it seems like Rayonier is really ripping off those people buying those permits.

 

[grundy53]

It really sucks but it is their land and they can do what they want with it.

[grundy53]

Why is hancock always censored now?

[asl20bball]

This is only the first wave...they say it is b/c of litering/valdalism but I call BS...this is a way to generate money given a weaker economy. Unfortunately, it is their land and they can do whatever they please. For those that do get access it will be good hunting tho. "Public" land just got more crowded.

[JPhelps]

 

I understand that this is their land, they pay the taxes, and they can charge what they want for access to it.

However they do not own the wildlife.  I wish that WDFW would make some of these areas special draw in response to these changes and see if that changed the timber companies mind.

I don't like where this is going.

[TheHunt]

They censored hancock... As they say a male chicken in your hand is like three in a bush.   LOL

[TheHunt]

So can anyone tell me through a PM about the unit? is there elk in there? How is the fishing?

[fireweed]

Here's the weak spot for "pay to play" scheme on private timberlands: PROPERTY TAX BREAKS.  Timber gets a huge tax break because it provides public benefits.  In Washington law, one of those benefits is "recreational spaces".  Therefore, when timber companies charge, they are essentially double-dipping into the public's wallet, once for a tax break for recreation, and once to charge for recreation.  Think of it this way.  Boeing gets a tax break for building jets here, then moves some of the production overseas, but still wants the full tax break.  Sure, its private property, and they can charge, but WE DO NOT HAVE TO SUBSIDIZE IT!  The system can be changed via the legislature to one more like "open space tax" where each public benefit( including recreational access) is weighted.  Or easier still, one tax rate with free public access, one without.  Counties, state can take the extra and invest in easements to our landlocked public lands.  Call your legislator and stop this before we have to have 20 passes and it we still pay with high property tax rates.

[Curly]

fireweed, the timber companies do not get tax breaks for letting the public use their land.........it is a common misconception.