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20 ga for grouse....
« on: July 18, 2011, 08:38:17 PM »
So I am going to be using a 20 ga. full choke for grouse this year and was wondering what size shot I should be using?.....I saw another post about .410-20 ga and what to use for a modified choke, but what should i be using for full choke.....I was  thinking #7 to a #9 target load should work fine but wanted some more opinions....
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Re: 20 ga for grouse....
« Reply #1 on: July 18, 2011, 08:47:57 PM »
I'd go with 6's but 7 1/2's would be ok too.

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Re: 20 ga for grouse....
« Reply #2 on: July 18, 2011, 08:48:31 PM »
I use copper plated 6's in my O/U and it kills them dead
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Re: 20 ga for grouse....
« Reply #3 on: July 18, 2011, 08:54:08 PM »
I carry a 20ga for grouse all the time and have always shot #6's with a full choke and have never had a problem.

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Re: 20 ga for grouse....
« Reply #4 on: July 18, 2011, 09:26:37 PM »
I've settled on #6 shot for my Franchi O/U with modified choke for the first shot and full for the second. You don't want to go too tight on the choke for a close in shot or you won't have much bird left for the grille. Makes for an interesting "feather cloud" though....

If you are thinking about going for the big blues in the high country, you may even go to a #5 shot. They are some big birds.

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Re: 20 ga for grouse....
« Reply #5 on: July 18, 2011, 09:33:42 PM »
I'd go with 6's but 7 1/2's would be ok too.
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Re: 20 ga for grouse....
« Reply #6 on: July 18, 2011, 09:52:19 PM »
I've settled on #6 shot for my Franchi O/U with modified choke for the first shot and full for the second. You don't want to go too tight on the choke for a close in shot or you won't have much bird left for the grille. Makes for an interesting "feather cloud" though....

If you are thinking about going for the big blues in the high country, you may even go to a #5 shot. They are some big birds.

Save the #9 for quail.

Well, i dont have an option for the choke due to it being a single shot with a full choke and no threads for other options....My other question is most shots that we had last year were at 15ft +/-....I am just hoping that a full choke and #6's wont totally annialate the poor bird...I may just aim high and pray...
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Re: 20 ga for grouse....
« Reply #7 on: July 18, 2011, 09:57:14 PM »
Head shoot them always.
 
#6 shot size.
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Re: 20 ga for grouse....
« Reply #8 on: July 18, 2011, 10:09:15 PM »
Thanks you guys...Very helpful...
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Re: 20 ga for grouse....
« Reply #9 on: July 18, 2011, 10:10:37 PM »
I'd go with 6's but 7 1/2's would be ok too.

 Would have to agree with Bobcat cant go wrong with either of those.

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Re: 20 ga for grouse....
« Reply #10 on: July 18, 2011, 10:14:10 PM »
Has anyone ever tried a sling shot for this? :dunno:
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Re: 20 ga for grouse....
« Reply #11 on: July 18, 2011, 10:25:42 PM »
Has anyone ever tried a sling shot for this? :dunno:

Someone I know has killed them with a slingshot, but the only problem with it, is that it's illegal.

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Re: 20 ga for grouse....
« Reply #12 on: July 18, 2011, 10:35:30 PM »
You think that since it might be way harder to do that it would be a legal method of hunting them. :dunno:
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Re: 20 ga for grouse....
« Reply #13 on: July 18, 2011, 10:40:25 PM »
You think that since it might be way harder to do that it would be a legal method of hunting them. :dunno:

I think there concern is that the shot won't kill them....not all sling shots give enough UUMMPH
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Re: 20 ga for grouse....
« Reply #14 on: July 18, 2011, 10:50:08 PM »
6's and 4's would be my choice.
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Re: 20 ga for grouse....
« Reply #15 on: July 19, 2011, 12:24:52 PM »
Are you talking ruffed grouse or blues?  For ruffed, 7.5 or 6's.  If blues are in the mix then 6's or 5's.
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Re: 20 ga for grouse....
« Reply #16 on: July 19, 2011, 01:01:49 PM »
I've used 5, 6, 71/2 with my 12 gauge. I've gone back and forth with my choke based on what types of experiences I'm having, or what kinda grouse we're after - what the trends are for my outings. Are they usually flushing a good distance away? Or are they scaring the B-JAYSIS  :yike:  outta me because they're holding right until I'm pert near stepping on them? It seems like which ever choke I have in - mod or full - the exact opposite is the one I'll be needing for that day...  :bash:
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Re: 20 ga for grouse....
« Reply #17 on: July 19, 2011, 05:54:01 PM »
Head shoot them always.
 
#6 shot size.

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Re: 20 ga for grouse....
« Reply #18 on: July 30, 2011, 01:06:49 AM »
I shoot a 28 Ga S/S, and have found the Fiochi nickle plated shot to do very good kills. Copper plate is good, but nickle is better.

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Re: 20 ga for grouse....
« Reply #19 on: July 30, 2011, 09:24:56 AM »
The 28 gauge seems like it would be the perfect grouse gun. I may have to get one someday.

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Re: 20 ga for grouse....
« Reply #20 on: July 30, 2011, 01:37:09 PM »
My son hunts them with a H&R/NEF® 28ga  Single Shot Mod choked w/7½ shot. I use a Remington® SPR220 (Baikal® IZH-43) 20ga SxS. I put Imp Cyl & Mod chokes in for grouse and use #6 & 7½ shot. For the big Blue Grouse and Spruce Grouse, chokes are the same but w/#4 & 5 shot.
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Re: 20 ga for grouse....
« Reply #21 on: July 31, 2011, 06:46:22 PM »
The 28 gauge seems like it would be the perfect grouse gun. I may have to get one someday.

Me too! I would love to get one in the future.... 
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Re: 20 ga for grouse....
« Reply #22 on: August 11, 2011, 07:25:55 PM »
6's and 4's would be my choice.

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I have had them lock their wings and glide away with a good hit of #6s from my 20 full choke. they don't seem to do that with a load of 4s in them... must be too heavy to fly with  :tup:

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Re: 20 ga for grouse....
« Reply #23 on: August 14, 2011, 05:11:19 PM »
Grouse are not hard birds to bring down.  a 1 oz load of 6's or 7.5's is plenty, as long as you do your part.  If all I had was a full choke 20, I would give polywad a call and buy a box of spreader loads, to turn your full choke into a modified.  If you do manage to connect at close range with a full choke, that is not a bird I'd want to eat.  Open up that pattern: you'll kill a lot more birds. 

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Re: 20 ga for grouse....
« Reply #24 on: August 29, 2011, 09:22:35 PM »
Grouse are not hard birds to bring down.  a 1 oz load of 6's or 7.5's is plenty, as long as you do your part.  If all I had was a full choke 20, I would give polywad a call and buy a box of spreader loads, to turn your full choke into a modified.  If you do manage to connect at close range with a full choke, that is not a bird I'd want to eat.  Open up that pattern: you'll kill a lot more birds. 

...or don't shoot em close in with that full choke...let em get out a bit before you pull the trigger...

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