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Shot 1 yesterday. Worms in the Thing! couple pics added!
« on: August 18, 2011, 08:15:49 AM »
Shot a small color phased bear yesterday morning at about 6:15 in the am. Everything seemed fine until I gutted it. Started seeing worms that were about 4-6 inches long in the cavity of this bear. I have gutted about a dozen bears and never seen worms before, I have heard of it though. I know there has been a thread on here before about this subject but cant seem to find it. Has anybody seen this before and is the meat still good to eat? O yeah I will be posting pictures as soon as I can. They are not the best pics because I was by myself but will post them asap!
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Re: Shot 1 yesterday. Worms in the Thing!
« Reply #1 on: August 18, 2011, 08:17:16 AM »
We saw a few round worms in our bear last year.  It's pretty common...cook the meat and it will be fine.  Those worms will not be living in muscle/meat.  They're in the digestive tract.

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Re: Shot 1 yesterday. Worms in the Thing!
« Reply #2 on: August 18, 2011, 08:32:16 AM »
They weren't flukes were they?  I've seen those around and in the liver of bears before.
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Re: Shot 1 yesterday. Worms in the Thing!
« Reply #3 on: August 18, 2011, 08:36:29 AM »
Not sure on types of worms? these were long skinny and round. assuming round worms.

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Re: Shot 1 yesterday. Worms in the Thing!
« Reply #4 on: August 18, 2011, 08:47:30 AM »
Check this site http://www.parasitecleanse.com/GALLERY.HTM

See if you can find the worm on here and research it  :twocents:

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Re: Shot 1 yesterday. Worms in the Thing!
« Reply #5 on: August 18, 2011, 08:50:52 AM »
I've had worms in a bear once. We still ate it without any problems. Just be sure to cook the meat all the way through.

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Re: Shot 1 yesterday. Worms in the Thing!
« Reply #6 on: August 18, 2011, 08:52:22 AM »
Sounds like round worms.  Should be fine.  The worms that will give you th emost grief from bear you probably won't see.
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Re: Shot 1 yesterday. Worms in the Thing!
« Reply #7 on: August 18, 2011, 09:05:03 AM »
Not sure on types of worms? these were long skinny and round. assuming round worms.
Were they in the Gut (inside of intestine), or free in the abdominal cavity? Roundworms would be inside the gut lumen.

Oh yea-----congrats on the bear

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Re: Shot 1 yesterday. Worms in the Thing!
« Reply #8 on: August 18, 2011, 10:00:40 AM »
My second shot ended up deflecting and going through the cavity so when I opened it up it was a little messy. couldnt tell if the worms came from the guts or if they were swimming free in the cavity.

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Re: Shot 1 yesterday. Worms in the Thing!
« Reply #9 on: August 18, 2011, 10:08:13 AM »
After looking at the parasite link. Im pretty sure they were roundworms. Had the butcher make german sausage and pepper sticks. You think it will be ok to eat?

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Re: Shot 1 yesterday. Worms in the Thing!
« Reply #10 on: August 18, 2011, 10:13:38 AM »
I remember it was "Machine" last year who posted about the bear he shot that had the worms.  Pretty disgusting....I think this is the thread...

http://hunting-washington.com/smf/index.php/topic,57934.msg713551.html#msg713551

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Re: Shot 1 yesterday. Worms in the Thing!
« Reply #11 on: August 18, 2011, 10:14:12 AM »
i wouldnt worry about it. congrats  by the way on the bear!
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Re: Shot 1 yesterday. Worms in the Thing!
« Reply #12 on: August 18, 2011, 10:15:10 AM »
Years ago I saw a bunch of white worms swimming in a rainwater puddle on a Forest Service road.  I assumed they were waiting for some animal to take a drink so they could get into the digestive tract.  Nasty looking things, but probably harmless.  Considering some of the crap bears eat, it's not surprising they have parasites.
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Re: Shot 1 yesterday. Worms in the Thing!
« Reply #13 on: August 18, 2011, 10:16:20 AM »
Extra protein for you. 
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Re: Shot 1 yesterday. Worms in the Thing!
« Reply #14 on: August 18, 2011, 10:50:50 AM »
Extra protein for you.
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Re: Shot 1 yesterday. Worms in the Thing!
« Reply #15 on: August 18, 2011, 10:51:49 AM »
You think it will be ok to eat?

Yes. The meat will not be contaminated with the roundworms.

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Re: Shot 1 yesterday. Worms in the Thing!
« Reply #16 on: August 18, 2011, 10:54:28 AM »
My buddy had a boar tested (we have all boars tested by law) and the unusual 10-20 inch worms werent a problem  :yike: , but the bird disease that was found in the test was.  The Testing official guessed that a bird with the disease had died and the boar ate it.   :dunno:
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Re: Shot 1 yesterday. Worms in the Thing!
« Reply #17 on: August 18, 2011, 11:17:24 AM »
as long as they aren't in the meat just the guts your fine

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Re: Shot 1 yesterday. Worms in the Thing!
« Reply #18 on: August 18, 2011, 12:06:21 PM »
this is a bad thread to read while eating lunch...

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Re: Shot 1 yesterday. Worms in the Thing!
« Reply #19 on: August 18, 2011, 12:52:12 PM »
as long as they aren't in the meat just the guts your fine

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I would bet that it is probably more common than people think to have round worms in the guts of bear. How many people actually cut open the intestins to see what is crawling around in there. I decided to cut the intestins open on a bear I got 5 years ago because I was thinking of making a traditional style bow string for my longbow and after seeing a footlong nasty roundworm wiggling around I decided I might try to make a string out of something else.  :puke:  A friend of mine got a bear a few years ago that actually had weird worm things and a bunch of nasty sores in the meat.  It was actually a healthy looking bear until the hide came off of it.  :yike:

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Re: Shot 1 yesterday. Worms in the Thing!
« Reply #20 on: August 18, 2011, 01:07:00 PM »

This was an article out of Massachusets, but it gives you some idea whats out there
If these worms were in the GI tract I would eat, If I found some in the muscle I would not.



What kinds of parasites affect the black bear?

Black bears have been reported to host more than 30 external and internal parasites, including coccidian protozoans, flukes, tapeworms, intestinal roundworms, lungworms, filarial worms, lice, fleas, ticks, and mites. Roundworms (Toxascaris sp.) were the most common endoparasite in New York, occurring in 31% of bears sampled. In the Great Smoky Mountains National Park, 90% of bears were infected with the larval form of Dirofilaria ursi, a roundworm related to the dog heartworm. In New York, 46% of bears harbored this parasite.

Trichinellosis, or muscleworm infection, is a parasitic infection of humans (and domestic animals) resulting from the invasion of muscle tissue by the larval stage of the roundworm Trichinella spiralis. Severe muscle pain, fever, edema, localized hemorrhaging, and neurologic problems may result from this disease. Infection results from the consumption of undercooked meat-such as pork-containing encysted larvae. Trichinellosis has also occurred from eating undercooked bear meat. Larval Trichinella were found in 0% of bears sampled in Vermont, 1% in Labrador, 2% in Pennsylvania, 6% in New York, 13% in Idaho, and 22% in Alaska. Although it is commonly believed that bears acquired the parasite from eating garbage, a greater number of infected bears occur in remote areas than those with high human densities. Bears probably acquire the parasite by cannibalizing carcasses of other bears. It has been hypothesized that trichinellosis contributes to antagonistic or erratic behavior in bears. However, there is no conclusive evidence to support this hypothesis.

The protozoan parasite Toxoplasma gondii infects a wide ranges of birds and mammals. This parasite is transmissible to humans and may cause serious or fatal illness in persons with compromised immune systems. Congenital infections may produce birth defects. Wildlife can serve as the intermediate reservoir host for this parasite and cysts can survive for years in muscle tissue. Consumption of infected meat can produce infection in humans. In Pennsylvania, 80% of sampled bears showed antibodies for Toxoplasma. Persons consuming bear meat should cook the meat to an internal temperature of at least 66 C (150 F) for 3 minutes, which is sufficient to kill both Toxoplasma and Trichinella.

There may be individual and regional variation in the susceptibility of black bears to ectoparasites. Ticks were the most common ectoparasite in Idaho. Most bears were lightly infested (<25 ticks). However, in Montana, 100% of 117 bears examined in May and June were infested with ticks (Dermacentor andersoni). Subadult black bears were often in poorer condition than adults and probably more susceptible to parasites. Mange mites (Ursicoptes americanus) were found on 4% of bears sampled in Idaho. Since 1993, about 45 cases of nearly hairless bears (infested with the mite Demodex ursi) have been found on the western edge of Ocala National Forest in Florida.

References: Babbott and Day 1968, Briscoe et al. 1993, Butler and Khan 1992, Forrester et al. 1993, Goad 2003, Jonkel and Cowan 1971, King et al. 1960, Rausch et al. 1956, Rogers and Rogers 1976, Schad et al. 1986, Worley et al. 1983, Yunker et al. 1980


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Re: Shot 1 yesterday. Worms in the Thing!
« Reply #21 on: August 18, 2011, 06:35:44 PM »
The big question is where is the pic of the bear!?

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Re: Shot 1 yesterday. Worms in the Thing!
« Reply #22 on: August 18, 2011, 07:08:22 PM »
yeah this has happened to me once... gutted it and was putting my stuff in my pack . when I turned around and looked at the gut pile it was moving ... so I boned it out and rolled up the hide tied it on my pack and when I got home I called a couple people to see if they wanted it and one said yes ...so I told him about the worms and he could care less so I gave him the meat and the hide ...I was not eaten it after watching the gut pile crawl along the ground ... :yike:

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Re: Shot 1 yesterday. Worms in the Thing!
« Reply #23 on: August 18, 2011, 07:48:11 PM »
Yeah make sure you cook the heck out of it! If it was me I would donate it to some more hungry then myself  :chuckle:
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Re: Shot 1 yesterday. Worms in the Thing!
« Reply #24 on: August 18, 2011, 08:58:14 PM »
Danm makes you wanna not eat bear meat.   :chuckle:  Still gonna kill them just give the meat away.

 

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