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State is talking about making it illegal to burn wood stoves
« on: February 12, 2012, 08:52:01 PM »
Looks like the morons in Olyimpia are talking about no wood stoves.  I was chatting with my rep Zieger and he mentioned it.  Not sure if it will go anywhere but you might want to keep this in the back of your head.
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Re: State is talking about making it illegal to burn wood stoves
« Reply #1 on: February 12, 2012, 08:56:04 PM »
Wouldn't surprise me if they required stove inspections and a stove permit....oh and you can only use state approved wood for burning on state approved days....

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Re: State is talking about making it illegal to burn wood stoves
« Reply #2 on: February 12, 2012, 09:00:13 PM »
If theyre going to do that, they may want to think about making prices cheaper for the alternative sources of heat.

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Re: State is talking about making it illegal to burn wood stoves
« Reply #3 on: February 12, 2012, 09:01:31 PM »
Idiots.  Are they really that stupid? 
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Re: State is talking about making it illegal to burn wood stoves
« Reply #4 on: February 12, 2012, 09:04:09 PM »
So, do they have a plan for keeping my house warm?  We have an old house and have ONLY wood heat.  There is nothing else in this house.  The government can try I suppose, but I really don't see how anyone can force me to change that unless they are willing to pay for it.
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Re: State is talking about making it illegal to burn wood stoves
« Reply #5 on: February 12, 2012, 09:08:15 PM »
I wouldn't put it past the state. If they don't shut down burning entirely they'll find a way to tax it!!!!
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Re: State is talking about making it illegal to burn wood stoves
« Reply #6 on: February 12, 2012, 09:11:28 PM »
Some municipalities in MT have burning bans during the winter when inversions set in.  I believe existing stoves were grandfathered in, you'd have to look up the specifics if you care.
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Re: State is talking about making it illegal to burn wood stoves
« Reply #7 on: February 12, 2012, 09:12:18 PM »
I wouldn't put it past the state. If they don't shut down burning entirely they'll find a way to tax it!!!!

 Ever hear of Carbon credits? We may have to pay to burn. Thats no BS.

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Re: State is talking about making it illegal to burn wood stoves
« Reply #8 on: February 12, 2012, 09:17:31 PM »
Idiots.  Are they really that stupid?

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Re: State is talking about making it illegal to burn wood stoves
« Reply #9 on: February 12, 2012, 09:18:12 PM »
Not saying raising taxes is right, but dollars to doughnuts, this is really what was referenced.
http://blog.thenewstribune.com/politics/2012/01/27/morning-update-day-19-2/

Probably not anything close to "no wood stoves"

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In committee, senators today will consider increasing a state fee on the sale of a wood stove by $15, as requested by the Department of Ecology.

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Re: State is talking about making it illegal to burn wood stoves
« Reply #10 on: February 12, 2012, 09:18:39 PM »
There are the burn bans right now, where you can't burn wood in a fireplace if you have another heat source.  Ludicrous for them to consider this when many people only burn wood or can't afford to heat their home in the winter without supplemental wood heat.
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Re: State is talking about making it illegal to burn wood stoves
« Reply #11 on: February 12, 2012, 09:19:57 PM »
Looks like it's a do over from last year, SB 5432.

   Sponsors:   Senators Regala, Chase, Fraser, Rockefeller, Nelson
    By Request:   Department of Ecology

First part of the bill
Sec. 1. RCW 70.94.473 and 2008 c 40 s 1 are each amended to read
6 as follows:
7 (1) Any person in a residence or commercial establishment which has
8 an adequate source of heat without burning wood shall:
9 (a) Not burn wood in any solid fuel burning device whenever the
10 department has determined under RCW 70.94.715 that any air pollution
11 episode exists in that area;
12 (b) Not burn wood in any solid fuel burning device except those
13 which are either Oregon department of environmental quality phase II or
14 United States environmental protection agency certified or certified by
15 the department under RCW 70.94.457(1) or a pellet stove either
16 certified or issued an exemption by the United States environmental
17 protection agency
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Re: State is talking about making it illegal to burn wood stoves
« Reply #12 on: February 12, 2012, 09:24:03 PM »
Looks like it's a do over from last year, SB 5432.

Bills in the legislature run in two year cycles (2011-12). All bills that were introduced last year can continue to work through the cycle this year. Then next year all bills will be "new."

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Re: State is talking about making it illegal to burn wood stoves
« Reply #13 on: February 12, 2012, 09:28:09 PM »
So this was wrong?
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Looks like the morons in Olympia are talking about no wood stoves.

Imagine that, something somebody heard someone else say, and was repeated on the innernet was wrong.

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Re: State is talking about making it illegal to burn wood stoves
« Reply #14 on: February 12, 2012, 09:29:11 PM »
A little off topic, but man if there ever was a good time for a burn ban it would be right now! Around here people have been burning all the debris from the ice storm a few weeks ago. It's ridiculous. You go outside and you can't breathe the air. It's crazy the number of piles I saw burning today. Why can't these people wait a few months and let the stuff dry out a bit first? I'm guessing a lot of people had to stay in their houses today to avoid breathing in all the smoke.


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Re: State is talking about making it illegal to burn wood stoves
« Reply #15 on: February 12, 2012, 09:30:51 PM »
So from that language it would appear they are tying to phase out older wood stoves that do not make their certification requirements. Essentially taking away the grandfathering in of older stoves. Right now i believe it is hard/impossible to have a wood stove covered on home owners insurance if it is not EPA approved and installed by a pro.  So really this is going after shop stoves, cabins, and older stoves in existing homes... Does that sound about right Tex? Provided Sumpinneedskillin has the right language...
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Re: State is talking about making it illegal to burn wood stoves
« Reply #16 on: February 12, 2012, 09:32:37 PM »
So this was wrong?
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Looks like the morons in Olympia are talking about no wood stoves.

Imagine that, something somebody heard someone else say, and was repeated on the innernet was wrong.

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Re: State is talking about making it illegal to burn wood stoves
« Reply #17 on: February 12, 2012, 10:05:09 PM »
A little off topic, but man if there ever was a good time for a burn ban it would be right now! Around here people have been burning all the debris from the ice storm a few weeks ago. It's ridiculous. You go outside and you can't breathe the air. It's crazy the number of piles I saw burning today. Why can't these people wait a few months and let the stuff dry out a bit first? I'm guessing a lot of people had to stay in their houses today to avoid breathing in all the smoke.


I hear ya, same here. But that being said the burn ban will be on in a couple months and for the weather to be dry enough to keep the serious smoke down would
cause a serious wild land threat. It doesn't take much radiant heat or convection heat to cause a spot fire that will quickly ignite everything around it. People burn this time of year because it is the safest time to do so. I would rather breath a little smoke than have my house endanger of a wild land fire. :twocents:
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Re: State is talking about making it illegal to burn wood stoves
« Reply #18 on: February 12, 2012, 10:16:57 PM »
A little off topic, but man if there ever was a good time for a burn ban it would be right now! Around here people have been burning all the debris from the ice storm a few weeks ago. It's ridiculous. You go outside and you can't breathe the air. It's crazy the number of piles I saw burning today. Why can't these people wait a few months and let the stuff dry out a bit first? I'm guessing a lot of people had to stay in their houses today to avoid breathing in all the smoke.


I hear ya, same here. But that being said the burn ban will be on in a couple months and for the weather to be dry enough to keep the serious smoke down would
cause a serious wild land threat. It doesn't take much radiant heat or convection heat to cause a spot fire that will quickly ignite everything around it. People burn this time of year because it is the safest time to do so. I would rather breath a little smoke than have my house endanger of a wild land fire. :twocents:

I understand that, but I still think people could burn safely up to about the end of June, most years. If not figure out something else to do with all those limbs. There were people with huge piles going all weekend and the smoke was staying right on the ground, for everyone to breathe. How about chipping it up? Funny thing is there actually was a burn ban a couple weeks ago due to air quality and you sure wouldn't have known it from all the fires going on. And I'm not talking about remote areas. Many of the fires I saw going could be seen from I-5.


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Re: State is talking about making it illegal to burn wood stoves
« Reply #19 on: February 12, 2012, 10:20:12 PM »
Yeah that sucks. I agree burning till end of June but the ban goes in effect in a lot of areas around the end of may. With the air as stagnant as it's been the smoke has really been hanging around. Cool thing is MOST rural departments dont issue tickets on the first response. :chuckle:
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Re: State is talking about making it illegal to burn wood stoves
« Reply #20 on: February 12, 2012, 10:21:33 PM »
I was so stinking close to renting a chipper! I didn't even think about it till most of my limbs were burnt! :bash: definitely an idea for next time! A lot less hassle!
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Re: State is talking about making it illegal to burn wood stoves
« Reply #21 on: February 12, 2012, 10:25:26 PM »
I started to burn piles of brush last weekend, but decided against trying to keep it lit when I noticed that the smoke was just hanging down low.  We need a little more wind so it will blow out of here, then I'll light it up.........should take a solid weekend to burn up all these branches.
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Re: State is talking about making it illegal to burn wood stoves
« Reply #22 on: February 13, 2012, 03:55:27 AM »
I'm going to marry my woodstove.We have been together for many years now.She has kept me warm when I feed her,always awesome to cuddle up to and read a book.I can go away for weeks,come home and there she is.Never a doubt she has been faithful while I was away.sure she smokes once in a while,but once I get her all heated up,she is sooo smooth clean and HOT.
Please write your Representatives,I know they have much more important issues to deal with,like budgets and wolves, doesn't my relationship with my stove mean anything...

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Re: State is talking about making it illegal to burn wood stoves
« Reply #23 on: February 13, 2012, 05:09:35 AM »
Idiots.  Are they really that stupid?
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Re: State is talking about making it illegal to burn wood stoves
« Reply #24 on: February 13, 2012, 05:42:57 AM »
I'm going to marry my woodstove.We have been together for many years now.She has kept me warm when I feed her,always awesome to cuddle up to and read a book.I can go away for weeks,come home and there she is.Never a doubt she has been faithful while I was away.sure she smokes once in a while,but once I get her all heated up,she is sooo smooth clean and HOT.
Please write your Representatives,I know they have much more important issues to deal with,like budgets and wolves, doesn't my relationship with my stove mean anything...

Rasbo, keep your eyes off of my woodstove! :chuckle:

 



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