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Title: Katahdin Sheep
Post by: Machias on May 12, 2017, 10:09:08 AM
Well I am a sheep herder.   :chuckle:  I got a nice year old full Katahdin ram and 4 adult ewes (one full Katahdin and 3 Katahdin/Barbados) and one 2 month old wether.  Got three more 3 month old Katahdin/Dorper ewes coming next month.
Title: Re: Katahdin Sheep
Post by: elkinrutdrivemenuts on May 12, 2017, 12:12:02 PM
Want some.more?! 
Title: Re: Katahdin Sheep
Post by: Machias on May 12, 2017, 01:15:12 PM
You have some for sale?
Title: Re: Katahdin Sheep
Post by: elkinrutdrivemenuts on May 13, 2017, 02:59:59 PM
You have some for sale?

I have a few. Mom's with lambs and two Rams.  Pure bred.  I'm in Coeur d Alene.  Pm if your interested
Title: Re: Katahdin Sheep
Post by: Axle on May 13, 2017, 04:42:06 PM
Nice!
Katahdin are nice hair sheep. I have 2 at this time. I had American Blackbelly sheep for many years but switched over to Katahdin sheep. The Blackbelly sheep sure look majestic but the rams seem to think their goal in life at 3 years old is to kill their owner. And they are hard on trees.
Katahdin taste great - as do the Blackbelly - but the Katahdin grow much faster.
My next breed to try is Dorper sheep.
Hair sheep are better than goats. They eat everything a goat will eat but they don't bellow for food all the time. They are much more quiet. I like quiet. And I like lamb meat over goat meat.
Title: Re: Katahdin Sheep
Post by: carpsniperg2 on May 13, 2017, 04:49:29 PM
 :yeah: Hair sheep are they way to go. I had a bunch for a few years. Much better eating then wool sheep for sure.
You do have to watch the rams they will blind side you and can break legs or hips for sure.
Title: Re: Katahdin Sheep
Post by: Machias on May 14, 2017, 09:25:56 AM
You have some for sale?

I have a few. Mom's with lambs and two Rams.  Pure bred.  I'm in Coeur d Alene.  Pm if your interested

Thanks, I think I have plenty now, but I appreciate it.
Title: Re: Katahdin Sheep
Post by: Machias on May 20, 2017, 05:40:56 AM
SOB, I lost 2 sheep to yotes yesterday. 
Title: Re: Katahdin Sheep
Post by: jackelope on May 20, 2017, 06:32:21 AM
That sucks. My MiL has miniature donkeys out with her goats at all times to keep the coyotes out.   Not sure if I'd call them miniature but she's never lost a goat. There's about a bazillion coyotes around and I had a trail cam a mile or so away that had 5 different lions on it in one summer. So maybe they do work.
Title: Re: Katahdin Sheep
Post by: elkinrutdrivemenuts on May 20, 2017, 08:40:00 AM
SOB, I lost 2 sheep to yotes yesterday.

Thought about getting a dog to.live with the sheep?   There are several.good breeds that guard them and don't mess with the sheep.  Also, you in the market now for a couple more.  I will give you a mom and her lamb  if you are trying to establish a flock.
Title: Re: Katahdin Sheep
Post by: Machias on May 20, 2017, 11:42:36 AM
SOB, I lost 2 sheep to yotes yesterday.

Thought about getting a dog to.live with the sheep?   There are several.good breeds that guard them and don't mess with the sheep.  Also, you in the market now for a couple more.  I will give you a mom and her lamb  if you are trying to establish a flock.

I have thought about it, I've used a guard donkey in the past as well as a llama, both were effective.  Thinking I may just lock them in at night and let them out in the morning.  I have an enclosed shelter I think will protect them.  That is a super nice offer, I may just take you up on that, but I need to make sure I have them protected before I bring over any others, would hate to bring them in and not have them adequately protected.  Thanks!! 
Title: Re: Katahdin Sheep
Post by: ELKBURGER on May 22, 2017, 12:58:05 PM
I just picked up a couple wethered New Zealand Kiku goats. Hoping they tear up some blackberries.
Title: Re: Katahdin Sheep
Post by: Machias on May 30, 2017, 01:03:56 PM
My ram is now in his own pen.  He had a go at me this weekend.  I've been locking them up at night to keep them safe from the yotes.  I let them out and was walking behind the flock so I could get out of the pasture and I seen him pin his ears back.  I knew he was going to turn around and take a shot at me.  So I had already backed up a bit and was able to get into a part of the barn he can't reach.  He backed up a couple of times and lowered his head.  I hung out in the barn for a couple of minutes until the wife came out and distracted him with some grain so I could get out of the pasture.  He's 200 pounds, he could put a hurt on me.  So I fixed up the corral, and he's in there pouting and crying now because he can't get to the girls.  Much safer in the pasture now.  LOL
Title: Re: Katahdin Sheep
Post by: Viszla on May 30, 2017, 02:21:43 PM
I've got a bunch of katahdin lambs available if your interested. After losing several to a cougar a couple years ago we got a guardian dog(great Pyrenees) and haven't had any problems with predators since.
Title: Re: Katahdin Sheep
Post by: Special T on May 30, 2017, 03:04:33 PM
Poor guy is Gona suffer from the DSB!

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Title: Re: Katahdin Sheep
Post by: Machias on May 30, 2017, 04:17:16 PM
Poor guy is Gona suffer from the DSB!

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:chuckle:
Title: Re: Katahdin Sheep
Post by: Machias on May 30, 2017, 04:19:06 PM
I've got a bunch of katahdin lambs available if your interested. After losing several to a cougar a couple years ago we got a guardian dog(great Pyrenees) and haven't had any problems with predators since.

Yea we had a llama and then we had a donkey.  No issues.  There is actually a female llama on Craigslist for $50, but they can't haul.  If I had a trailer I'd be going to pick her up now.  So far locking them in at night is working good.  They have a nice roomy shelter that I am pretty sure the yotes cannot get into.  How much do you sell your ewe lambs for?
Title: Re: Katahdin Sheep
Post by: elkinrutdrivemenuts on May 31, 2017, 09:35:26 AM
My ram is now in his own pen.  He had a go at me this weekend.  I've been locking them up at night to keep them safe from the yotes.  I let them out and was walking behind the flock so I could get out of the pasture and I seen him pin his ears back.  I knew he was going to turn around and take a shot at me.  So I had already backed up a bit and was able to get into a part of the barn he can't reach.  He backed up a couple of times and lowered his head.  I hung out in the barn for a couple of minutes until the wife came out and distracted him with some grain so I could get out of the pasture.  He's 200 pounds, he could put a hurt on me.  So I fixed up the corral, and he's in there pouting and crying now because he can't get to the girls.  Much safer in the pasture now.  LOL

I always take something to knock my ram on the head if he gets feisty.  He usually likes to test me but if you come at him strong, he backs down.  A swift kick in the butt also helps.  😁
Title: Re: Katahdin Sheep
Post by: Machias on May 31, 2017, 09:03:52 PM
 :chuckle:
Title: Re: Katahdin Sheep
Post by: Viszla on June 06, 2017, 12:17:49 PM
I've got a bunch of katahdin lambs available if your interested. After losing several to a cougar a couple years ago we got a guardian dog(great Pyrenees) and haven't had any problems with predators since.

Yea we had a llama and then we had a donkey.  No issues.  There is actually a female llama on Craigslist for $50, but they can't haul.  If I had a trailer I'd be going to pick her up now.  So far locking them in at night is working good.  They have a nice roomy shelter that I am pretty sure the yotes cannot get into.  How much do you sell your ewe lambs for?

I've been selling for $100 each. That's been my hold up from getting into cows, no trailer to haul. Trailers aren't  cheap these these days so I'm stuck with animals I can throw in the back of a truck. So far the sheep have worked out well. Poor mans beef I always say...
Title: Re: Katahdin Sheep
Post by: gaddy on June 06, 2017, 02:30:47 PM
Don't let a trailer stop you from cows. My moms boy friend, years ago, got our heard started by buying one at auction. Hauled it home in a station wagon. Who knew that cows get car sick, and get the runs  :chuckle: You couldn't even see in the windows of the car.
Title: Re: Katahdin Sheep
Post by: Machias on June 06, 2017, 04:37:10 PM
 :chuckle:
Title: Re: Katahdin Sheep
Post by: HighlandLofts on August 12, 2017, 09:29:11 PM
I have a friend that is looking for a small size hair sheep ram, he can't handle the larger size sheep. He had to get rid of his ram two years ago because it got to be over three years old and became to much for him to handle. 

The smaller size the better.

I ram lamb would work if any one has one.

Title: Re: Katahdin Sheep
Post by: Machias on January 31, 2018, 05:54:47 PM
One of my Katahdin ewes is in the middle of delivering lambs right now.  One black one so far.  Very cool, I got to walk up right when she was delivering it.  I think she may have another one or two in there, she's as big as a house!  I'll check in a while, don't want to disturb her.  I think I'll name it Eclipse.  :)
Title: Re: Katahdin Sheep
Post by: elkinrutdrivemenuts on January 31, 2018, 08:15:56 PM
Keep an eye on her, she won't mind.  Make sure she doesn't forget she had the first one.  It happens I have been there before.  Also if she is not separate from the others you will want to watch them.
Title: Re: Katahdin Sheep
Post by: Machias on January 31, 2018, 08:45:05 PM
She had twins, both up and walking around, she is loving on both of them.  She is separated from the other three ewes.  Thanks for the advice!
Title: Re: Katahdin Sheep
Post by: elkinrutdrivemenuts on January 31, 2018, 10:07:47 PM
That's a good ewe, keep her around!  I've had to strap moms in place to get them to feed twins before after they left them alone. They didn't get another chance to breed at my place.  The katahdin breed in my experience are great at delivery without assistance.  Some are just not good moms.
Title: Re: Katahdin Sheep
Post by: Machias on February 01, 2018, 08:41:53 AM
 :tup: :tup:

Question for you real quick.  So the Ewe is supposed to be pure Katahdin and is pure white.  The Ram was not registered, but I have his papers, white with a couple of brown spots.  Both of these lambs came out looking like pure Barbados, with a little white on the noggins.  :)  I'll take a couple of photos tonight.  I know Katahdins can be black and/or brown.  Have you had lambs that turn out like this even though both the ewe and the ram are nearly pure white?  Looks very cool.  Also how old do you band your rams?
Title: Re: Katahdin Sheep
Post by: elkinrutdrivemenuts on February 01, 2018, 09:22:44 AM
I have had brown multi colored lambs when both parents were pure white. Its common. Probably got it from the dad if he has a little brown.   

I never banded my ram lambs.  You are supposed to let them drop and do it within 7 days or so.  I tried, but when they are that small I couldn't be confident I actually had the testicles isolated and didn't want to just pinch off the scrotum.  I would sell the ram lambs when they were 6 months old before they would be able to breed. 
Title: Re: Katahdin Sheep
Post by: Machias on February 01, 2018, 12:19:14 PM
 :tup:  Thanks!!
Title: Re: Katahdin Sheep
Post by: DOUBLELUNG on February 01, 2018, 03:03:30 PM
I used to milk goats in high school and had a 300+lb Nubian billy split my scalp.  The working over with a shovel helped my mental state but did nothing to take the fight out of him.  I highly recommend a spray bottle of ammonia, a few encounters with a nose full of ammonia calms them right the #@$%^&*( down.
Title: Re: Katahdin Sheep
Post by: jackelope on February 01, 2018, 03:16:52 PM
I used to milk goats in high school and had a 300+lb Nubian billy split my scalp.  The working over with a shovel helped my mental state but did nothing to take the fight out of him.  I highly recommend a spray bottle of ammonia, a few encounters with a nose full of ammonia calms them right the #@$%^&*( down.

That's what you get for trying to milk a billy.
Title: Re: Katahdin Sheep
Post by: DOUBLELUNG on February 01, 2018, 03:23:24 PM
I used to milk goats in high school and had a 300+lb Nubian billy split my scalp.  The working over with a shovel helped my mental state but did nothing to take the fight out of him.  I highly recommend a spray bottle of ammonia, a few encounters with a nose full of ammonia calms them right the #@$%^&*( down.

That's what you get for trying to milk a billy.

Doh!
Title: Re: Katahdin Sheep
Post by: Machias on February 01, 2018, 05:53:06 PM
 :chuckle: :chuckle: :chuckle:
Title: Re: Katahdin Sheep
Post by: Machias on February 02, 2018, 07:54:08 AM
Another set of twins last night.  Both doing well so far.  Both were white, but one had a couple of small light brown spots.
Title: Re: Katahdin Sheep
Post by: Machias on February 02, 2018, 07:13:51 PM
Well, well, well. Had my second set of twins this morning before leaving for work. When I went down to feed she had just had number 2. They were both up wobbly, and she was being very attentive. Got home tonight and all 4 babies were looking great. Then I hear something, look outside the shelter and there is #3 from this morning.  She had triplets, not twins!!  A little ram. The ewe wants nothing to do with him. I brought him in the house and got 5 ounces of colostrum down him. Seems to be doing pretty good. I'll give him some more colostrum over the next 12 hours or so every couple of hours. Then switch over to sheep milk replacer.
Title: Re: Katahdin Sheep
Post by: Duckslayer89 on February 02, 2018, 07:20:59 PM
Well, well, well. Had my second set of twins this morning before leaving for work. When I went down to feed she had just had number 2. They were both up wobbly, and she was being very attentive. Got home tonight and all 4 babies were looking great. Then I hear something, look outside the shelter and there is #3 from this morning.  She had triplets, not twins!!  A little ram. The ewe wants nothing to do with him. I brought him in the house and got 5 ounces of colostrum down him. Seems to be doing pretty good. I'll give him some more colostrum over the next 12 hours or so every couple of hours. Then switch over to sheep milk replacer.

Why do you think she wonít feed him?
Title: Re: Katahdin Sheep
Post by: Machias on February 02, 2018, 07:23:54 PM
No idea, maybe she had him and was too busy with the other 2?   :dunno:    My understanding it is fairly common among sheep.
Title: Re: Katahdin Sheep
Post by: runamuk on February 02, 2018, 07:52:09 PM
No idea, maybe she had him and was too busy with the other 2?   :dunno:    My understanding it is fairly common among sheep.

It is you can often pin the ewe and force the issue often after 3 or 4 feedings they will accept them. I had one ewe who couldnt feed her twins because her udder was only half functional. So her ram lamb was a bottle baby but he lived with the crew.

Most my ewes could and would feed 3-5 lambs easily.  I had finnsheep and  ramboulette merino cross.  My first time ramby ewes were the sketchiest needing some convincing that yes that critter is gonna nurse.   :bash:
Title: Re: Katahdin Sheep
Post by: Machias on February 02, 2018, 08:09:12 PM
I am on a group FaceBook page and they are also recommending either putting her in a halter and tie her up so she can eat, drink and laydown only and the babies can nurse or put her in a headgate.
Title: Re: Katahdin Sheep
Post by: Boss .300 winmag on February 02, 2018, 08:29:26 PM
Donít use replacer itís garbage, when Iíve had goat kids that the doe wouldnít feed I use vitamin D milk, much cheaper and they do great on it, little butter balls in no time.  Never lost any using it.  :twocents:

I know these are sheep, but I donít think they are that much different .

http://goat-link.com/content/view/94/76/#.WnU7CmKIaEd

Feeding Bottle Baby Goats

The most important thing I can stress when feeding bottle baby goats is to try and do what a natural goat mom would do- The first few days goat moms allow the babies to eat many times per day but if you watch them they only eat a small amount each time, as they get older, mom will only stand to allow them to nurse for a certain amount of time and then walk away- so babies learn to eat more at each feeding - giving bottle babies 2 or 3 huge bottles a day in the first weeks is not only harmful for the baby's digestive system but really not fair to the baby.
After they receive colostrum (Mother's first milk) For the first 24 hours of life, bottle fed kids should be fed fresh (or frozen) goat's milk if at all possible. If you cannot get fresh goat's milk, you can use whole (not 2%) cows milk from the store. I do not recommend using fresh cow's milk UNLESS you know for a fact the farm is certified because the transfer of Johne's or CAE to a baby goat from the cow's milk is possible. In a PINCH You CAN use Canned milk ONLY if you read the ingredients- do NOT used what is called FILLED Evaporated milk- Many canned milks are part soy, Never use this. Use only whole canned milk if you need to.(Diluted in half with water) Carnation canned cow's milk is whole milk without soy and is safe to use.
DO NOT FEED POWDERED MILK REPLACERS/FORMULA!
Milk Replacers Kill Baby Goats!!- Milk Replacers KILL Baby Goats!!! MILK REPLACERS KILL BABY GOATS!!!!!
I know this is ridiculous to put this way BUT Please people.. Trust me.. while there may be an unusual case of milk replacers NOT killing baby goats BUT they do more than they do not Unless the breeder is able to get the scouring baby turned around before they die! I cannot stress this hard enough.
Real whole milk, even raw milk from a cow, is much better for them than milk replacer , which can cause diarrhea and floppy kid syndrome. Very often, problems with bottle fed kids stem from the use of milk replacer. I cannot tell you how many emails and phone calls I get a week (sometimes so many in just a DAY) from gals who are losing kids due to kid milk replacers- Even the "best" replacers. "Even" the ones that say "kid replacer" Just don't use them. They are expensive and really not your best choice.
Title: Re: Katahdin Sheep
Post by: elkinrutdrivemenuts on February 02, 2018, 08:32:22 PM
I am on a group FaceBook page and they are also recommending either putting her in a halter and tie her up so she can eat, drink and laydown only and the babies can nurse or put her in a headgate.

I have done that before and it works. Triplets are tough, a good ewe will make sure they are all taken care of, but the first time they have triplets gets confusing for them. I used a couple bands that are used to go under a horses chest when wearing a saddle and tied her to the wall.  Using just a head restraint will allow the ewe to get away from the lamb.  I basically made sure she couldn't lay down and couldn't get away from the lambs.  Sometimes it takes a few hours sometimes a couple days.  Make sure she has fresh water and food in front of her and you are good.  Give her a break every now and then and see how she interacts with all.of them and you will know when she has accepted it.
Title: Re: Katahdin Sheep
Post by: Machias on February 02, 2018, 09:53:47 PM
I'm just going to bottle feed him.  He did great the last 2 feedings.  Thanks for the advice!!
Title: Re: Katahdin Sheep
Post by: Machias on February 02, 2018, 09:59:43 PM
DO NOT FEED POWDERED MILK REPLACERS/FORMULA!
Milk Replacers Kill Baby Goats!!- Milk Replacers KILL Baby Goats!!! MILK REPLACERS KILL BABY GOATS!!!!!
I know this is ridiculous to put this way BUT Please people.. Trust me.. while there may be an unusual case of milk replacers NOT killing baby goats BUT they do more than they do not Unless the breeder is able to get the scouring baby turned around before they die! I cannot stress this hard enough.
Real whole milk, even raw milk from a cow, is much better for them than milk replacer , which can cause diarrhea and floppy kid syndrome. Very often, problems with bottle fed kids stem from the use of milk replacer. I cannot tell you how many emails and phone calls I get a week (sometimes so many in just a DAY) from gals who are losing kids due to kid milk replacers- Even the "best" replacers. "Even" the ones that say "kid replacer" Just don't use them. They are expensive and really not your best choice."

Funny, most of the folks on the Katahdin Sheep Breeder's page say don't use whole milk from a cow, sheep milk replacer is soo much better.  :)
Title: Re: Katahdin Sheep
Post by: Boss .300 winmag on February 02, 2018, 10:04:54 PM
DO NOT FEED POWDERED MILK REPLACERS/FORMULA!
Milk Replacers Kill Baby Goats!!- Milk Replacers KILL Baby Goats!!! MILK REPLACERS KILL BABY GOATS!!!!!
I know this is ridiculous to put this way BUT Please people.. Trust me.. while there may be an unusual case of milk replacers NOT killing baby goats BUT they do more than they do not Unless the breeder is able to get the scouring baby turned around before they die! I cannot stress this hard enough.
Real whole milk, even raw milk from a cow, is much better for them than milk replacer , which can cause diarrhea and floppy kid syndrome. Very often, problems with bottle fed kids stem from the use of milk replacer. I cannot tell you how many emails and phone calls I get a week (sometimes so many in just a DAY) from gals who are losing kids due to kid milk replacers- Even the "best" replacers. "Even" the ones that say "kid replacer" Just don't use them. They are expensive and really not your best choice."

Funny, most of the folks on the Katahdin Sheep Breeder's page say don't use whole milk from a cow, sheep milk replacer is soo much better.  :)

Yeah IDK, when I was kid we list a calf feeding it replacer.

Goat kids do well on vitamin D/ whole milk.

Title: Re: Katahdin Sheep
Post by: runamuk on February 02, 2018, 11:44:53 PM
I just milked my ewes and froze colostrum and milk. I also had a handy goat dairy where I could get fresh goats milk if I was desperate. Never occured to me to buy replacer :dunno:
Title: Re: Katahdin Sheep
Post by: jackelope on February 03, 2018, 06:39:09 AM
My mother in law pulls all her babies and bottle feeds them. Milks the does and bottle feeds them. She uses 12 ounce soda bottles with nipples on them. Feeds them all that way. Sheís retired though. Has lots of time with them.  I think she does it to bond with the goats.  They all follow her around like puppy dogs everywhere she goes.
Title: Re: Katahdin Sheep
Post by: Machias on February 03, 2018, 07:29:28 AM
He's doing well, figuring out the nipple thing pretty quick. 
Title: Re: Katahdin Sheep
Post by: jackelope on February 03, 2018, 07:34:02 AM
Awesome. Post some pics!
Title: Re: Katahdin Sheep
Post by: Machias on February 03, 2018, 08:54:13 PM
What is everyone using to host photos now that photobucket is not an option?

I built a headgate today, worked great but he could just not figure out how to make them real teats work.  So he is being bottle fed again.
Title: Re: Katahdin Sheep
Post by: Boss .300 winmag on February 03, 2018, 08:55:54 PM
What is everyone using to host photos now that photobucket is not an option?

I built a headgate today, worked great but he could just not figure out how to make them real teats work.  So he is being bottle fed again.

My IPhone, screen shot them then post.
Title: Re: Katahdin Sheep
Post by: Machias on February 05, 2018, 08:37:47 PM
https://photos.app.goo.gl/xDECc5DebdFFbRpp1

https://photos.app.goo.gl/xwYzF1eZ1BWw73r83

https://photos.app.goo.gl/ARyHLlkaojhaBWDO2

Headgate in action.  Worked great but the little guy could not figure out how to make the real teats work.

https://photos.app.goo.gl/HZcfHzTxK9qrmZEq2

https://photos.app.goo.gl/BZyJRbJHUthWi5Is1

https://photos.app.goo.gl/Ythz1pHZDb1WgdYn2

https://photos.app.goo.gl/Unv7skZgJC0V6zuD3

https://photos.app.goo.gl/kCgTQikM7Tuskd533

https://photos.app.goo.gl/ZtgJyKMFXT6odxQt1

https://photos.app.goo.gl/3B2Ys90f6dii5xXV2


Title: Re: Katahdin Sheep
Post by: goldenhtr on February 05, 2018, 09:11:02 PM
I also used whole cows milk for the last two goat kids we bottle fed. They did GREAT. I read the same thing about replacer.
Title: Re: Katahdin Sheep
Post by: Machias on February 06, 2018, 09:40:08 AM
DO NOT FEED POWDERED MILK REPLACERS/FORMULA!
Milk Replacers Kill Baby Goats!!- Milk Replacers KILL Baby Goats!!! MILK REPLACERS KILL BABY GOATS!!!!!
I know this is ridiculous to put this way BUT Please people.. Trust me.. while there may be an unusual case of milk replacers NOT killing baby goats BUT they do more than they do not Unless the breeder is able to get the scouring baby turned around before they die! I cannot stress this hard enough.
Real whole milk, even raw milk from a cow, is much better for them than milk replacer , which can cause diarrhea and floppy kid syndrome. Very often, problems with bottle fed kids stem from the use of milk replacer. I cannot tell you how many emails and phone calls I get a week (sometimes so many in just a DAY) from gals who are losing kids due to kid milk replacers- Even the "best" replacers. "Even" the ones that say "kid replacer" Just don't use them. They are expensive and really not your best choice."

Funny, most of the folks on the Katahdin Sheep Breeder's page say don't use whole milk from a cow, sheep milk replacer is soo much better.  :)

I'm going to take your advice and give whole milk a shot.  I had another guy on the Katahdin Sheep Breeder's Facebook page who raises on average 100 bottle babies a year and gave the same advice as you gave.  He also said he's NEVER had an issue.  Many years ago when he used milk replacer he lost hundreds of babies one year.  Thanks again for your advice, I appreciate it!
Title: Re: Katahdin Sheep
Post by: Boss .300 winmag on February 06, 2018, 10:23:51 AM
DO NOT FEED POWDERED MILK REPLACERS/FORMULA!
Milk Replacers Kill Baby Goats!!- Milk Replacers KILL Baby Goats!!! MILK REPLACERS KILL BABY GOATS!!!!!
I know this is ridiculous to put this way BUT Please people.. Trust me.. while there may be an unusual case of milk replacers NOT killing baby goats BUT they do more than they do not Unless the breeder is able to get the scouring baby turned around before they die! I cannot stress this hard enough.
Real whole milk, even raw milk from a cow, is much better for them than milk replacer , which can cause diarrhea and floppy kid syndrome. Very often, problems with bottle fed kids stem from the use of milk replacer. I cannot tell you how many emails and phone calls I get a week (sometimes so many in just a DAY) from gals who are losing kids due to kid milk replacers- Even the "best" replacers. "Even" the ones that say "kid replacer" Just don't use them. They are expensive and really not your best choice."

Funny, most of the folks on the Katahdin Sheep Breeder's page say don't use whole milk from a cow, sheep milk replacer is soo much better.  :)

I'm going to take your advice and give whole milk a shot.  I had another guy on the Katahdin Sheep Breeder's Facebook page who raises on average 100 bottle babies a year and gave the same advice as you gave.  He also said he's NEVER had an issue.  Many years ago when he used milk replacer he lost hundreds of babies one year.  Thanks again for your advice, I appreciate it!

Your welcome.  :tup:


Just warm it up a little in the microwave in the bottles, theyíll suck the bottles dry quick.
Title: Re: Katahdin Sheep
Post by: Machias on February 12, 2018, 07:55:37 PM
Another set of twins today, 2 ram lambs.  Doing great!

https://photos.app.goo.gl/lH7BJqQAxCAcCLLA2
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Post by: Boss .300 winmag on February 12, 2018, 08:03:09 PM
Cute little buggers. :)

How are the bottle feeders doing?
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Post by: Machias on February 12, 2018, 08:29:58 PM
The bottle ram is doing outstanding.  Bigdave's daughter has been feeding him for the past week and he is doing fantastic!
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Post by: Boss .300 winmag on February 12, 2018, 08:47:38 PM
The bottle ram is doing outstanding.  Bigdave's daughter has been feeding him for the past week and he is doing fantastic!

Nice to hear.  :tup:
Heíll follow you around forever like a dog. Just gotta keep the predators away from him, he wonít know to run from them.
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Post by: runamuk on February 13, 2018, 05:47:12 AM
The bottle ram is doing outstanding.  Bigdave's daughter has been feeding him for the past week and he is doing fantastic!

Nice to hear.  :tup:
Heíll follow you around forever like a dog. Just gotta keep the predators away from him, he wonít know to run from them.
Also if you keep him to maturity be careful when he starts getting randy, he may be harder to handle being so human bonded.

I have moments when I miss my sheep. I love the lamb pics.
Title: Re: Katahdin Sheep
Post by: Machias on February 13, 2018, 08:19:04 AM
I've already banded him.
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Post by: bigdave on February 13, 2018, 09:21:32 AM
Machias let us have this little bottle baby at our house. It has been so much fun!! My daughter has done a great job of caring for Timmy the Lamb. He will be spoiled rotten I'm sure, no matter how hard I try. The whole cows milk was the ticket. He is doing so much better on that instead of the milk replacer.
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Post by: Machias on February 13, 2018, 09:42:23 AM
 :) :) :)  He looks great!  Your daughter has been doing an outstanding job!!!
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Post by: runamuk on February 13, 2018, 03:03:33 PM
I've already banded him.
:tup:
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Post by: Machias on February 17, 2018, 08:47:19 AM
Gusts up to 50 mph, snowing sideways, sure let's have triplet ewe lambs!! 😁 Glad she had them today, Monday night is supposed to get down to -1.  Finally done with Lambing season, 4 ewes had 10 lambs 6 ewe lambs and 4 ram lambs.  So far everyone is doing great.

https://photos.app.goo.gl/QJ3Ptz0DLHoIscwx2