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Big Game Hunting => Elk Hunting => Topic started by: White Pass Outfitters on July 17, 2017, 10:03:59 AM

Title: Watching them grow
Post by: White Pass Outfitters on July 17, 2017, 10:03:59 AM
Have been watching this bull grow the last two seasons, If he dont damage any antlers we will let one of are hunters take him this year.
Title: Re: Watching them grow
Post by: yakimanoob on July 17, 2017, 10:25:57 AM
Best ad I've seen in awhile  :tup:
Title: Re: Watching them grow
Post by: Timberstalker on July 17, 2017, 10:26:32 AM
Nice bull.  Looks like he's starting to strip velvet.
Title: Re: Watching them grow
Post by: White Pass Outfitters on July 17, 2017, 10:31:51 AM
Ya this was last year pic. haven't got to his home yet this year to set cameras. 
Title: Re: Watching them grow
Post by: BoomWhop on July 17, 2017, 10:38:19 AM
Wow
Title: Re: Watching them grow
Post by: Timberstalker on July 17, 2017, 10:52:00 AM
Ya this was last year pic. haven't got to his home yet this year to set cameras.

Makes a little more sense, now.
Hopefully you catch up to him.
Title: Re: Watching them grow
Post by: de0827 on July 17, 2017, 10:53:22 AM
Best ad I've seen in awhile  :tup:

 :yeah: This is probably one of the smartest marketing campaigns you could use in your line of work!  Nice job!  And that is a nice looking bull too!
Title: Re: Watching them grow
Post by: Pegasus on July 17, 2017, 03:12:47 PM
How do you know that bull is even still alive if you have not yet placed your camera? As soon as I saw the pic I thought it must be last years because that picture does not match antler development for most elk right now.  Also could you post the coordinates of his location so I can check on his welfare?
Title: Re: Watching them grow
Post by: White Pass Outfitters on July 17, 2017, 03:28:55 PM
lol, I put him to bed at the end of the season, so unless winter got him, I know right where he will be again this fall. I have been babysitting quite a few bulls in my area just waiting for the right year and hunter to go get them. Big mature HEARD Bulls find areas that have good feed,water and cover and will continue to use them until one of the three things are gone. Not worried about hunting pressure because of how remote with very limited access they are in. 
Title: Re: Watching them grow
Post by: kentrek on July 17, 2017, 03:38:15 PM
Even if he's not there, the requirement it's takes to have a bull like that are.....id take my chances going back  :tup:
Title: Re: Watching them grow
Post by: westside Elkhunter on July 18, 2017, 06:27:28 AM
Wow. Nice looking bull

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Title: Re: Watching them grow
Post by: deerlick on July 18, 2017, 07:04:51 AM
So you wil l let someone take the bull that lives on public land, what a concept.
Title: Re: Watching them grow
Post by: White Pass Outfitters on July 18, 2017, 07:06:50 AM
You can take him but you first have to find him. Good luck on that !
Title: Re: Watching them grow
Post by: White Pass Outfitters on July 18, 2017, 07:11:10 AM
You will need stock and one hell of a strong back to even get close to his home. Big Heard bulls don't get that way by hanging around all the roads and wknd warriors.
Title: Re: Watching them grow
Post by: de0827 on July 18, 2017, 10:51:01 AM
So you wil l let someone take the bull that lives on public land, what a concept.

The OP is an outfitter - that's what outfitters are supposed to do.  It's part of how they earn their $ in my opinion.  He's not claiming to have sole rights to this bull, he just put in the work to find him and keep tabs on him.  One of his paying clients will then be the recipient of that hard work by getting an opportunity at taking that bull.
Title: Re: Watching them grow
Post by: deerlick on July 18, 2017, 01:51:28 PM
looks to me like you need to find him too...
Title: Re: Watching them grow
Post by: greenhead_killer on July 18, 2017, 02:12:00 PM
Nice bull. It's fun watching year to year and see how the environment affects growth over the years. Hopefully one of your hunters is lucky enough to cross paths with this guy
Title: Re: Watching them grow
Post by: Shawn Ryan on July 18, 2017, 03:17:05 PM
Great bull. Nice marketing.  Hope you get on him this season.
Title: Re: Watching them grow
Post by: jackelope on July 18, 2017, 04:34:51 PM
Wow....some of the comments in this thread really make me want to  :bash:

We wonder why folks don't like to share photos on here. This is a perfect example of one of the reasons for that.
Title: Re: Watching them grow
Post by: jackelope on July 18, 2017, 04:35:59 PM
How do you know that bull is even still alive if you have not yet placed your camera? As soon as I saw the pic I thought it must be last years because that picture does not match antler development for most elk right now.  Also could you post the coordinates of his location so I can check on his welfare?

Most elk are pretty much done growing at this point.
:twocents:
Title: Re: Watching them grow
Post by: The scout on July 18, 2017, 04:39:52 PM
You can take him but you first have to find him. Good luck on that !


i know right where he live's, but come rut he travels a good bit
Title: Re: Watching them grow
Post by: Pegasus on July 18, 2017, 06:35:17 PM
How do you know that bull is even still alive if you have not yet placed your camera? As soon as I saw the pic I thought it must be last years because that picture does not match antler development for most elk right now.  Also could you post the coordinates of his location so I can check on his welfare?

Most elk are pretty much done growing at this point.
:twocents:

Well I  saw plenty of bulls a few days ago(Sunday) that still had all of their velvet on and still were growing(all of them) unlike the bull in the picture but send me the coordinates and prove me wrong.
Title: Re: Watching them grow
Post by: h20hunter on July 18, 2017, 06:40:58 PM
Great bull WPO, thank you for sharing and best of luck this season for you and your clients!
Title: Re: Watching them grow
Post by: The scout on July 18, 2017, 06:41:49 PM
just because they have velvet on doesn't mean they are still growing, they spend about a month or more just hardening there antlers, they are about done growing, maybe a inch or 2 at most per tine is all they will grow still.
Title: Re: Watching them grow
Post by: Pegasus on July 18, 2017, 07:07:32 PM
Bull pic appears to have little velvet on it which is my point unlike what is occurring on bulls right now. That was my clue that it was not this years pic. I agree most antler points are almost done growing now but still are covered with velvet. A couple of inches per tine makes a huge difference in what a bull elk will look like come the rut.
Title: Re: Watching them grow
Post by: The scout on July 18, 2017, 07:14:38 PM
its not hard to figure out what the bulls will look like come rut IF you have seen a bunch of bulls this time of year and see the same bulls hard horned
Title: Re: Watching them grow
Post by: Pegasus on July 18, 2017, 07:23:41 PM
Wow....some of the comments in this thread really make me want to  :bash:

We wonder why folks don't like to share photos on here. This is a perfect example of one of the reasons for that.

An outfitter shares a photo from last year and you are concerned that people question that? I am happy he shared the photo by the way but he should have shared the coordinates also. The outfitter did make it sound like he had exclusive rights to the bull for his clients and maybe one of his clients will take that bull or maybe not. Relax...Kent did.
Title: Re: Watching them grow
Post by: h20hunter on July 18, 2017, 07:29:59 PM
Share coordinates? Why? I wouldn't and sure wouldn't ask for them. Good for the OP putting in the time, effort,  and hoping a client tags out on him.
Title: Re: Watching them grow
Post by: Pegasus on July 18, 2017, 07:32:16 PM
its not hard to figure out what the bulls will look like come rut IF you have seen a bunch of bulls this time of year and see the same bulls hard horned

I think you and I are on different planets. My point was the bull in the pic was not a picture of what most bulls look like right now and the outfitter admitted the pic was from last year. If you keep posting for about three more weeks his bull from last year will look like most bulls this year. Capice?
Title: Re: Watching them grow
Post by: Pegasus on July 18, 2017, 07:34:32 PM
Share coordinates? Why? I wouldn't and sure wouldn't ask for them. Good for the OP putting in the time, effort,  and hoping a client tags out on him.

Its a joke. I know he won't give us the coordinates and so do you.
Title: Re: Watching them grow
Post by: jackelope on July 18, 2017, 07:46:18 PM
Wow....some of the comments in this thread really make me want to  :bash:

We wonder why folks don't like to share photos on here. This is a perfect example of one of the reasons for that.

An outfitter shares a photo from last year and you are concerned that people question that? I am happy he shared the photo by the way but he should have shared the coordinates also. The outfitter did make it sound like he had exclusive rights to the bull for his clients and maybe one of his clients will take that bull or maybe not. Relax...Kent did.

It's a trend. Folks post a pic, other folks nitpick it apart. Initial folks don't ever post pics again. Folks that nitpick the pics never post pictures of their own. It's a vicious circle.
Title: Re: Watching them grow
Post by: Pegasus on July 18, 2017, 08:12:03 PM
I have seen many pics posted here and most are thanked for their pics. I have not seen what you see but I am relatively new to the forum. Maybe outfitters that advertise here might enjoy some shilling from time to time? If an outfitter posts a pic of last years elk that he doesn't even know if it still exists then maybe the forum should call him on it which I did. Kent admitted it was last years and posted "LOL". I think most of us get it. My post wasn't to be mean, it was to post the obvious. He posted "LOL" signaling he was not upset. I asked him to post coordinates. Did you guys really think anyone will do that especially an outfitter? Duh.  I appreciate his posting of the pic and have been considering his services. I don't hunt ghost elk or last years elk though so we shall see...
Title: Re: Watching them grow
Post by: The scout on July 18, 2017, 08:28:46 PM
good for you not hunting ghost elk :tup:
Title: Re: Watching them grow
Post by: White Pass Outfitters on July 18, 2017, 09:39:48 PM
Ok guys everyone just needs to settle down. I have pictures of this bull for the last 3 yrs. I will be posting this years picture of him when I can get up to his home. But with more snow than last year and about 30 downed trees that I will have to cut out even to get up into his area I wont get any pic of him until Aug some time. And with wanting a client to take that bull this year I wont bother him as much as if I new we where going to let him mature for another year. If you bust a mature bull out of his home you might not see him the rest of the season. This is one reason I dont post that many pic on this site and only show clients most of the bulls that we have been watching and will be going after each year. Thanks for all the positive post and good luck to all this year !
Title: Re: Watching them grow
Post by: dreamingbig on July 18, 2017, 11:48:57 PM
just because they have velvet on doesn't mean they are still growing, they spend about a month or more just hardening there antlers, they are about done growing, maybe a inch or 2 at most per tine is all they will grow still.


Agreed.  The bulls in our unit start rubbing the velvet off the second week of August but they are done growing on the cams by third week of July.  This is based off 5 years of game camera data.


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Title: Re: Watching them grow
Post by: hoof rot on July 19, 2017, 07:03:29 AM
U girls quit fightin over my bull
Title: Re: Watching them grow
Post by: Timberstalker on July 19, 2017, 07:54:58 AM
 :chuckle: :chuckle:
Title: Re: Watching them grow
Post by: Jayfire83 on July 19, 2017, 01:35:03 PM
This was a great read, thanks for the entertainment  :chuckle:
Title: Re: Watching them grow
Post by: RG on July 20, 2017, 10:32:24 PM
I worked for Kent last fall and pulled pack strings into his territory. I can assure you that there are elk back there that haven't seen humans.  He has some of the best elk country I've seen and I've worked as a guide in British Columbia, Wyoming, Montana, and Idaho.  It's deep and steep country and he knows every bit of it.  If you want to backpack in there help yourself but you better be in shape.  And if you want a Goat he's definitely your man.  It's prime country and a really long trip from the trailhead. 
Title: Re: Watching them grow
Post by: Jacob444 on August 07, 2017, 01:59:55 PM
Great bull! Thanks for sharing!
Title: Re: Watching them grow
Post by: elkrack on August 10, 2017, 08:34:02 AM
This was a great read, thanks for the entertainment  :chuckle:

 :yeah:
Title: Re: Watching them grow
Post by: buglebrush on August 10, 2017, 08:40:42 AM
Wow....some of the comments in this thread really make me want to  :bash:

We wonder why folks don't like to share photos on here. This is a perfect example of one of the reasons for that.

An outfitter shares a photo from last year and you are concerned that people question that? I am happy he shared the photo by the way but he should have shared the coordinates also. The outfitter did make it sound like he had exclusive rights to the bull for his clients and maybe one of his clients will take that bull or maybe not. Relax...Kent did.

It's a trend. Folks post a pic, other folks nitpick it apart. Initial folks don't ever post pics again. Folks that nitpick the pics never post pictures of their own. It's a vicious circle.
:yeah:
Title: Re: Watching them grow
Post by: yakimanoob on August 10, 2017, 09:05:02 AM
U girls quit fightin over my bull

:yeah:

Thanks for posting, WPO, and good luck getting him!  I promise you for myself at least that you'll have no competition from me.  Try and get a bull within a few miles from the roads though, and no promises  :chuckle:.
Title: Re: Watching them grow
Post by: Elkcollector82 on September 28, 2017, 05:39:22 PM
You can take him but you first have to find him. Good luck on that !

Challenge excepted.  :tup:
Title: Re: Watching them grow
Post by: Stein on September 28, 2017, 05:46:00 PM
Sheesh, I'll be happy to shoot that bull's middle son.

I may have found one of the camps we are discussing after I completely misjudged the distance to a certain place.  I hiked about 5 miles further than I had anticipated and there it was.  I found it right after the realization that I was in so far there was zero chance of getting a bull out of there, so I spent the night and hiked back out the next day.  The spot I was going to glass would have been about 12 miles from a trailhead and it wasn't a pretty 12 miles.
Title: Re: Watching them grow
Post by: Tbob on September 29, 2017, 03:05:37 PM
Kent is no joke and knows his $h!t
He's a hell of a guy and works very hard to do what he does! Pics like this just motivate me to work harder!
Title: Re: Watching them grow
Post by: dreamingbig on September 29, 2017, 10:55:41 PM
I am still waiting for this years pic. We need an update.🤔


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Title: Re: Watching them grow
Post by: HuntnFishnRyan on September 30, 2017, 03:14:05 AM
I am still waiting for this years pic. We need an update.🤔


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I'd like to see an update too. Either a trail cam pic or a success story. Hopefully the latter.
Title: Re: Watching them grow
Post by: Jpmiller on September 30, 2017, 08:27:02 AM
Yeah can't someone just shoot this thing already! Great looking animal, hope someone gets a chance to bag him before a car or predator does.
Title: Re: Watching them grow
Post by: PastorJoel on September 30, 2017, 02:52:18 PM
I think it works something like this.  Whoever makes the 49th reply on this thread gets to hunt this bull with this outfitter.   :chuckle:
Title: Re: Watching them grow
Post by: PlateauNDN on September 30, 2017, 03:00:54 PM
Ok, ok...I'll take 1 for the team...I'll start a gofundme to pay him to pack me in to see this bull in person and get measurements.
Title: Re: Watching them grow
Post by: elkchaser54 on September 30, 2017, 11:10:34 PM
I think 50th is more important then 49th post . Therefore we can do both take the guided trip. I will take some other elk, maybe bigger 😉
Title: Re: Watching them grow
Post by: Elkcollector82 on October 01, 2017, 12:11:52 AM
I think 50th is more important then 49th post . Therefore we can do both take the guided trip. I will take some other elk, maybe bigger 😉

Your one post to late to the party if it's 50th.  :chuckle:
Title: Re: Watching them grow
Post by: elkchaser54 on October 01, 2017, 08:40:44 AM
Counting was never my best skill once I get past 20 and can't use my fingers and toes anymore
Title: Re: Watching them grow
Post by: Don_D on October 01, 2017, 06:11:43 PM
We really do need an updated pic of this one. Dang.
Title: Re: Watching them grow
Post by: Elkcollector82 on October 01, 2017, 06:26:29 PM
Counting was never my best skill once I get past 20 and can't use my fingers and toes anymore

I hear you. Sometimes I loose count just going from fingers to toes.   :bash:
Title: Re: Watching them grow
Post by: PlateauNDN on October 01, 2017, 09:25:48 PM
So Elkcollector82 seconded my suggestion, now we just need a vote on the motion. :chuckle:
Title: Re: Watching them grow
Post by: White Pass Outfitters on October 24, 2017, 09:07:39 AM
Didnt get him but got his son. Only seen him once this yr from quit a distance and of course in a deep nasty hole.
Title: Re: Watching them grow
Post by: jackelope on October 24, 2017, 09:13:27 AM
Didnt get him but got his son. Only seen him once this yr from quit a distance and of course in a deep nasty hole.

That's not an elk on the right.
Title: Re: Watching them grow
Post by: 7mmfan on October 24, 2017, 09:17:45 AM
Didnt get him but got his son. Only seen him once this yr from quit a distance and of course in a deep nasty hole.

That's not an elk on the right.

Looks like an albino spike to me? Perfectly legal.
Title: Re: Watching them grow
Post by: PlateauNDN on October 24, 2017, 09:28:38 AM
 :yeah: :chuckle:
Title: Re: Watching them grow
Post by: dreamingbig on October 25, 2017, 07:15:16 AM
Love the mass!  Are his g2s MIA?


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