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Other Hunting => Coyote, Small Game, Varmints => Topic started by: PNWWARRIOR94 on August 06, 2017, 10:12:41 AM

Title: .22 vs .223
Post by: PNWWARRIOR94 on August 06, 2017, 10:12:41 AM
so i have been hunting dogs for a little over two years now and i seem to have a problem finding the right optic for my AR 15, i use it as my coyote hunting rifle but finding an optic is near impossible. Because i hunt coyotes mostly in timber its pretty hard to use a regular rifle scope. Also i purchased a "holographic" sight from a gun show and its garbage every time i try to shoot it, the damn sight shuts off after i fire. so im thinking of just swapping to the trusty old .22 because i have faster target acquisition. but will a .22 drop a dog like a .223? What would someone recommend as far as an optic for my .223 
Title: Re: .22 vs .223
Post by: carpsniperg2 on August 06, 2017, 10:17:13 AM
First I would still shop for a new scope. Plenty of options out there just got to find the right one for you.
I would look into a low powered leupold MK ar or VX hog.

22LR will not drop most coyotes unless you hit the nervous system. Get a 22 magnum and you will drop a lot more coyotes. We have shot a ton of coyotes and it always surprises me with a 40g hollow point how many drop with a 22 mag.
Title: Re: .22 vs .223
Post by: snowshoes22 on August 06, 2017, 10:21:26 AM
Have you tried a low power scope?
Title: Re: .22 vs .223
Post by: PNWWARRIOR94 on August 06, 2017, 10:25:03 AM
I was originally using a 3-9x40 nikon Prostaff. but the target acquisition was too slow for thick timber i needed something more open which is the reason i switched to a Holo... I was thinking of buying an old eotech or something to see if it works better.
Title: Re: .22 vs .223
Post by: Blacktail Sniper on August 06, 2017, 10:39:30 AM
Leupold VX1 in 1-4 power.  Put on 1x and you have plenty of wide open viewing for close, fast targeting, crank to 4x and you have something for those slightly longer shots.

Title: Re: .22 vs .223
Post by: hunter399 on August 06, 2017, 12:55:34 PM
First I would still shop for a new scope. Plenty of options out there just got to find the right one for you.
I would look into a low powered leupold MK ar or VX hog.

22LR will not drop most coyotes unless you hit the nervous system. Get a 22 magnum and you will drop a lot more coyotes. We have shot a ton of coyotes and it always surprises me with a 40g hollow point how many drop with a 22 mag.
:yeah:
I do agree with this
Title: Re: .22 vs .223
Post by: Special T on August 06, 2017, 01:20:53 PM
I can't imagine using a scope coyote hinting in timber.

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Title: Re: .22 vs .223
Post by: AWS on August 07, 2017, 08:29:07 AM
Blacktailsniper has the answer for you. 

The Leupold VX-1, VX-2(1-4x20mm), Weaver V-3(1-3x20mm) and there are bunch more that will give you huge FOV''s(60-90 feet) that make target acquisition in cover easy.  I use these scopes on my combo guns and drillings and on 1x can even shoot flying birds.   Don't let the small objective scare you off with their low power they still have as large an exit pupal as your eye can use.  If it is light enough to see a coyote coming with your bare eye you should be able to see it in the scope.

These are not just short range scopes either, cranked up to 4x they are for me good for 300+ yards.

 (http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/640x480q90/924/xGZlAI.jpg) (https://imageshack.com/i/poxGZlAIj)

My longest kill this past season with the rifle barrel was 180 yards, the shortest was 6 feet after I rolled it at 40 yards with the shotgun barrel and it charged straight at me.

This one is pretty accurate also, an honest 300+ yard coyote rifle.

(http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/640x480q90/923/Y1DZIO.jpg) (https://imageshack.com/i/pnY1DZIOj)

In these pictures I have a Nikon 1.5-4.5x20 on it but have changed to a Leupold 1-4x20.

Title: Re: .22 vs .223
Post by: Gringo31 on August 07, 2017, 01:58:32 PM
Agree with the 22 mag comments.



Why not just remove the scope from your 223?
Title: Re: .22 vs .223
Post by: WARHORSE on August 07, 2017, 02:34:20 PM
Vortex spitfire
Title: Re: .22 vs .223
Post by: Rob on August 07, 2017, 02:40:06 PM
This is a very nice little red-dot for under $70 bucks (Bushnell Trophy TRS)  I'd put this on your 223.  Carry a spare battery as it is only battery powered (only down side).

I have a few of these and they are a great value for the money.

https://www.amazon.com/Bushnell-Trophy-TRS-25-Sight-Riflescope/dp/B00200E0HM/ref=sr_1_1?s=sporting-goods&ie=UTF8&qid=1502141897&sr=1-1&keywords=bushnell+red+dot
Title: Re: .22 vs .223
Post by: Rob on August 07, 2017, 02:42:23 PM
This is a very nice little red-dot for under $70 bucks (Bushnell Trophy TRS)  I'd put this on your 223.  Carry a spare battery as it is only battery powered (only down side).

I have a few of these and they are a great value for the money.

https://www.amazon.com/Bushnell-Trophy-TRS-25-Sight-Riflescope/dp/B00200E0HM/ref=sr_1_1?s=sporting-goods&ie=UTF8&qid=1502141897&sr=1-1&keywords=bushnell+red+dot

No magnification so if you are looking at shots past 100yards, you may want something different.  I find this to be faster than open sights.
Title: Re: .22 vs .223
Post by: PNWWARRIOR94 on September 03, 2017, 09:45:39 PM
Havent logged on in awhile thanks for all the great advice guys really appreciate it ill be doing research on the Leupold as far as bushnell ill probably make that my secondary as i run s 45 mount on my AR15 for a back up optic. .22mag will be my next toy thanks again!!!

Happy hunting boys!
Title: Re: .22 vs .223
Post by: Special T on September 05, 2017, 10:50:18 AM
If you haven't got a 45 degree mount for iron backups your missing out.... even the inexpensive ones work for those less than 100 yard shots.
Title: Re: .22 vs .223
Post by: Rob on September 05, 2017, 12:50:45 PM
Any decent 45 degree sites out there for a good price?  the limited searches I have done have returned results that were priced pretty steep.
Title: Re: .22 vs .223
Post by: Special T on September 05, 2017, 01:08:22 PM
For what your asking it to do hop on Amazon and buy a Chinese knock off for $40
Title: Re: .22 vs .223
Post by: syoungs on September 05, 2017, 01:09:43 PM
I've got a Burris. 1-4 on one of my Ar's, paid 200$for it in Cabela's bargaincave, one of the best optics I've run on an AR. On 1x it's like using a red dot, on 4x it's very clear, and has holdovers for standard 5.56 cartridges, out to 600 yds.

On the same gun I am running a set of 45deg backup irons ipaidless them 20$ for through amazon. They aren't as flashy as the high end stuff, but I've taken em out to 250yds on steel, and have had em 2.5 years now,through 2 different uppers. No reason to spend big line on back up irons if your life ain't on the line.