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Big Game Hunting => Bear Hunting => Topic started by: NOCK NOCK on September 18, 2017, 09:05:07 PM

Title: Too many berries
Post by: NOCK NOCK on September 18, 2017, 09:05:07 PM
 :chuckle: :chuckle: That's a size 13 boot.  :yike:
Title: Re: Too many berries
Post by: cougforester on September 18, 2017, 09:08:41 PM
Ouch.
Title: Re: Too many berries
Post by: Kit Carson on September 18, 2017, 09:13:36 PM
 :yike:
Title: Re: Too many berries
Post by: summertime blues on September 18, 2017, 10:48:54 PM
I took a pic of a pile next to my hand I thought was big. ....Nevermind
Title: Re: Too many berries
Post by: Angry Perch on September 21, 2017, 10:32:01 AM
Size 13 also.

Title: Re: Too many berries
Post by: n_mathews13 on September 22, 2017, 02:52:51 PM
I could be wrong , but I believe those come from a plant.
I always wondered what they were. Tracked a shot bear once and came across a small plant ( flower of some kind if I remember right)
Been wishing I had taken a pic of it ever since
We always call it fertilizer seeds
Title: Re: Too many berries
Post by: buckcanyonlodge on September 22, 2017, 02:59:47 PM
They look like mountain ash...Those trees with the big orange clusters of 'berries'.
Title: Re: Too many berries
Post by: Expedition Scout on September 23, 2017, 07:03:53 AM
Id say the first pile is kinnikinnick or more common name "Bear Berry". It's an edible low ground cover plant that likes drier forested areas with single red berries all over it.
Title: Re: Too many berries
Post by: Pegasus on September 23, 2017, 07:55:17 AM
That first pic is definitely mountain ash. Matching pic on this page: http://www.paquettescamp.com/blackbearhuntingtips.htm
Title: Re: Too many berries
Post by: n_mathews13 on September 27, 2017, 08:37:57 AM
The plant that i was thinkn of would fit the bear berry description
Title: Re: Too many berries
Post by: yakimanoob on September 27, 2017, 10:05:40 AM
That first pic is definitely mountain ash. Matching pic on this page: http://www.paquettescamp.com/blackbearhuntingtips.htm
Mountain Ash is not endemic to Washington, so if we're arguing about which red berry is in the poo, the nod goes to kinnikinnick/bearberry. 
Title: Re: Too many berries
Post by: buckcanyonlodge on September 27, 2017, 10:43:50 AM
That first pic is definitely mountain ash. Matching pic on this page: http://www.paquettescamp.com/blackbearhuntingtips.htm
Mountain Ash is not endemic to Washington, so if we're arguing about which red berry is in the poo, the nod goes to kinnikinnick/bearberry.

Lots of mountain ash in the Cascades. Norm Trapp from up on Stevens pass provided a horse packing service and I had him pack me in 5 times to the Frosty Pass-Marys Pass area. He said that after the hucks were gone the bear would start feeding on the Mountain Ash which were plentiful in the area. ALL the drainages had mountain ash. I've seen them, saw mountain ash berries in the poo , and would glass clumps of mountain ash trees/bushes for bear. Not arguing just plain simple facts.
Title: Re: Too many berries
Post by: PlateauNDN on September 27, 2017, 10:53:51 AM
Arguing over bear poo.  :chuckle: this is more exciting then the dumb Bennett thread. :tup:
Title: Re: Too many berries
Post by: runamuk on September 27, 2017, 10:57:48 AM
Arguing over bear poo.  :chuckle: this is more exciting then the dumb Bennett thread. :tup:

Bear poo and Bigfoot two top topics if you ask me.

The bears that keep leaving poo in the road have been chowing on apples and blackberries.  I do not know if bears poop in the woods but they sure as heck poop all over the roads.
Title: Re: Too many berries
Post by: n_mathews13 on September 27, 2017, 11:28:16 AM
I'm not arguing, always wondered what pit/seeds they are
Title: Re: Too many berries
Post by: buckcanyonlodge on September 27, 2017, 12:39:16 PM
That first pic is definitely mountain ash. Matching pic on this page: http://www.paquettescamp.com/blackbearhuntingtips.htm
Mountain Ash is not endemic to Washington, so if we're arguing about which red berry is in the poo, the nod goes to kinnikinnick/bearberry.

Lots of mountain ash in the Cascades. Norm Trapp from up on Stevens pass provided a horse packing service and I had him pack me in 5 times to the Frosty Pass-Marys Pass area. He said that after the hucks were gone the bear would start feeding on the Mountain Ash which were plentiful in the area. ALL the drainages had mountain ash. I've seen them, saw mountain ash berries in the poo , and would glass clumps of mountain ash trees/bushes for bear. Not arguing just plain simple facts.
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Title: Re: Too many berries
Post by: yakimanoob on September 27, 2017, 12:56:57 PM
Lots of mountain ash in the Cascades. Norm Trapp from up on Stevens pass provided a horse packing service and I had him pack me in 5 times to the Frosty Pass-Marys Pass area. He said that after the hucks were gone the bear would start feeding on the Mountain Ash which were plentiful in the area. ALL the drainages had mountain ash. I've seen them, saw mountain ash berries in the poo , and would glass clumps of mountain ash trees/bushes for bear. Not arguing just plain simple facts.

Indeed, I stand corrected.  http://science.halleyhosting.com/nature/basin/5petal/rose/mtash/casmtash.htm (http://science.halleyhosting.com/nature/basin/5petal/rose/mtash/casmtash.htm)

I was reading about mountain ash in a place that for some reason totally omitted that variety and said it was only Eastern North America and Eurasia.  That's what I get for trusting what I read online, I guess...
Title: Re: Too many berries
Post by: yakimanoob on September 27, 2017, 12:58:04 PM
But I mean come on.  We're TOTALLY arguing about bear poo.   :chuckle:
Title: Re: Too many berries
Post by: buckcanyonlodge on September 27, 2017, 01:54:26 PM
But I mean come on.  We're TOTALLY arguing about bear poo.   :chuckle:

Not arguing just trying to educate you :hello:

Now....what caused this bear to BLOW OUT the gravel where the poo impact was on the gravel road??  As seen in Holy Bear Crap thread a couple years ago. Size 10 boot.
Title: Re: Too many berries
Post by: Duckslayer89 on September 27, 2017, 02:16:39 PM
But I mean come on.  We're TOTALLY arguing about bear poo.   :chuckle:

Not arguing just trying to educate you :hello:

Now....what caused this bear to BLOW OUT the gravel where the poo impact was on the gravel road??  As seen in Holy Bear Crap thread a couple years ago. Size 10 boot.

Man I've been looking for that picture!!
Title: Re: Too many berries
Post by: PlateauNDN on September 27, 2017, 02:22:40 PM
It's a poop fight. :chuckle:
Title: Re: Too many berries
Post by: runamuk on September 27, 2017, 03:59:48 PM
Probably eating cascara berries or elderberry especially causing the poo explosion
Title: Re: Too many berries
Post by: buckcanyonlodge on September 27, 2017, 05:09:40 PM
Probably eating cascara berries or elderberry especially causing the poo explosion

Eating wild plums..Here is the tree limb the bear broke off while feeding and then took a dump. I drove past this spot an hour earlier going to a lease and on the way back the limb was broken off and the poo was in the road. You can see the shape of the bears butt where the poo splattered all around as it squatted. Can you just imagine the sound???
Title: Re: Too many berries
Post by: Angry Perch on September 27, 2017, 05:54:44 PM
I'd probably do the same thing if I ate 25 pounds of plumbs. Well, maybe not in the road, but...
Title: Re: Too many berries
Post by: runamuk on September 27, 2017, 07:05:22 PM
That's what he gets for being greedy
Title: Re: Too many berries
Post by: Pegasus on September 27, 2017, 07:49:27 PM
That first pic is definitely mountain ash. Matching pic on this page: http://www.paquettescamp.com/blackbearhuntingtips.htm
Mountain Ash is not endemic to Washington, so if we're arguing about which red berry is in the poo, the nod goes to kinnikinnick/bearberry.

Wrong!. Its mountain ash fur sure. Check the pics and take a hike in the mountains of WA. Its everywhere. That is definitely not kinnikinnick/bearberry. Kinnikinnick/bearberry is never orange.
Title: Re: Too many berries
Post by: n_mathews13 on September 27, 2017, 09:01:13 PM
Ok, next weekend I guess I'll do some plant watchn. Always willing to learn about bear food
Title: Re: Too many berries
Post by: yakimanoob on September 28, 2017, 08:28:32 AM
Wrong!. Its mountain ash fur sure. Check the pics and take a hike in the mountains of WA. Its everywhere. That is definitely not kinnikinnick/bearberry. Kinnikinnick/bearberry is never orange.
I've already recanted my sinful ways of berry-in-bear-poo identification.  :bow:
Title: Re: Too many berries
Post by: yakimanoob on September 28, 2017, 08:34:39 AM
I'd probably do the same thing if I ate 25 pounds of plumbs. Well, maybe not in the road, but...
If I ate 25lbs of plumbs, I'm not sure I'd have a choice of where it happened...  :yike:
Title: Re: Too many berries
Post by: Timberstalker on September 28, 2017, 08:57:24 AM
Talk about a blowout.  Wow. :yike:
Title: Re: Too many berries
Post by: jennabug on September 28, 2017, 01:40:15 PM
Probably eating cascara berries or elderberry especially causing the poo explosion

Eating wild plums..Here is the tree limb the bear broke off while feeding and then took a dump. I drove past this spot an hour earlier going to a lease and on the way back the limb was broken off and the poo was in the road. You can see the shape of the bears butt where the poo splattered all around as it squatted. Can you just imagine the sound???

 :lol4: oh my, rick, you had me laughing out loud in the office on this one!  :chuckle: :chuckle: :chuckle:
Title: Re: Too many berries
Post by: NOCK NOCK on September 28, 2017, 02:56:18 PM
I cant believe this has gone 2 pages.........especially the arguing about the berries.  :dunno: :dunno:

So lets clear it all up. Although I know what berries were in this poo, I wanted to be POSITIVE, so I popped a few in my mouth for a good ol taste test, besides it kinda looked like fruit cake(see crop pic below)
Welllll it didn't taste like fruit cake..........tasted like crap.  :yike:









PS: FYI, FWIW several kinds of berries were in this bears diet,  2 of which were both mentioned in this thread.  :twocents: :twocents:
Title: Re: Too many berries
Post by: mossy8352 on September 28, 2017, 03:29:06 PM
Hey Rick you have shown me more bear scat on your leases then I want to admit going to call you next week!!
Title: Re: Too many berries
Post by: buckcanyonlodge on September 28, 2017, 03:46:41 PM
Hey Rick you have shown me more bear scat on your leases then I want to admit going to call you next week!!

Yea, and I think you are in one of the pics!! the same place where the sow chased the cubs up the tree and you guys videoed it.

Title: Re: Too many berries
Post by: n_mathews13 on September 28, 2017, 05:07:28 PM
I'm sorry if it came across as if I was questioning anyone.  My friends make fun of me,cause when we walk up on crap, I am always picking it apart and wanting to learn more of the food source. I've actually have meant to ask before on hear about this. And I came across a plant ( can't remember what it looked like) that had these type seeds in it.
Again, didn't want to say who was wrong. My bad
Title: Re: Too many berries
Post by: Okanagan on September 28, 2017, 05:13:00 PM
I watched a bear in the subalpine yesterday that was feeding on red berries of a plant that I assumed was sumac but it didn't look quite right and I'd never seen a bear eat sumac.  After reading here and doing some checking, I think that it was likely mountain ash.  Red berries that were round and 1/4 to 3/8 inch diameter in kind of a flat or level arrangement near the top of the bush, which was usually shoulder to head high to me.  The leaves were generally green but many bushes were changing color toward orange, though sumac usually turns quite bright red if I recall correctly.  I'm no plant guy but will remember mountain ash.
Title: Re: Too many berries
Post by: mossy8352 on September 28, 2017, 05:39:04 PM
Rick your correct the sow tried to get us to follow her while the Cubs scampered up a tree. Great times in the woods for us and great memories. Also remember we came across rocks she turned over looking for food. And we were chasing turkeys that trip.
Title: Re: Too many berries
Post by: buckcanyonlodge on September 28, 2017, 05:58:23 PM
I'm sorry if it came across as if I was questioning anyone.  My friends make fun of me,cause when we walk up on crap, I am always picking it apart and wanting to learn more of the food source. I've actually have meant to ask before on hear about this. And I came across a plant ( can't remember what it looked like) that had these type seeds in it.
Again, didn't want to say who was wrong. My bad

I didn't take it that way..Nice to have a place we can get together and banter and even learn sometimes. I know I have. I see LOTS of bear crap-- even in my yard.
Title: Re: Too many berries
Post by: n_mathews13 on September 28, 2017, 07:09:07 PM
But now I feel like less of a bear hunter , since I've never tasted bear crap. Great, now I'm going to have to try it next time
Title: Re: Too many berries
Post by: yakimanoob on September 29, 2017, 09:19:03 AM
Guys.  We're talking about bear poo.  Sometimes it's fun to argue about silly things like bear poo. 

If anyone thought there was ANY upsetness or ill-will involved in the back-and-forth about which berries are in the poo, I only have this to say:

:llam:
Title: Re: Too many berries
Post by: n_mathews13 on September 29, 2017, 02:10:52 PM
Since we are talkn about it:
What's the craziest thing you've  discovered in bear poop?
Title: Re: Too many berries
Post by: pygmy1985 on September 29, 2017, 02:14:11 PM
I found a bear scat packed full of apricot pits. Looked painful! He was raiding someone's orchard in Loomis. 
Title: Re: Too many berries
Post by: saylean on September 29, 2017, 02:35:56 PM
Since we are talkn about it:
What's the craziest thing you've  discovered in bear poop?

Fawn hoof.
Title: Re: Too many berries
Post by: buckcanyonlodge on September 30, 2017, 03:30:52 AM
O.K  Tell me what this bear was eating. I'll post a pic of the tree/bush after a few guesses.
Title: Re: Too many berries
Post by: Pegasus on September 30, 2017, 08:12:07 AM
I think the bear caught a hunter eating a cranberry granola bar. Actually t looks like wild rose hips.
Title: Re: Too many berries
Post by: pygmy1985 on September 30, 2017, 02:56:11 PM
Native Washington pomegranates?
Title: Re: Too many berries
Post by: Lucky1 on September 30, 2017, 04:05:13 PM
Hope this is not a thread jack. Is this bear scat?
Title: Re: Too many berries
Post by: Stein on September 30, 2017, 04:07:10 PM
O.K  Tell me what this bear was eating. I'll post a pic of the tree/bush after a few guesses.

Mountain House - probably raided a campsite.
Title: Re: Too many berries
Post by: bowhunterforever on September 30, 2017, 04:19:19 PM
Wild rose hips and looks like some kinda grain in there too
Title: Re: Too many berries
Post by: buckcanyonlodge on October 01, 2017, 03:28:09 AM
Rose hips s right. No grain just rose seeds. Here is a pic of the plants he was feeding on. These one were very tasty. Sweet with lots of vitamin C
Title: Re: Too many berries
Post by: Humptulips on October 01, 2017, 03:28:11 PM
I'd probably do the same thing if I ate 25 pounds of plumbs. Well, maybe not in the road, but...

I bet if you ate 25 pounds of wild plums you would do it in the road or wherever you were when it hit you.  :chuckle: