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Title: Happening now in Olympia
Post by: PA BEN on February 02, 2018, 06:47:10 AM
http://www.ncwlife.com/rep-kretz-continues-campaign-for-wolf-relocation-legislation/
Title: Re: Happening now in Olympia
Post by: Bullkllr on February 02, 2018, 07:25:25 AM
Is this proposed legislation a good thing?

House Representative, Joel Kretz from Wauconda co-sponsored the legislation that, if passed, would direct the Department of Fish and Wildlife to relocate wolves to reduce conflicts in areas where known interactions have resulted in injury to livestock or dogs.

One can only imagine what kind of bill the WDFW could run up.
Title: Re: Happening now in Olympia
Post by: Special T on February 02, 2018, 07:30:11 AM
So is he implying that the love needs to be spread around to the west side and such?

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Title: Re: Happening now in Olympia
Post by: PA BEN on February 02, 2018, 07:35:13 AM
So is he implying that the love needs to be spread around to the west side and such?

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Yes
Title: Re: Happening now in Olympia
Post by: Ridgeratt on February 02, 2018, 07:35:27 AM
So is he implying that the love needs to be spread around to the west side and such?

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I think that's in line with the management plan in getting them to the west side!!  Since I am a burden on the working class I could make myself useful. I volunteer to haul a few. I would even buy my own fuel.
Title: Re: Happening now in Olympia
Post by: Sandberm on February 02, 2018, 07:36:04 AM
Dont they shoot problem wolves now?

Maybe the process of getting around to deciding that a wolf pack needs to be shot takes too long and he figures that relocating would go faster, and yes, relocate to King county might be what he suggests.
Title: Re: Happening now in Olympia
Post by: PA BEN on February 02, 2018, 06:15:59 PM
This is the 3rd time he's done this but the not in my back yard liberals shot it down.
Title: Re: Happening now in Olympia
Post by: Humptulips on February 02, 2018, 06:45:47 PM
Dont they shoot problem wolves now?

Maybe the process of getting around to deciding that a wolf pack needs to be shot takes too long and he figures that relocating would go faster, and yes, relocate to King county might be what he suggests.

You know darn good and well the wolves if relocated wouldn't go to King County. They would end up in Rural W WA like the Peninsula or SW WA. I hope they never get here. We have enough problems as it is.
Title: Re: Happening now in Olympia
Post by: Dan-o on February 02, 2018, 07:09:17 PM
I think it's hilarious.......

And I think he has every right to try to spread the love to the wolf lovers that insist on wolves in his part of the state.

I suspect that most of the wolf lovers don't want them in their backyards.....   Or wouldn't for long.

Title: Re: Happening now in Olympia
Post by: PA BEN on February 03, 2018, 08:41:14 AM
I think it's hilarious.......

And I think he has every right to try to spread the love to the wolf lovers that insist on wolves in his part of the state.

I suspect that most of the wolf lovers don't want them in their backyards.....   Or wouldn't for long.
 
 :yeah:
Title: Re: Happening now in Olympia
Post by: HighlandLofts on February 03, 2018, 08:48:23 AM
The islands are over run with deer, I suggest that they place them there.
Title: Re: Happening now in Olympia
Post by: chukarchaser on February 03, 2018, 09:13:01 AM
What would be the argument against doing this after all it supports the plan?
Title: Happening now in Olympia
Post by: jackelope on February 03, 2018, 09:54:11 AM
Dont they shoot problem wolves now?

Maybe the process of getting around to deciding that a wolf pack needs to be shot takes too long and he figures that relocating would go faster, and yes, relocate to King county might be what he suggests.

You know darn good and well the wolves if relocated wouldn't go to King County. They would end up in Rural W WA like the Peninsula or SW WA. I hope they never get here. We have enough problems as it is.

There are some big mountains and wide open country in King County. Plenty of room for a few wolves to be released LOL.
Title: Re: Happening now in Olympia
Post by: jackelope on February 03, 2018, 09:58:34 AM
All kidding aside, if there had to be some wolves in king county, the mountains and wilderness areas of the eastern part of the county would be the spot.  Very remote country there. Steep and deep. Cracks me up when people think that that isn’t a thing.

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Title: Re: Happening now in Olympia
Post by: PA BEN on February 04, 2018, 06:21:51 AM
The bill passed out of committee by a 12 to 3 vote.
Title: Re: Happening now in Olympia
Post by: Miles on February 04, 2018, 06:36:27 AM
All kidding aside, if there had to be some wolves in king county, the mountains and wilderness areas of the eastern part of the county would be the spot.  Very remote country there. Steep and deep. Cracks me up when people think that that isn’t a thing.

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“If there has to be”.  Lol. 

 Just think, this is a way for you and the city wolf lovers to protect more wolves from being “poached” on the east side. 
Title: Re: Happening now in Olympia
Post by: bobcat on February 04, 2018, 07:26:17 AM
The problem is wolves need to eat and I'm not sure they'd find enough deer in the Alpine Lakes Wilderness.
Title: Re: Happening now in Olympia
Post by: jackelope on February 04, 2018, 08:04:05 AM
All kidding aside, if there had to be some wolves in king county, the mountains and wilderness areas of the eastern part of the county would be the spot.  Very remote country there. Steep and deep. Cracks me up when people think that that isn’t a thing.

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“If there has to be”.  Lol. 

 Just think, this is a way for you and the city wolf lovers to protect more wolves from being “poached” on the east side.

Wow. What the heck is this supposed to mean?
Title: Re: Happening now in Olympia
Post by: Bullkllr on February 04, 2018, 08:21:01 AM
I'm not against this in theory, but consider:

How much did it cost for the state to contract out killing a few problem wolves?
How much did they spend on the consultant?
How much would it cost to live capture and relocate 1 wolf?
Title: Re: Happening now in Olympia
Post by: Miles on February 04, 2018, 08:29:54 AM
All kidding aside, if there had to be some wolves in king county, the mountains and wilderness areas of the eastern part of the county would be the spot.  Very remote country there. Steep and deep. Cracks me up when people think that that isn’t a thing.

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“If there has to be”.  Lol. 

 Just think, this is a way for you and the city wolf lovers to protect more wolves from being “poached” on the east side.

Wow. What the heck is this supposed to mean?

It means you should welcome the wolves with open arms, then put full faith in the state’s ability to manage them.   You know, the same kind of thing you and many others have been preaching to the east side residents.   

It’s a win/win for you.  Move over the at risk for being poached wolves, and protect them.  Then you can set an example for those lawbreaking east side poachers...  look at this as an opportunity to shine.
Title: Re: Happening now in Olympia
Post by: PolarBear on February 04, 2018, 08:33:08 AM
They have already moved wolves to Western, WA.
Title: Re: Happening now in Olympia
Post by: ctwiggs1 on February 04, 2018, 09:08:33 AM
@jackelope - Always fun when someone assumes you’re an enemy because you live in King County. 
Title: Re: Happening now in Olympia
Post by: Miles on February 04, 2018, 09:22:05 AM
@jackelope - Always fun when someone assumes you’re an enemy because you live in King County. 

Didn’t say he was an enemy.  I do follow and read his posts though.  He’s made his opinions well known.

Just a guess, but I’d be willing to bet there’s more wolf lovers in King county then there is in all of eastern Washington. 
Title: Re: Happening now in Olympia
Post by: jackelope on February 04, 2018, 11:16:26 AM
@jackelope - Always fun when someone assumes you’re an enemy because you live in King County. 

Didn’t say he was an enemy.  I do follow and read his posts though.  He’s made his opinions well known.

Just a guess, but I’d be willing to bet there’s more wolf lovers in King county then there is in all of eastern Washington.

Not sure why you or anyone would think I’m a wolf lover or have any interest in protecting them. I do believe in following the law as much as I may or may not like it and I have recently questioned the folks who were preaching SSS in a different thread.  Questioned or called them out is a better term maybe. It was made clear to me by more than one of them that it’s ok to shoot them as long as it’s someone else who does it. That makes me chuckle. Maybe that’s what’s bugging Miles. If I’m mistaken please explain otherwise where I’ve described myself as a wolf lover. I’ll be waiting.
Title: Re: Happening now in Olympia
Post by: Katmai Guy on February 04, 2018, 11:50:17 AM
I'm thinking it's all a legal ploy to get the wolf lovers 2 give reasons why not to have them in the western side of the state which would be able to allow the argument of the state has met the management plan and will allow delisting and a possible hunt. Just my  :twocents:.
Title: Re: Happening now in Olympia
Post by: PA BEN on February 05, 2018, 07:22:08 AM
I'm thinking it's all a legal ploy to get the wolf lovers 2 give reasons why not to have them in the western side of the state which would be able to allow the argument of the state has met the management plan and will allow delisting and a possible hunt. Just my  :twocents:.
Good point and as far as these guys preaching SSS wouldn't shoot a wolf, most if not all are all talk. Shooting 1 or 10 won't stop them we need to manage them by hunting them legally.
Title: Re: Happening now in Olympia
Post by: Skyvalhunter on February 05, 2018, 08:01:45 AM
Well that may be true but I am willing to bet Wa ends up the same predicament as those eastern states where wolves aren't taken delisted.
Title: Re: Happening now in Olympia
Post by: PA BEN on February 05, 2018, 08:14:05 AM
If the game Dept. would educate Olympia on these wolves instead of pandering to the liberals who feed their  budget we might get some where.
Title: Re: Happening now in Olympia
Post by: CAMPMEAT on February 05, 2018, 09:53:19 AM
If the game Dept. would educate Olympia on these wolves instead of pandering to the liberals who feed their  budget we might get some where.





I hate to say it, no I don't. You cannot educate a liberal..
Title: Re: Happening now in Olympia
Post by: jackelope on February 05, 2018, 10:05:03 AM
If the game Dept. would educate Olympia on these wolves instead of pandering to the liberals who feed their  budget we might get some where.

WDFW needs to learn to accept fact themselves before they can move onto educating others.
Title: Re: Happening now in Olympia
Post by: bigmacc on February 05, 2018, 10:47:42 AM
If the game Dept. would educate Olympia on these wolves instead of pandering to the liberals who feed their  budget we might get some where.





I hate to say it, no I don't. You cannot educate a liberal..

And they are NOT the game Dept,  If they were truly the Game Dept(like they were 15 or so years ago) we may not be having all these predator issues and we may not be watching some of our game herds go into death spirals.... :twocents:
Title: Re: Happening now in Olympia
Post by: Curly on February 05, 2018, 10:58:14 AM
If the game Dept. would educate Olympia on these wolves instead of pandering to the liberals who feed their  budget we might get some where.


I hate to say it, no I don't. You cannot educate a liberal..

And they are NOT the game Dept,  If they were truly the Game Dept(like they were 15 or so years ago) we may not be having all these predator issues and we may not be watching some of our game herds go into death spirals.... :twocents:

You are right about if they truly were the Game Dept. 

However, it has been quite a bit longer than 15 years since there was a game dept. 

In 1987 the Department of Game became the Dept of Wildlife.  Then in 1994 the Dept of Wildlife was merged with the Fisheries Dept and they became the nightmare we have today.

So, more like 24 years. :(
Title: Re: Happening now in Olympia
Post by: bigmacc on February 05, 2018, 12:55:19 PM
If the game Dept. would educate Olympia on these wolves instead of pandering to the liberals who feed their  budget we might get some where.


I hate to say it, no I don't. You cannot educate a liberal..

And they are NOT the game Dept,  If they were truly the Game Dept(like they were 15 or so years ago) we may not be having all these predator issues and we may not be watching some of our game herds go into death spirals.... :twocents:

You are right about if they truly were the Game Dept. 

However, it has been quite a bit longer than 15 years since there was a game dept. 

In 1987 the Department of Game became the Dept of Wildlife.  Then in 1994 the Dept of Wildlife was merged with the Fisheries Dept and they became the nightmare we have today.

So, more like 24 years. :(

Yep, you are right Curly, I meant to type 25 years or so (dang fat fingers :chuckle:) and yep ,if they were still the Game Department I,m sure things would be a lot different :tup:
Title: Re: Happening now in Olympia
Post by: wolfbait on February 06, 2018, 02:22:19 AM
If the game Dept. would educate Olympia on these wolves instead of pandering to the liberals who feed their  budget we might get some where.


I hate to say it, no I don't. You cannot educate a liberal..

And they are NOT the game Dept,  If they were truly the Game Dept(like they were 15 or so years ago) we may not be having all these predator issues and we may not be watching some of our game herds go into death spirals.... :twocents:

You are right about if they truly were the Game Dept. 

However, it has been quite a bit longer than 15 years since there was a game dept. 

In 1987 the Department of Game became the Dept of Wildlife.  Then in 1994 the Dept of Wildlife was merged with the Fisheries Dept and they became the nightmare we have today.

So, more like 24 years. :(

Yep, you are right Curly, I meant to type 25 years or so (dang fat fingers :chuckle:) and yep ,if they were still the Game Department I,m sure things would be a lot different :tup:

The "Game Department" changed to WDFW when they started partnering up with the fake environmental groups like CNW, DoW etc. .

I remember years ago the different areas where the Game Department fed the deer in the winters.

Now WDFW protect predators, and play pattycake with the fake environmental groups, while watching the decimation of the game herds. WDFW are a total disgrace!~
Title: Re: Happening now in Olympia
Post by: Skyvalhunter on February 06, 2018, 05:56:31 AM
When in your estimation did they become disgraceful?
Title: Re: Happening now in Olympia
Post by: grade-creek-rd on February 06, 2018, 07:12:05 AM
So let me get this right...in order for wolves to be de-listed they need to have X amount of breeding packs in X amount of areas in the state...I believe we have surpassed the required amount of breeding packs in numbers as well as total numbers of wolves but not the requirement of needing to be in the X amount of areas in the state, so if WDFW wants to take "problem" packs and transplant them to the void areas of the state this would rapidly increase the amount of time needed to "naturally" increase the X amount of areas...and we as hunters are supposed to think this is a bad thing?

I say plant them in SW WA, Olympics, NW WA and leave King Co alone...keep the liberals happy and when all of a sudden we have met all of the requirements for de-listing then we put into motion de-listing the wolves! We already have too many in the places that we like to hunt, so lets get this process going! They should be de-listed anyways, as WDFW say's that all wolves have been naturally re-introduced into WA and therefore the population is several hundred percent more than a 100 years ago anyway!

Grade
Title: Re: Happening now in Olympia
Post by: pianoman9701 on February 06, 2018, 08:18:33 AM
Dont they shoot problem wolves now?

Maybe the process of getting around to deciding that a wolf pack needs to be shot takes too long and he figures that relocating would go faster, and yes, relocate to King county might be what he suggests.
Keep in mind that it's estimated by most biologists and wolf experts that only 1 of 7 or 8 wolf attacks are attributed by the State F&W or USFWS to wolves. In the rest, there's either too little evidence or nothing left of the missing animal, even though wolf activity is prevalent in that area. Without proof, they won't issue a kill order for problem wolves. In WA, it's even harder because our commission and the WAG have been infiltrated with pro-wolf groups. More of that will be forthcoming as the WDFW administration continues to evolve.

I would support relocation of wolves, even to areas where I hunt in SW WA, if it meant delisting and some relief for the folks in the NE.
Title: Re: Happening now in Olympia
Post by: ctwiggs1 on February 06, 2018, 08:56:34 AM
Dont they shoot problem wolves now?

Maybe the process of getting around to deciding that a wolf pack needs to be shot takes too long and he figures that relocating would go faster, and yes, relocate to King county might be what he suggests.
Keep in mind that it's estimated by most biologists and wolf experts that only 1 of 7 or 8 wolf attacks are attributed by the State F&W or USFWS to wolves. In the rest, there's either too little evidence or nothing left of the missing animal, even though wolf activity is prevalent in that area. Without proof, they won't issue a kill order for problem wolves. In WA, it's even harder because our commission and the WAG have been infiltrated with pro-wolf groups. More of that will be forthcoming as the WDFW administration continues to evolve.

I would support relocation of wolves, even to areas where I hunt in SW WA, if it meant delisting and some relief for the folks in the NE.

 :yeah: :yeah:  I'm not wild about the idea of taking my kids hiking in areas with wolves, but something has to change here.
Title: Re: Happening now in Olympia
Post by: PA BEN on February 06, 2018, 11:23:11 AM
http://www.capitalpress.com/article/20180205/ARTICLE/180209950
Title: Re: Happening now in Olympia
Post by: bobcat on February 06, 2018, 12:34:17 PM
I could be wrong but I don't believe the wolf plan requires any wolves in western Washington. The plan stipulates a certain number of wolves in each "region," and the region that encompasses all of western Washington also includes the southern Cascades, with the northern boundary being Interstate 90. Again, I could be wrong but I think if there are the appropriate number of packs, or breeding pairs, or whatever it may be, south of I-90, but still east of the Cascade crest, let's say around the Naches area and/or the Klickitat area, then no wolves need to be living on the west side of the state in order to meet the requirements of the wolf plan and to begin the process of de-listing them.
Title: Re: Happening now in Olympia
Post by: KFhunter on February 06, 2018, 12:35:45 PM
I see how it is, what's good for the goose is good for the gander.   I still have that stock trailer just show me your backyard  :chuckle:
Title: Re: Happening now in Olympia
Post by: bobcat on February 06, 2018, 12:43:51 PM
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Here is a map showing the regions. I'm just not sure if the wolf plan calls for wolves to be distributed across each region, or does it matter?


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Title: Re: Happening now in Olympia
Post by: Ice Cap on February 06, 2018, 12:45:18 PM
I could be wrong but I don't believe the wolf plan requires any wolves in western Washington. The plan stipulates a certain number of wolves in each "region," and the region that encompasses all of western Washington also includes the southern Cascades, with the northern boundary being Interstate 90. Again, I could be wrong but I think if there are the appropriate number of packs, or breeding pairs, or whatever it may be, south of I-90, but still east of the Cascade crest, let's say around the Naches area and/or the Klickitat area, then no wolves need to be living on the west side of the state in order to meet the requirements of the wolf plan and to begin the process of de-listing them.
Three recovery regions were delineated for the state: (1) Eastern Washington, (2) Northern Cascades, and (3) Southern Cascades and Northwest Coast. Target numbers and distribution for downlisting and delisting within the three recovery regions are:

•To reclassify from state endangered to state threatened status: 6 successful breeding pairs present for 3 consecutive years, with 2 successful breeding pairs in each of the three recovery regions.


•To reclassify from state threatened to state sensitive status: 12 successful breeding pairs present for 3 consecutive years, with 4 successful breeding pairs in each of the three recovery regions.


•To delist from state sensitive status: 15 successful breeding pairs present for 3 consecutive years, with 4 successful breeding pairs in each of the three recovery regions and 3 successful breeding pairs anywhere in the state.


•In addition to the delisting objective of 15 successful breeding pairs distributed in the three geographic regions for 3 consecutive years, an alternative delisting objective is also established whereby the gray wolf will be considered for delisting when 18 successful breeding pairs are present, with 4 successful breeding pairs in the Eastern Washington region, 4 successful breeding pairs in the Northern Cascades region, 4 successful breeding pairs distributed in the Southern Cascades and Northwest Coast region, and 6 anywhere in the state.

Title: Re: Happening now in Olympia
Post by: emac on February 06, 2018, 05:36:57 PM
Pretty much sums it up that we will never hunt wolves in this state in any of are lifetimes

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Title: Re: Happening now in Olympia
Post by: jstone on February 06, 2018, 05:45:48 PM
Get rid of the Democrats.
Title: Re: Happening now in Olympia
Post by: Ridgeratt on February 06, 2018, 06:01:52 PM
So is he implying that the love needs to be spread around to the west side and such?

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I think that's in line with the management plan in getting them to the west side!! Since I am a burden on the working class I could make myself useful. I volunteer to haul a few. I would even buy my own fuel.


I see how it is, what's good for the goose is good for the gander.   I still have that stock trailer just show me your backyard  :chuckle:

I have some spare time.    :tup: :tup:
Title: Re: Happening now in Olympia
Post by: Mudman on February 06, 2018, 06:10:54 PM
 :bash: Just another reason to ignore the laws....  Even law enforcement know when something stinks.  Time to buy a camera and a hiking pass, welcome to Wa.  Deer and elk are endangered and Caribou extinct.  Ranchers bankrupt. Oh watchout for the Grizz they like hikers! :yike:
Title: Re: Happening now in Olympia
Post by: wolfbait on February 07, 2018, 12:25:49 PM
Washington House committee OKs bill to move wolves

http://www.capitalpress.com/article/20180205/ARTICLE/180209950
Title: Re: Happening now in Olympia
Post by: Curly on February 07, 2018, 12:30:33 PM
That sucks.  Would have been better to just delist them in the eastern third and treat them the same as coyotes.

When relocated wolves start killing, the blood will be on the hands of those voting for this. :twocents:
Title: Re: Happening now in Olympia
Post by: PA BEN on February 07, 2018, 12:33:02 PM
Washington House committee OKs bill to move wolves

http://www.capitalpress.com/article/20180205/ARTICLE/180209950
I posted the same link yesterday. I for one am glad it's moving forward.
Title: Re: Happening now in Olympia
Post by: hhack on February 08, 2018, 10:00:49 AM
Kretz is either corrupt as can be or just plain dumb.  We will never get to legally hunt wolves in Washington look at Minnesota and Wisconsin much more reasonable states politically and they can’t even manage there wolves and they are completely over run. Releasing wolves into other people’s back yard is completely wrong.
Title: Re: Happening now in Olympia
Post by: Ridgeratt on February 08, 2018, 10:10:37 AM
Washington House committee OKs bill to move wolves

http://www.capitalpress.com/article/20180205/ARTICLE/180209950
I posted the same link yesterday. I for one am glad it's moving forward.

Pa Ben I am also glad to see this moving forward. The time line of 2020 could be sooner since they already have an idea where to find them on this side. 
Title: Re: Happening now in Olympia
Post by: KFhunter on February 08, 2018, 10:26:00 AM
Kretz is either corrupt as can be or just plain dumb.  We will never get to legally hunt wolves in Washington look at Minnesota and Wisconsin much more reasonable states politically and they can’t even manage there wolves and they are completely over run. Releasing wolves into other people’s back yard is completely wrong.

You don't understand what a symbolic bill is, and it's working.  People in Seattle are talking about this now, they're crapping their drawers thinking oh crap I might have a wolf in MY back yard!
Title: Re: Happening now in Olympia
Post by: Special T on February 08, 2018, 10:46:12 AM
Kretz is either corrupt as can be or just plain dumb.  We will never get to legally hunt wolves in Washington look at Minnesota and Wisconsin much more reasonable states politically and they can’t even manage there wolves and they are completely over run. Releasing wolves into other people’s back yard is completely wrong.

You don't understand what a symbolic bill is, and it's working.  People in Seattle are talking about this now, they're crapping their drawers thinking oh crap I might have a wolf in MY back yard!
Yes, sometimes you have to propose something crazy so that others will see the situation for what it is.

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Title: Re: Happening now in Olympia
Post by: Special T on February 08, 2018, 10:49:40 AM
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Here is a map showing the regions. I'm just not sure if the wolf plan calls for wolves to be distributed across each region, or does it matter?


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This map is quite instructive. They only need to document 3 more packs state wide or 2 in the south cascades.  Do you really think there are gaps that large between lacks in the N cascades? Dobyou think there are none south of 90?

We are being slow plaid, and it is obvious to anyone whom can see.

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Title: Re: Happening now in Olympia
Post by: KFhunter on February 08, 2018, 10:54:39 AM
slow played for sure, we have way more than whats necessary to delist
Title: Re: Happening now in Olympia
Post by: hhack on February 08, 2018, 02:38:30 PM
Kretz is either corrupt as can be or just plain dumb.  We will never get to legally hunt wolves in Washington look at Minnesota and Wisconsin much more reasonable states politically and they can’t even manage there wolves and they are completely over run. Releasing wolves into other people’s back yard is completely wrong.

You don't understand what a symbolic bill is, and it's working.  People in Seattle are talking about this now, they're crapping their drawers thinking oh crap I might have a wolf in MY back yard!

You have it all confused liberal hippies are super excited. The sportsman and hunters in western wa are they ones against it getting screwed.
Title: Re: Happening now in Olympia
Post by: nwwanderer on February 08, 2018, 03:12:37 PM
Go talk to Joel and review his predators in politics record.  I bet you will support him.
Title: Re: Happening now in Olympia
Post by: Thefishguy77 on February 08, 2018, 03:37:08 PM
Dont they shoot problem wolves now?

Maybe the process of getting around to deciding that a wolf pack needs to be shot takes too long and he figures that relocating would go faster, and yes, relocate to King county might be what he suggests.

You know darn good and well the wolves if relocated wouldn't go to King County. They would end up in Rural W WA like the Peninsula or SW WA. I hope they never get here. We have enough problems as it is.


They are already here. I have on more than one occasion seen tracks this winter in the GPNF.  On time they were very fresh, 2 sets, and a group of doe’s were very nervous.


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Title: Re: Happening now in Olympia
Post by: bearpaw on February 09, 2018, 06:11:22 PM
Go talk to Joel and review his predators in politics record.  I bet you will support him.

 :yeah:
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