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Title: Pending New SCI World Record Mule Deer
Post by: Slider on March 29, 2009, 07:12:48 PM
Look at the forks on this guy!!!  :o

http://www.huntingreport.com/worldupdate.cfm?articleid=433
Title: Re: Pending New SCI World Record Mule Deer
Post by: 400out on March 29, 2009, 07:19:34 PM
Man what a monster!!!!!!!! :drool:
Title: Re: Pending New SCI World Record Mule Deer
Post by: popeshawnpaul on March 29, 2009, 07:40:43 PM
Big, but not as big as I expected.   :dunno:
Title: Re: Pending New SCI World Record Mule Deer
Post by: jackelope on March 29, 2009, 07:44:40 PM
great buck, but like pope said...not as big as expected. a fair number of bucks bigger than that get killed every year. why would someone choose to score their buck SCI and not B/C ? don't get me wrong 226 is a pig...

because it's easier to be record material? i don't know...not a jab but a question.
Title: Re: Pending New SCI World Record Mule Deer
Post by: jjhunter on March 29, 2009, 07:54:44 PM
Maybe for SCI, but doesn't hold a candle to some of the greatest typicals killed.  209" net B&C (not official) in Muley Crazy (inflated scores).  The Burris buck nets nearly 20 more inches.  Still a great deer, though.
Title: Re: Pending New SCI World Record Mule Deer
Post by: huntnphool on March 29, 2009, 08:13:35 PM
Wow :yike: thats a beauty, love those boxey bucks
Title: Re: Pending New SCI World Record Mule Deer
Post by: ihunt on March 29, 2009, 08:16:04 PM
That is a toad  :yike:
Title: Re: Pending New SCI World Record Mule Deer
Post by: actionshooter on March 29, 2009, 08:19:15 PM
Big, but not as big as I expected.   :dunno:
I agree, a little surprised. With that being said, well beyond anything I have layed eyes on.
Title: Re: Pending New SCI World Record Mule Deer
Post by: Pathfinder101 on March 29, 2009, 10:09:18 PM
Big, but not as big as I expected.   :dunno:
I agree, a little surprised. With that being said, well beyond anything I have layed eyes on.

 :yeah:
Title: Re: Pending New SCI World Record Mule Deer
Post by: Thenewguy on March 29, 2009, 10:13:51 PM
You guys must see some huge bucks to not think that is an absolute toad!
Title: Re: Pending New SCI World Record Mule Deer
Post by: Pathfinder101 on March 29, 2009, 10:16:27 PM
I think everyone would agree it is a toad.  I am sure that all of us would sell our eyeteeth for a shot at a buck like that.  I think we all are a little suprised that a 226" buck is the pending SCI World Record though... :dunno:  I would have sworn they have scored bigger bucks than that.
Title: Re: Pending New SCI World Record Mule Deer
Post by: huntnphool on March 29, 2009, 10:33:13 PM
not going to see a typical much bigger than that in any book
Title: Re: Pending New SCI World Record Mule Deer
Post by: andrew_12gauge on March 30, 2009, 08:05:49 AM
that buck would only gross score about 6 inches less than the burris buck which is the current b&c #1 typical but in b&c he gets killed by the inline on the left antler and the cheater on the right thats why he scores well on sci and wouldnt score well b&c
Title: Re: Pending New SCI World Record Mule Deer
Post by: Slider on March 30, 2009, 08:32:37 AM
Bone put your rackometer on that buck and tell me how wide he is.  :)
Title: Re: Pending New SCI World Record Mule Deer
Post by: boneaddict on March 30, 2009, 08:42:36 AM
somebody needs to prop up his ears. LOL

I think I need to go spend a week in the Henry's shooting some "film". 
Title: Re: Pending New SCI World Record Mule Deer
Post by: boneaddict on March 30, 2009, 09:12:17 AM
I figure 25-26 on the frame.  They must be counting that stupid kicker.  There is NO WAY he is 29 inches.   I wonder how he would measure up with Boone?
Title: Re: Pending New SCI World Record Mule Deer
Post by: Slider on March 30, 2009, 09:41:21 AM
not going to see a typical much bigger than that in any book

Yea what Phool said!!! The reason he may look small is because he is not wide. And because it is a front view and you really can't see the depth of his forks. He is a Giant Typical!!!
Title: Re: Pending New SCI World Record Mule Deer
Post by: boneaddict on March 30, 2009, 09:47:23 AM
I don't think that angle gives you the full appreciation of what his g4s look like.  They are absolutely INCREDIBLE.  I also think with that score, his mains are probably longer that what the picture shows.
Title: Re: Pending New SCI World Record Mule Deer
Post by: Pathfinder101 on March 30, 2009, 09:53:32 AM
I see what you mean.  The picture is deceiving because of the angle and the ears.  He only looks about as wide as his ears though (even if they were propped up), but the text says he is 29" wide not counting the cheater. 
I guess 226" is outlandish for a typical.  Lots of higher scoring deer out there, but all non-typicals.
Title: Re: Pending New SCI World Record Mule Deer
Post by: boneaddict on March 30, 2009, 09:57:23 AM
I still think its  :liar: that its 29 (without the cheater).  If he is, better show Charlie this guys cape as he has record book EARS.  The money I have left after Obama has had his hands in my pockets is that its 26.
Title: Re: Pending New SCI World Record Mule Deer
Post by: Pathfinder101 on March 30, 2009, 10:01:57 AM
If he is, better show Charlie this guys cape as he has record book EARS.
:yeah:
...Maybe a new SCI Category...?
Title: Re: Pending New SCI World Record Mule Deer
Post by: jackelope on March 30, 2009, 10:29:21 AM
I figure 25-26 on the frame.  They must be counting that stupid kicker.  There is NO WAY he is 29 inches.   I wonder how he would measure up with Boone?

209 and change unofficial
Title: Re: Pending New SCI World Record Mule Deer
Post by: boneaddict on March 30, 2009, 10:35:50 AM
I certainyl could buy that with those forks. I figured a hair or two over 200.  I'm trying to see if he has 2 eyeguards or not. 
Title: Re: Pending New SCI World Record Mule Deer
Post by: huntnphool on March 30, 2009, 12:34:25 PM
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I guess 226" is outlandish for a typical.  Lots of higher scoring deer out there, but all non-typicals.

Exactly!!

 and 29" has to be including the cheater, love those G4's though.
Title: Re: Pending New SCI World Record Mule Deer
Post by: Bigshooter on March 30, 2009, 12:41:02 PM
The same picture is on the cover of Muley Heaven Two, I believe.  He looks big on the cover but in the video he looks huge.
Title: Re: Pending New SCI World Record Mule Deer
Post by: Slider on March 30, 2009, 02:29:02 PM
The difference between Boone and Crockett and S.C.I. is basically B.C. scoring system tries to make a PERFECT rack out of the animals antler's while it's being scored. S.C.I. doesn't.

Basically, the difference between SCI scoring and B&C scoring, is that SCI does not deduct for horns or antlers not being symmetrical.

Where this hurts the score is the case where a point or tine exists on one one side, but the corresponding point either didn't grow as long or was broken on the other side. Under the B&C scoring, the lengths of both of these points would be entered, then the difference in their length would be subtracted from the sub-total. Under the SCI scoring, the lengths of both of these points would be entered, and there would not be any deductions.

For Typical entries, under B&C, lengths of non-typical points are entered, then subtracted. Under SCI scoring, lengths of non-typical points are only entered in the supplemental information section and are not included in the total score. Basically, under both systems, only typical measurements are counted for the total score.
Title: Re: Pending New SCI World Record Mule Deer
Post by: Pathfinder101 on March 30, 2009, 03:09:46 PM
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I guess 226" is outlandish for a typical.  Lots of higher scoring deer out there, but all non-typicals.

Exactly!!

 and 29" has to be including the cheater, love those G4's though.

Text says that the spread is 29" NOT including the cheater.  Doesn't look right to me either. 
Title: Re: Pending New SCI World Record Mule Deer
Post by: jjhunter on March 30, 2009, 04:52:34 PM
I can think of two typical frames off the top of my head that would dwarf this buck.  The bigfoot buck (40" frame buck shot by Dennis Winch) has a 238" ish typical frame.  The Mundy buck has the largest typical frame ever at 246" - it nets 238"!  No comparison.  Some of the largest typical frames are hidden in B&C under the non-typical category.   This buck is supposed to net 209" - I doubt it.  There are a bunch of deer that beat it either way.
Title: Re: Pending New SCI World Record Mule Deer
Post by: huntnphool on March 30, 2009, 08:18:15 PM
Where did you guys get the 209 score from, I dont see any reference to it on the page. If that thing grosses 226" I don't see 17" of deductions either. Not that it matters but I prefer the SCI scoring myself, if the buck grows it I think it should be counted, as far as B&C goes I pay little attention to the net, I go by gross :twocents:
Title: Re: Pending New SCI World Record Mule Deer
Post by: jackelope on March 30, 2009, 08:26:32 PM
he's a mossback buck too...
mossbacks site says he is 236 gross 226 net.
scroll down to the bottom.
http://mossback.com/Home/html/2008_bucks.html

i just read where one of the other guys posted earlier in the thread he was 209 net.  :dunno: jjhunter maybe?
Title: Re: Pending New SCI World Record Mule Deer
Post by: jackelope on March 30, 2009, 08:31:03 PM
Maybe for SCI, but doesn't hold a candle to some of the greatest typicals killed.  209" net B&C (not official) in Muley Crazy (inflated scores).  The Burris buck nets nearly 20 more inches.  Still a great deer, though.
Title: Re: Pending New SCI World Record Mule Deer
Post by: huntnphool on March 30, 2009, 08:38:12 PM
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mossbacks site says he is 236 gross 226 net.

Thats more like it
Title: Re: Pending New SCI World Record Mule Deer
Post by: jackelope on March 30, 2009, 08:40:04 PM
i think what jjhunter is saying is muleycrazy magazine has him at 209. if you like at the website it's the cover shot and i can barely make it out.
Title: Re: Pending New SCI World Record Mule Deer
Post by: Hornseeker on March 31, 2009, 02:26:24 PM
(http://www.huntingreport.com/images2/temp/EME-3-13-2009-Del-Brady-Mule-Deer.jpg)

Why not have a pic.... :rolleyes:
29...not inside..thats for dern shur... outside.... not likely huh?? However..I easily believe 209 net and if he is 209 net... you guys that say he's not that special are smoking CRACK DAILY... take a looksy in the book and tell me how many bucks score more than 209....

 :dunno: :chuckle:
Title: Re: Pending New SCI World Record Mule Deer
Post by: jjhunter on March 31, 2009, 03:24:47 PM
Not saying he is not special - just saying he is not #1  :chuckle:
Title: Re: Pending New SCI World Record Mule Deer
Post by: Pathfinder101 on March 31, 2009, 03:39:10 PM
OK, so I took a piece of paper and marked out the width of the 4 fingers on his right hand.  Then I used that as a scale (assuming his 4 fingers are approximately 4 inches across), and measured the width.  I came up with a touch over 7 lengths (not counting the inline kicker).  I guess that would be around 29" outside spread.    Try it.

And, like stated above, no one is saying that it isn't a huge buck, I just think some of us are suprised it is #1 SCI.  Did someone say it "was not that special"?  I must have missed that post.  I'll go back and look.
Title: Re: Pending New SCI World Record Mule Deer
Post by: huntnphool on March 31, 2009, 04:38:26 PM
Hey PF, looks to me like his widest point is outside his g3's. I took a tape to my hand around a couple of my racks, the guy doesn't look any bigger than me and my hands came out at 3 1/2" Then I measured it out on the screen and came up with about 7.5 hands across and came up with 26.25" If you look at his hand it is closer to the camera than the g3's as well which would make his hand a little larger. If you move it back to the g3 area it may just hit that 29" width, :dunno: hard for me to beleive its that wide looking at those ears though. Either way its a toad of a typical :tup:
Title: Re: Pending New SCI World Record Mule Deer
Post by: Pathfinder101 on March 31, 2009, 04:46:32 PM
Phool, that may be more accurate than what I did.  I laid a ruler accross my knuckles and got 3 3/4", but I have small hands, so I figured his at 4".  I had my hand laid flat though.  I guess it would be less with a fist.
Title: Re: Pending New SCI World Record Mule Deer
Post by: Slider on March 31, 2009, 04:50:47 PM
I'm not sure that Buck is 29" outside with the Kicker!!!  :dunno:
Title: Re: Pending New SCI World Record Mule Deer
Post by: Pathfinder101 on March 31, 2009, 05:02:20 PM
Even so... If I shot that buck, I would have the same look on my face that the dude in the picture has.  And I don't think I would be able to get it off for a few months :chuckle:
Title: Re: Pending New SCI World Record Mule Deer
Post by: huntnphool on March 31, 2009, 05:08:34 PM
A few months? I think I would hang the rifle up and just take pics from that point on, he will never top it fair chase.
Title: Re: Pending New SCI World Record Mule Deer
Post by: Moosehunt on March 31, 2009, 05:14:53 PM
It's obvious that some people do not enter their trophies in SCI.  I just looked at the SCI virtual record book and can not find some of the names mentioned in previous posts. 
Title: Re: Pending New SCI World Record Mule Deer
Post by: jackelope on March 31, 2009, 05:34:25 PM
It's obvious that some people do not enter their trophies in SCI.  I just looked at the SCI virtual record book and can not find some of the names mentioned in previous posts. 

they are in the boone and crockett books.
Title: Re: Pending New SCI World Record Mule Deer
Post by: Moosehunt on March 31, 2009, 06:05:21 PM
I know.  Point was that neither book was a complete, end all/be all record of every big animal taken.  That's all.
Title: Re: Pending New SCI World Record Mule Deer
Post by: Slider on March 31, 2009, 08:49:02 PM
Bone put your rackometer on this typical buck and tell me how wide he is?
Title: Re: Pending New SCI World Record Mule Deer
Post by: huntnphool on March 31, 2009, 08:54:40 PM
why does that look photoshoped Slider :chuckle:

I'm guessing 33 1/2
Title: Re: Pending New SCI World Record Mule Deer
Post by: Slider on March 31, 2009, 09:24:03 PM
I don't know I just took the pic yesterday?  :rolleyes:
Title: Re: Pending New SCI World Record Mule Deer
Post by: Pathfinder101 on March 31, 2009, 09:29:11 PM
That buck is "wet dream" big... :yike: 
You could un-photoshop 30 inches off him and I'd still piss myself...
Title: Re: Pending New SCI World Record Mule Deer
Post by: huntnphool on March 31, 2009, 10:16:49 PM
I don't know I just took the pic yesterday?  :rolleyes:

That explains it then, graveyard buck :chuckle:
Title: Re: Pending New SCI World Record Mule Deer
Post by: jackelope on April 01, 2009, 10:00:33 AM
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That explains it then, graveyard buck

 :chuckle:
Title: Re: Pending New SCI World Record Mule Deer
Post by: boneaddict on April 01, 2009, 10:06:42 AM
I need to to see if Kings did an OK job.  Kinda why I am skeptical about half the scores posted on here including the April Fools shed considering as stated it would blow that buck off the top in a heartbeat, and just not sure it has the inches.
Title: Re: Pending New SCI World Record Mule Deer
Post by: boneaddict on April 01, 2009, 10:09:43 AM
by the way, 31 inside is pretty frickin awesome in that kind of configuration (meaning not sweeping) 
Title: Re: Pending New SCI World Record Mule Deer
Post by: Slider on April 01, 2009, 11:00:28 AM
Bone Kings didn't do it Dawayne Dewey did. Here is the link!!!

http://www.deweywildlife.com/photogalleries.cfm?id=95
Title: Re: Pending New SCI World Record Mule Deer
Post by: Pathfinder101 on April 01, 2009, 11:19:48 AM
Is that site considered pornography? :chuckle:  I may get into trouble linking to it from my work computer...
Title: Re: Pending New SCI World Record Mule Deer
Post by: huntnphool on April 01, 2009, 12:22:03 PM
hornography, you're okay ;)
Title: Re: Pending New SCI World Record Mule Deer
Post by: jackelope on April 01, 2009, 12:27:16 PM
why does that look photoshoped Slider :chuckle:

I'm guessing 33 1/2

i'm guessing 33 1/4 but my knuckles are wider than yours...

 :dunno:
Title: Re: Pending New SCI World Record Mule Deer
Post by: huntnphool on April 01, 2009, 01:02:13 PM
 :chuckle:
Title: Re: Pending New SCI World Record Mule Deer
Post by: Stevo539 on April 01, 2009, 03:28:18 PM
I bet that dude couldn't get that goofy grin off his face for weeks after shooting that.
Title: Re: Pending New SCI World Record Mule Deer
Post by: twisp_river_slayer on April 01, 2009, 04:26:00 PM
that things a monster!!!
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