Hunting Washington Forum

Can’t speak to table fair in that area but close to home is a huge bonus for hunting opportunities

Also,  I remember when hearing you killed a 4pt was the Mecca.  But watched my own hunting party harvest a 4pt that aged at 2-3.  My Opinion,  if you go out of state in an area known for trophy class bucks.  Don’t shoot the small 4’s.  If you don’t find the big buck you are looking for take the management buck.  Those are the ones that are not the perfectly symmetrical 4x4.  Ever wonder why guides in other states offer discounted hunts for management bucks?  Start your google search in Wyoming.  The management bucks are great but never a 4x4.  The genes stay fairly intact

This thread was started in reference to what is legal in I presume western Washington any buck GMU's.  Meaning blacktail bucks.  And in that regard, it is not at all factual that 1.5 year old spikes are genetically inferior, some are, some are not.  1.5 year old spikes is just what you get.  Genetics, nutrition, date of birth, etc. can be the difference between barely having a visible antler and having 4 - 6 inch spikes but by and large they do not stay spikes.

You will never see a 4 pt 1.5 year old blacktail buck which you mention.  You talk about out of state deer and management bucks, this isn't The Bucks of Tecomate.

The Bucks of tecomate.......lol
Management buck...... Right into roast.....lol
Washington breeds dinks for licence sales ,any buck is better than tag soup.
I've asked for APR in units before, answer is always.....NO

As we stand as of 11/16 a little short from past years.

Taxation in 1855, per the googler. 

"The concept of specific "roadway taxes" as they exist today (like fuel taxes or vehicle weight fees) did not exist in their modern form at that time. Modern motor vehicle fuel taxes in Washington are user-based charges that only began to develop much later in the 20th century.
A notable legal point related to this era is that an 1855 treaty with the Yakama Nation preserved their right to travel upon all public highways, which has been interpreted by modern courts to preempt the state's current fuel tax as applied to tribal members importing fuel for reservation sale. This historical context highlights the general nature of taxation during that period compared to contemporary, specific-use taxes."



"Interpreted" is the big word in most ALL native treaty rights. ONLY those who were involved in the writing/signing know intention...AT/FOR THAT TIME.
There is zero chance back then that any of those involved had the foresight to see where the world would be in the future...ZERO!



I get that things were done back then that are now deemed unacceptable, (Were they unacceptable at that time era?) but that was then..........
NOW is different.  I strongly believe that as a whole, folks treat each other much better and have way more respect for other cultures/beliefs/way of life.

To continue to dwell in the past, and use that as an advantage, to have different rights than others, sure seems like "special privileges"(not rights) to me. I'm not saying Assimilation is the answer but maybe try FORGIVING what ALL our forefathers did wrong in the past and learn from it. Try to get along with others who had nothing to do with what happened back then.

If it is equality that is wanted, then folks must want to be equal. If its special rights you want, I do not see that as ever wanting to change for the better.

  .......gonna have to change that too "two nickels worth" 

My son shot a 3-point that was walking thru a clear cut at 12:30 PM on Thursday.

Friday we saw spikes running does , but no branch antlered bucks.