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Trail Cameras / Re: Idaho on the verge of outlawing
« Last post by ganghis on Today at 09:13:05 PM »

How about mounted turrets next to your cell cam that are linked to a joystick next to your lounge chair?  That way, you can kill game without even leaving your couch.  Then we can debate how regular hunters shouldn't denigrate joystick hunters because it's "hunter against hunter"?  This the bull feces is getting old.  Let's just ban this crap and get back to hunting like we used to do.  Spending time in the woods after reading signs on the ground and putting meat on the table when we are lucky or put in the effort.   

That said, I'll probably put up some regular cams this weekend just to look at activity.  If banned, I'll abide by that.  So I'm a bit two-faced I guess.

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Trail Cameras / Re: Idaho on the verge of outlawing
« Last post by CarbonHunter on Today at 08:33:47 PM »
Heck we’re 8 pages in so far and the only legitimate reason that has been provided as to why they should be allowed is for watching traps. No one else has even provided a reason for the group to consider… 

I would love for the pro cell camera side to provide a reason why I should change my stance. I’m listening.

Really? Come on dude what data have you KARENs provided to show all your hypotheticals are actually factual. Nothing other than guys flapping their gums. Where’s the studies?

If you don’t like the technology don’t use it. Not hard to do. Don’t try to fix a problem that isn’t a problem.

So basically you have no reasons beyond you “want to and don’t tell us what we can do” so now you will just result to name calling?

I’m not trying to get these cell cameras banned but if Idaho wants to ban them I have no problem with them doing that and I do not see how it could possibly harm the sport of hunting. And for those of you who feel so strongly different from my point of view… please provide a reason why I should feel differently. So far the only legitimate reason I have seen is for trapping.
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Trail Cameras / Re: Idaho on the verge of outlawing
« Last post by hughjorgan on Today at 08:01:41 PM »
So does Idaho have data that supports an increase take of critters due to cell cameras or is everyone just hypothetically crying the sky is falling and we must do something? This whole issue seems to be trying to solve a problem that doesn’t seem to exist but there is a vocal minority that wants to be the ethics police for everyone.

There's some data out there I'd have to dig up again
Quite a few articles on the issue as well.
This isn't a new issue..it's just something that needs to be addressed before it gets out of control.
Is their a negative opinion of states that already have restrictions like Arizona, Nevada, Utah, Montana and Kansas just to name a few ...

Idahos data doesn’t bear out what all the hypothetical conjecture is saying this is giving hunters an unfair advantage. Harvest isn’t trending up at all with cell cams become mainstream over this time period.

Honestly dude these data don't say anything other than the population is going down.  Harvest numbers are a confluence of a number of things, and with those alone you can't answer the question you want to answer.

You’re just furthering my point because there is NO DATA just peoples opinions and that is good enough for guys to tell others they shouldn’t be able to hunt how they want.

There’s a number of people on here that don’t embrace tech and by doing so is self regulating. We don’t need the government stepping in every time a KAREN doesn’t like the way someone is hunting.

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Trapping / Re: Color phase fox
« Last post by Loup Loup on Today at 07:57:20 PM »
This is a different cross. Not the best pic, but you can visualize the cross.
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Deer Hunting / Re: CWD drop of station- What a joke!
« Last post by ganghis on Today at 07:50:49 PM »
I have mixed feelings on my experience. The good side of things was that there were multiple locations to drop off the samples that were easy to find and well marked. The bad side was that there was no in person sites since general deer season hadn't started yet and also really no directions on how to get to the lymph nodes. We tried watching a few youtube videos that each showed different ways of getting to them. Honestly, I don't even know if what I got was the actual lymph nodes but I put in the little envelope what we guessed were them so we did our part. Bigger picture, do I think doing all this will make a lick of difference with how they manage the herds, that is a big fat negative.
Same here with lymph nodes.  They're not as easy to find as the videos show.  I did my sister's and my son's buck.  Pretty sure I got both the glands on my sister's deer, but on my son's I got three things that looked like a lymph node.  I bagged all three.  :dunno: Hope I did it right, but clearly I'm not 100% sure.  I'm not turning in the heads, we did euros on both bucks.


Ha ha, I did the same thing in Idaho a few years ago!  3 "lymph nodes" in a bag, but hey I still got a result (negative, fortunately).  Whatever you/I did seemed to work.  I also watched a video beforehand and then a second time on one of the pack outs and actually went back to the carcass to root around a little more.
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Out Of State Hunting / Re: Wyoming elk who's in?
« Last post by ganghis on Today at 07:46:14 PM »
We returned Sunday from 10 days in SW Wyoming. Our group filled our 3 cow tags and also 4 antelope buck tags.
We witnessed some amazing rut action! Saw around 30-35 bulls in 4 days.
My wife took her cow out of a herd of 35 elk with 10 being bulls.
335 yards shot with her .270 Win. Using 150 grain Nosler Partitions.
All 4 of us vowed to go back and do this hunt again as soon as possible. It was a blast!

Awesome, sounds like a good time!  I've thought about combining elk w/ antelope there but have been a little reluctant... how'd the timing work out for you?  Prioritize elk first?  How'd you play the seasons?
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Deer Hunting / Re: Rylee’s first Mule deer!
« Last post by jason stevens on Today at 07:35:47 PM »
Buglebuster you have an open invitation for bears an cats anytime!
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Deer Hunting / Re: Rylee’s first Mule deer!
« Last post by jason stevens on Today at 07:34:46 PM »
Next up will be Payton an her deer then we are off to elk. Looking forward to the pics an stories.  Hoping one day it will be cats an bears to round it off. We all know they now have the fishing figured out also. So happy for yall!! These kids will never worry about food!!!
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Deer Hunting / Re: No tracking dogs in Weyerhaeuser
« Last post by kodiak06 on Today at 07:29:34 PM »
No tracking dog means NO dog may be used...
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Trail Cameras / Re: Idaho on the verge of outlawing
« Last post by ganghis on Today at 07:28:09 PM »
So does Idaho have data that supports an increase take of critters due to cell cameras or is everyone just hypothetically crying the sky is falling and we must do something? This whole issue seems to be trying to solve a problem that doesn’t seem to exist but there is a vocal minority that wants to be the ethics police for everyone.

There's some data out there I'd have to dig up again
Quite a few articles on the issue as well.
This isn't a new issue..it's just something that needs to be addressed before it gets out of control.
Is their a negative opinion of states that already have restrictions like Arizona, Nevada, Utah, Montana and Kansas just to name a few ...

Idahos data doesn’t bear out what all the hypothetical conjecture is saying this is giving hunters an unfair advantage. Harvest isn’t trending up at all with cell cams become mainstream over this time period.

Honestly dude these data don't say anything other than the population is going down.  Harvest numbers are a confluence of a number of things, and with those alone you can't answer the question you want to answer.
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