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Taxidermy & Scoring / Re: Degreasing A Deer Skull
« Last post by HUNTINCOUPLE on December 08, 2025, 05:24:39 PM »
Had same issue with one heater. Added another heater to bucket for masuration and degreaseing with dawn changing water once cloudy. The added heater expedited the process for sure. 
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Power Equipment & RV / Re: Who knows electric bikes? looking at Quietkat options
« Last post by Broomd on December 08, 2025, 05:24:20 PM »
I bought two of the QK bikes with the sale in '23, I got the Ibex, wife got the Pioneer 750. So far the bikes have been a total hoot.  I hunted elk off mine last year, deer this year. The Ibex is full suspension, the pioneer is not.

My Ibex is starting to show some wear on the rear gear set, and the front sprocket. Why? The bike packs a ton of torque on "boost / unlimited" mode that I often use it and it can jump the teeth. I need to start out on eco mode from the start. That, or I need a chain with some stretch in it, that is what i've heard fixes the torque issue in lower gears.

All in all, great bikes and a blast to own. We have spare batteries for both, but really never use them.

This vid is for pedal bikes, but may help with diagnosis. 


While far from my forte', I'm unaware of chains designed to stretch (and recover).

Chain maintenance (clean, lube so all links are freely/equally moving) is good practice as well.  Tight spots can cause grief.
Thanks for the video, I watched and that looks to be the chain jumping between gears, mine is *over the teeth. It only happens on 'boost' and in the smaller sprockets. 
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Advocacy, Agencies, Access / Re: Is it a conflict of interest
« Last post by Barehunter on December 08, 2025, 05:20:43 PM »
I guess my real issue is they are spending alot of time patrolling private land when there is alot of need for them all over there area.I was checked by 3 different wardens and got 8 pictures on cams of them on days I did not get checked. I did get checked at the gate on sunday
By 2 wardens that was maybe an overtime shift but I dont know.
Maybe i is just me but that is spending alot of time in one small area. I guess I might be off base but I sure thank you guys for your imput.
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Deer Hunting / Re: "Any Deer" GMU's - Proof of Sex?
« Last post by addicted1 on December 08, 2025, 05:16:13 PM »
Several times an old guy in our camp would get a doe tag. He would hang it two or three days depending on weather. Before he started home he would bone the entire deer out.
Put it in a cooler for transport.

A game agent came by and started to give him a hard time about it. The old who is very polite told him that the law says .

Proof of sex until ready for consumption.

Nothing says I cannot cut ,wrap, or eat right here in camp.

The old guy had the proof of sex but not attached.

The Game agent thought about it and left.

I’ve been in this situation, but with a buck. Left evidence on for transport back to camp, then boned out, bag and stored in cooler. Long story short, I leave the evidence attached until I am home now. Not worth the hassle.
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Deer Hunting / Re: "Any Deer" GMU's - Proof of Sex?
« Last post by addicted1 on December 08, 2025, 05:11:02 PM »
 :yeah:

You should seriously reconsider doing that. For one they are a great way to remember the hunt, any warden will probably think your lying about your harvest if you leave antlers. Lastly they are valuable and you could sell them (not advocating for that, but it’s true). They also make great dog chews if you have a pet. You can also make jewelry, knife handles and many other cool things with them.
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Advocacy, Agencies, Access / Re: Is it a conflict of interest
« Last post by EnglishSetter on December 08, 2025, 05:09:11 PM »
No.  Very common in the leo world to use outside the agency contracts.
It just does not seem right for a state agency to be funded by the state. to be focusing resources on a private companys property and
not state property. I dont have problem with game wardens checking the private companies property once in awhile but focusing on property
is not fare for the rest of the state.

It's my understanding that the private land companies (timber companies mostly) will fund entire FTE positions.  These positions don't dedicate 100% of their time to the private, therefore the public is getting some services for free.  Obviously the amount of free services would be dictated by how much time is left over after meeting the obligations of the private company. 

Maybe I'm wrong....but that is my understanding.  It's not like they are taking the limited resource and dedicating it the private.  The private is supplimenting the already limited resource.
My buddy (recently retired) worked for ODF in Klamath Falls as a state employee, but funded by private landowners.  They primarily concentrated on fires on these private lands, but were available for other (public and private) lands.
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Advocacy, Agencies, Access / Re: Is it a conflict of interest
« Last post by EnglishSetter on December 08, 2025, 05:06:44 PM »
It really rubs me the wrong way that game wardens are working for private companies when a couple miles away on state land
people are dumping garbage at a great place to shot. private companies should hire there own security. instead of using goverment
employees as security guards.
They do hire their own security. I believe Green Diamond has two full time officers and a couple of part time guys who patrol their permit lands.
Then why do they need goverment employees

Private security doesn't write citations or perform arrests.
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Taxidermy & Scoring / Re: Degreasing A Deer Skull
« Last post by HikerHunter on December 08, 2025, 05:05:13 PM »
If your water is still murky after 1-2 days, then something still isn't clean. I'm with the suggestion to get your water hotter, not a boil, but hotter than the fish tank heater is getting it with the dish soap like you've been doing.
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Advocacy, Agencies, Access / Re: Is it a conflict of interest
« Last post by jrebel on December 08, 2025, 05:05:10 PM »
Private security can’t enforce game violations.  Heck….they likely can’t enforce lice any laws.   

I’m not sure what your rub is.   I can give you many examples where public employees / agencies are contracted to work or provide services to private entities.   Whether it be OT or more revenue to hire more employees….its the fiscally responsible thing to do.    :dunno:
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Deer Hunting / Re: Mule Deer Management Zones
« Last post by Mtnwalker on December 08, 2025, 05:01:23 PM »
I am not sure if this has been discussed on here and if this is just how they plan on "managing" herd size but hearing the words ZONE always fires off my spidey senses

Shift to a New Management Framework
For more than 124 years, Washington has regulated deer harvest using Game Management Units (GMUs). While GMUs will remain the basis for season-setting and permit allocation, WDFW is introducing a new, broader organizational structure: seven Mule Deer Management Zones (MDMZs). Each zone groups GMUs based on terrain, habitat, and population characteristics rather than county lines.

This approach, officials say, supports more accurate population-level management and better coordination of conservation strategies.

https://www.yoursourceone.com/columbia_basin/wa-unveils-sweeping-updated-mule-deer-management-plan-as-new-aerial-surveys-begin-in-kittitas/article_fd365568-7f97-4ce2-87b4-cdf649702aad.html

I'm confused. Is this an update to an old article? We've had 7 MDMZ's since like 2016

Also they didn't meet very many of their "goals" if you read through to the end... go figure  :chuckle:
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