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Re: Gov Tag Bull. Tod Reichert
« Reply #25 on: July 02, 2012, 09:05:03 PM »
whatever floats their boat but stay the heck away from me  :chuckle: :chuckle:

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Re: Gov Tag Bull. Tod Reichert
« Reply #26 on: July 02, 2012, 09:40:21 PM »
I wonder how much it cost the State for 4+ years of investigation and legal help....probably more than the $47K + $5K fine!!

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Gov Tag Bull. Tod Reichert
« Reply #27 on: July 02, 2012, 09:51:40 PM »
It's amazing they can pay up to $47k and I can have the same hunt for $60??  Who's laughing now LOL

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Re: Gov Tag Bull. Tod Reichert
« Reply #28 on: July 02, 2012, 10:00:03 PM »
Tag holder chatting with a business associate looking at the mount sipping brandy:
Mighty nice elk
yes it is
how did you get it?
well it was a rough hunt i tell you, i was fogged in for the morning, then i got word the weather was clearing so i set out
dressed in $1000.00 dollars of the finest imported latest not yet sold in store camo.
I climbed aboard my steed, a Bell 206L-4, and climbed to an alltitude perfect for glassing,
after several tense minutes i spotted this monster hiding in a canyon not accessible to anyone on foot
we made several passes, running this bull around the bowl until his tounge was dragging and i knew he was the one, radioed ahead to my "guide" and sent him the gps cordinates so he could be ready to retrive my trophy, and bring his posse and camera. after dismounting my noble steed (see bell 206L-4) i made the trek to the edge of the meadow and dropped him with my newest .000001 moa rifle from "You Cannot Afford it Rifle company"
took some hero shots and made it back just in time to watch jeopardy....


Funny. But I believe it was a little more like this:

Ring ring ring.
yellow
Todd?
Yup. Wick, is that you?
Yep, we got your bull spotted. Jimmy flew over him not more than fifteen minutes ago.
Niiiice! Is he as big as you thought?
Yup. He's a goodun. How soon can you be here?
I'll have Charles fire up the helicopter, probably 30 minutes. You think he'll still be there?
Well, we got John, Carl, Fred, George, Walter, Toby, Jerry, and Howard headed up the hill for first watch.
Niiiice! You think we can go to Applebees after? I love their wings. You like their wings Wick?
Sure Todd. Don't forget your checkbook.




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Re: Gov Tag Bull. Tod Reichert
« Reply #29 on: July 02, 2012, 10:16:59 PM »
Maybe he is spending $60 on raffle tickets and figures spending that wad would guarantee him the tag? :chuckle:

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Gov Tag Bull. Tod Reichert
« Reply #30 on: July 02, 2012, 10:25:39 PM »
Bad joke gone wrong!  It was funnier at home and poorly articulated on line!!  But what I am saying is that I can have the same experience with the OTC tag by not spending that kind of money! I know what comes with the tag, but I know my hunt will be more enjoyable than havin some one else doing the work and all I have to do is pull the trigger.

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Re: Gov Tag Bull. Tod Reichert
« Reply #31 on: July 02, 2012, 10:30:17 PM »
I completely agree. Having a good permit bull tag and having your friends and family share in the hunt would mean a heck of a lot more to me than "buying" a bull with a gov tag. Not that I could afford one. :chuckle:

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Re: Gov Tag Bull. Tod Reichert
« Reply #32 on: July 02, 2012, 10:30:52 PM »
While I agree that a 5,000 dollar fine is a joke for a guy with this kind of money but it's a misdemeanor offense punishable up to 5,000 dollars so they gave him the max minus the jail time and nobody is ever gonna see jail time including all of us for a misdemeanor hunting violation such as this.  They can't just up the fine because the offender has money!   

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Re: Gov Tag Bull. Tod Reichert
« Reply #33 on: July 02, 2012, 10:34:30 PM »
A game violation is a game violation, why is this treated any less than someone shooting the same bull after hours?
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Re: Gov Tag Bull. Tod Reichert
« Reply #34 on: July 03, 2012, 05:36:35 AM »
They hammered him with the Max penalties.  I would argue that he actually got a more severe punishment than most of us would have received.  Part of the plea deal stipulates that he can't even enter a national forest for any recreational purpose.

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Re: Gov Tag Bull. Tod Reichert
« Reply #35 on: July 03, 2012, 07:58:59 AM »
I guess he'll just buy another gov tag and just hunt private or state land. I'm sure his scouts can do a little door knocking for him. He'll probably be able to get on some nice properties by waving a nice wad of $100's. Unless I missed something in the story about losing hunting priveledges.

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Re: Gov Tag Bull. Tod Reichert
« Reply #36 on: July 03, 2012, 08:01:40 AM »
This happens everywhere. I think he is getting fined worse than most would.  :twocents:

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Re: Gov Tag Bull. Tod Reichert
« Reply #37 on: July 03, 2012, 08:30:24 AM »
So you cant take a helicopter trip into the hills and look at game?  Is it legal before the seasons open?

I believe it is legal, you just cant hunt with in 24 hours.

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Re: Gov Tag Bull. Tod Reichert
« Reply #38 on: July 03, 2012, 08:32:30 AM »
So you cant take a helicopter trip into the hills and look at game?  Is it legal before the seasons open?

I believe it is legal, you just cant hunt with in 24 hours.

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Illegal to use aircraft to spot game.

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Re: Gov Tag Bull. Tod Reichert
« Reply #39 on: July 03, 2012, 08:34:14 AM »
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« Last Edit: February 11, 2013, 12:40:04 PM by muzzlebuck »

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Re: Gov Tag Bull. Tod Reichert
« Reply #40 on: July 03, 2012, 08:37:06 AM »
A game violation is a game violation, why is this treated any less than someone shooting the same bull after hours?

Because he was prosecuted by the forest service for providing false information, not a game violation.

And that's exactly his point!! He violated game laws, why wasnt he charged and prosecuted by the wdfw like anybody else would be.

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Re: Gov Tag Bull. Tod Reichert
« Reply #41 on: July 03, 2012, 08:45:23 AM »
He'd a gotten off easier had the state charged him! 

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Re: Gov Tag Bull. Tod Reichert
« Reply #42 on: July 03, 2012, 09:22:26 AM »
Tag holder chatting with a business associate looking at the mount sipping brandy:
Mighty nice elk
yes it is
how did you get it?
well it was a rough hunt i tell you, i was fogged in for the morning, then i got word the weather was clearing so i set out
dressed in $1000.00 dollars of the finest imported latest not yet sold in store camo.
I climbed aboard my steed, a Bell 206L-4, and climbed to an alltitude perfect for glassing,
after several tense minutes i spotted this monster hiding in a canyon not accessible to anyone on foot
we made several passes, running this bull around the bowl until his tounge was dragging and i knew he was the one, radioed ahead to my "guide" and sent him the gps cordinates so he could be ready to retrive my trophy, and bring his posse and camera. after dismounting my noble steed (see bell 206L-4) i made the trek to the edge of the meadow and dropped him with my newest .000001 moa rifle from "You Cannot Afford it Rifle company"
took some hero shots and made it back just in time to watch jeopardy....


Funny. But I believe it was a little more like this:

Ring ring ring.
yellow
Todd?
Yup. Wick, is that you?
Yep, we got your bull spotted. Jimmy flew over him not more than fifteen minutes ago.
Niiiice! Is he as big as you thought?
Yup. He's a goodun. How soon can you be here?
I'll have Charles fire up the helicopter, probably 30 minutes. You think he'll still be there?
Well, we got John, Carl, Fred, George, Walter, Toby, Jerry, and Howard headed up the hill for first watch.
Niiiice! You think we can go to Applebees after? I love their wings. You like their wings Wick?
Sure Todd. Don't forget your checkbook.
Thats very funny and very sad at the same time. Pretty sickening that such great bulls have to die like that, and you know Agnew's bull died the same way. It's no secret he was guided out of the guides territory, I don't know for sure but both those guys probably had the same exact hunt from the same guide. What a bunch of crap, and why can't this be a game violation??? Sickening!
« Last Edit: July 03, 2012, 09:48:35 AM by trophyhunt »

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Re: Gov Tag Bull. Tod Reichert
« Reply #43 on: July 03, 2012, 12:05:44 PM »
So I don't post on here a lot but thought I would chime in on this one and give you guys my perspective. I am not condoning Tod and Jon's actions but can give some of you guys a little more insight as to how he hunts. I had a blues archery tag in 2007 and ran into Tod and Jon over there and ended up hunting the same area as them. They were able to hunt a week before me and were out every day in the brush, I know because I ran into them scouting Labor day weekend and during the week before I could hunt. When I first ran into Tod he was wearing old military bdu pants and a flannel shirt and looked like you or me other than he had a gun with him and it wasn't anything special, stainless remington with a leupold scope like what many of us use. The night before the season he invited me to his camp and showed me all of his trail cameras and videos of bulls they had seen in the area so that I was fully aware of what was in the area and didn't shoot a small bull. I had no idea what to expect from a guy who spent $50k on an elk tag and had preconceived ideas of a governors tag holder. The bull I actually ended up shooting they had passed up earlier in the morning and pushed him up the hill to where I was chasing elk and I was able to seal the deal on a 350 class bull. When my partner went back to camp to get pack frames he ran into Tod and his buddy and told them I had killed out. They offered to come up and help bone out the elk which they did. He did not have to do that and him being a butcher years ago showed me a slick way to bone out a shoulder that I had not seen before. Like I said before I am not condoning any of Tod's actions, I just wanted to give you guys a different perspective of the guy based on what I experienced. Tod was out hunting everyday as hard as I was and he did it for 3 weeks straight, he just has way more trigger control than the average guy which he should based on the hunts he has done. I never saw him sitting in camp waiting for someone to come in and tell him they had a bull pinned down so he could go shoot it. I know these governors tag threads are always volatile and was relunctant to post but thought it would be good for people to hear what I actually experienced.

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Re: Gov Tag Bull. Tod Reichert
« Reply #44 on: July 03, 2012, 12:23:11 PM »
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Re: Gov Tag Bull. Tod Reichert
« Reply #45 on: July 03, 2012, 01:08:32 PM »
A game violation is a game violation, why is this treated any less than someone shooting the same bull after hours?

Because he was prosecuted by the forest service for providing false information, not a game violation.

And that's exactly his point!! He violated game laws, why wasnt he charged and prosecuted by the wdfw like anybody else would be.

WDFW probably didn't have enough evidence of him using a helicopter illegally, so they turned the case over to the forest service.

And now he is prohibited from hunting on all USFS lands for a period of time.  Compacts with other states not-withstanding, Washington was slightly more limited in their power

Just a possibility

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Re: Gov Tag Bull. Tod Reichert
« Reply #46 on: July 03, 2012, 01:49:35 PM »
Might have already been said............He should lose his right to hunt forever.

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Re: Gov Tag Bull. Tod Reichert
« Reply #47 on: July 03, 2012, 02:42:57 PM »
Might have already been said............He should lose his right to hunt forever.
Thats a bit harsh IMO. :twocents:
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Re: Gov Tag Bull. Tod Reichert
« Reply #48 on: July 03, 2012, 02:54:11 PM »
Might have already been said............He should lose his right to hunt forever.
Thats a bit harsh IMO. :twocents:

 :sry: but i don't believe he is a true sportmen like you or I and if I was caught doing that, the WDFW would be all over me.

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Re: Gov Tag Bull. Tod Reichert
« Reply #49 on: July 03, 2012, 04:52:26 PM »
Worktohunt, thanks for posting that.  I don't know anything about them, other than what I have read.  The class envy and animosity aimed at those that have more than others just rubs me the wrong way.  He screwed up and he is being punished.  A "lifetime ban" from hunting, give me a break. 

 

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