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Offline cowboycraig

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Initial skinning question.

Has anyone used a
http://www.basspro.com/Hunters-Specialties-Butt-Out-2-Big-Game-Dressing-Tool/product/94754/
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Thinking this would get around splitting the pelvis when skinning.

Also does everyone split it? Do some people just "pull the last bit through"?

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Re: Using a "Butt Out", do you need to split pelvis? Skinning Question
« Reply #1 on: October 10, 2013, 10:06:27 AM »
I rarely ever split the pelvis.  You can accomplish the entire gutting process without a saw rather easily.

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Re: Using a "Butt Out", do you need to split pelvis? Skinning Question
« Reply #2 on: October 10, 2013, 10:07:12 AM »
Never used a butt out and don't even split the pelvis. Just get in there and get it done.
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Re: Using a "Butt Out", do you need to split pelvis? Skinning Question
« Reply #3 on: October 10, 2013, 10:08:56 AM »
Just get in there and get it done.

Good way to put it.

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Re: Using a "Butt Out", do you need to split pelvis? Skinning Question
« Reply #4 on: October 10, 2013, 10:10:58 AM »
Go gutless and don't even be concerned with the pelvis or innards until you're done and ready to get at the tenders, liver, and heart.
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Re: Using a "Butt Out", do you need to split pelvis? Skinning Question
« Reply #5 on: October 10, 2013, 10:21:25 AM »
Don't need it - just one more thing to carry. 
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Re: Using a "Butt Out", do you need to split pelvis? Skinning Question
« Reply #6 on: October 10, 2013, 10:26:08 AM »
Save your money, you dont need it, dont need to split the pelvis either....gutting is really not that difficult to do.
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Re: Using a "Butt Out", do you need to split pelvis? Skinning Question
« Reply #7 on: October 10, 2013, 10:27:17 AM »
cowboy, just run a knife between the pooper and the pelvis a few times, then pull the pooper into the cavity. Works fine.
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Re: Using a "Butt Out", do you need to split pelvis? Skinning Question
« Reply #8 on: October 10, 2013, 10:28:08 AM »
cowboy, just run a knife between the pooper and the pelvis a few times, then pull the pooper into the cavity. Works fine.
You said pooper... :chuckle:....twice..... :chuckle:
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Re: Using a "Butt Out", do you need to split pelvis? Skinning Question
« Reply #9 on: October 10, 2013, 10:29:26 AM »
Save your money, you dont need it, dont need to split the pelvis either....gutting is really not that difficult to do.
:yeah: it takes 2-4 minutes tops with only a knife to dress a deer. No need to split the pelvis either. I like my fishing filet knife or my havalon for gutting.

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Re: Using a "Butt Out", do you need to split pelvis? Skinning Question
« Reply #10 on: October 10, 2013, 10:30:07 AM »
cowboy, just run a knife between the pooper and the pelvis a few times, then pull the pooper into the cavity. Works fine.
You said pooper... :chuckle:....twice..... :chuckle:

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Re: Using a "Butt Out", do you need to split pelvis? Skinning Question
« Reply #11 on: October 10, 2013, 10:31:53 AM »
A very sharp fillet type knife, cut around the pooper (I'm only saying it once) as Iceman said, and it pulls right out. :tup:

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Re: Using a "Butt Out", do you need to split pelvis? Skinning Question
« Reply #12 on: October 10, 2013, 10:35:33 AM »
I never split the pelvis, a long skinny blade knife is all that is needed.

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Re: Using a "Butt Out", do you need to split pelvis? Skinning Question
« Reply #13 on: October 10, 2013, 10:39:55 AM »
cowboy, just run a knife between the pooper and the pelvis a few times, then pull the pooper into the cavity. Works fine.

Good tip, thanks! You said Pooper lol

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Re: Using a "Butt Out", do you need to split pelvis? Skinning Question
« Reply #14 on: October 10, 2013, 10:44:48 AM »
Yeah you don't NEED it, but I've used it a couple of times and really like it.  Slit the belly, insert Butt-Out, pull out poop-shoot, cut out butthole, tie a knot in the poop-shoot, pull poop-shoot from the inside.

Either wat no need to split the pelvis unless quartering.

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Re: Using a "Butt Out", do you need to split pelvis? Skinning Question
« Reply #15 on: October 10, 2013, 04:06:22 PM »
Grew up splitting the pelvis every time.

Tried it other ways, and I do think I can do a cleaner job with a split pelvis than without.

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Re: Using a "Butt Out", do you need to split pelvis? Skinning Question
« Reply #16 on: October 10, 2013, 04:19:50 PM »
No idea...sorry. I go gutless.

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Re: Using a "Butt Out", do you need to split pelvis? Skinning Question
« Reply #17 on: October 10, 2013, 05:09:56 PM »
A Butt Out was the top present in our Christmas white elephant last year. I think I hurt myself laughing so hard.
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Re: Using a "Butt Out", do you need to split pelvis? Skinning Question
« Reply #18 on: October 10, 2013, 05:13:48 PM »
I've tried one once and it broke, like everyone else said, skinny knife around the hole works great.

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Re: Using a "Butt Out", do you need to split pelvis? Skinning Question
« Reply #19 on: October 10, 2013, 05:22:43 PM »
Once somebody shows you how easy it is to split the pelvis you'll do it every time.  I've used my swiss army knife to gut a deer several times and it will split the pelvis.  The pelvis is not a solid bone, it is only connected by grissel and all you gotta do is find the high point pointing right at you and the skinny layer of grissel is right in the middle of that.  Once you get your knife right in the center of that you can work it in and dismember the two halves of the pelvis.  Once it's opened up it's way easier to pull out the bung hole without getting gut juices and poop all over everything.  Hogs, cows and deer are all the same although, I hadn't been successful splitting a big cow with my swiss army knife.  Butcher hogs are easy and deer are a snap once you find the right spot.  I had a friend that claimed to gut hundreds of deer and I watched him gut a hog.  He cut all the guts out fine then went up to the pelvis and whacked the bunghole off and left it in the hog right below the pelvis on the gutt side leaving about 8 linches of nasty drippey bunghole leaking all over.  He was offended when I corrected him politely but next time he did it right.  I've shown many a know it all hunters how to split the pelvis.   Take a shot, it's easy.

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Re: Using a "Butt Out", do you need to split pelvis? Skinning Question
« Reply #20 on: October 10, 2013, 05:31:17 PM »
 :yeah:
and, I really like getting my meat out as clean as possible and in as big a pieces as possible (deer whole, elk quartered, is ideal). Certainly a place for gutless or boning, but if I can I like to get it to a location where I have more control over the conditions before slicing and dicing unless I have to.

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Re: Using a "Butt Out", do you need to split pelvis? Skinning Question
« Reply #21 on: October 10, 2013, 06:08:57 PM »
We never take the pooper out till we get to camp and skin the deer or if we hunt near home we wait till we get the deer home.

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Re: Using a "Butt Out", do you need to split pelvis? Skinning Question
« Reply #22 on: October 10, 2013, 06:36:24 PM »
Why not just get a few zip ties and throw a loop in it and then pull it through?
Used to carry some box string like the stuff used in stores.   :dunno:
All this new fangled stuff to carry.

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Re: Using a "Butt Out", do you need to split pelvis? Skinning Question
« Reply #23 on: October 10, 2013, 06:48:35 PM »
Save your money, you dont need it, dont need to split the pelvis either....gutting is really not that difficult to do.
:yeah: it takes 2-4 minutes tops with only a knife to dress a deer. No need to split the pelvis either. I like my fishing filet knife or my havalon for gutting.
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Re: Using a "Butt Out", do you need to split pelvis? Skinning Question
« Reply #24 on: October 10, 2013, 06:51:45 PM »
cowboy, just run a knife between the pooper and the pelvis a few times, then pull the pooper into the cavity. Works fine.

I pull it the opposite way myself. Don't want the pooper touching any part of the inside. Same with the pee bag. I squeeze it to drain it making sure the drain hose is pointed where it won't get on the meat or hide, then pull it out with the bung hole. If I have a long or potentially dirty drag, I wait til I get the animal out and hung up to skin before I deal with that. I make a very small belly slit to get the guts out, just big enough to get both hands in. Then I reach in very carefully with my knife hand and cut the diaphragm away from the body cavity. Once I roll the guts out I reach in and cut the lungs loose. I don't do any throat cutting until I'm skinning the animal and pull the esophagus out then too. The less you expose, the cleaner your meat will be in the end.
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