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Re: The Green Scam of “Endangered Species”
« Reply #571 on: July 18, 2016, 07:03:08 PM »
Anyone heard how the vote went?
https://www.howlforwildlife.org/take_action  It takes 10 seconds and it’s free. To easy to make an excuse not to make your voice heard!!!!!!

The commission shall attempt to maximize the public recreational game fishing and hunting opportunities of all citizens, including juvenile, disabled, and senior citizens.
https://apps.leg.wa.gov/RCW/default.aspx?cite=77.04.012

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Re: The Green Scam of “Endangered Species”
« Reply #572 on: July 25, 2016, 02:27:14 PM »
Counties in Crisis


If you have not watched this 27 minute video, please take the time to do so: you will not be disappointed no matter where you live.
 
After you have done so, consider a similar video that could be made about:
 
-                      US Fish and Wildlife Service Refuges.
-                      US Fish and Wildlife Service introduction, protection and spread of Endangered Species, especially deadly and destructive large predators like wolves and grizzly bears.
-                      National Park Service Parks, Monuments and Historic Sites.
-                      Wilderness and Sanctuary Declaration Areas.
-                      Critical Habitat Areas.
-                      Federal land purchases, federal land easements and federally-subsidized land easements and purchases by “ghost” partners like The Nature Conservancy.
-                      No longer-constrained use of Executive Orders by Presidents seeking to please large voting blocs pleased, but unaffected, by land use closures based on fracking fears, climate change and other red herring issues.
 
Rural America is in crisis and the crisis is perpetrated by the very entity we charged first and foremost in our Constitution to “Insure domestic Tranquility”, “promote the general Welfare”, “and secure the Blessings of Liberty to ourselves and our Posterity”.
 
After watching this video I think you will agree that the federal government is doing the exact opposite of what they were and are charged to do.  If you are not affected by what you see here; if you doubt that soon you will be treated like these rural communities: have no doubt that you or your children will surely one day mimic that infamous statement in Germany under Nazi rule that “when they came for me, no one was there”!
 
Jim Beers


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Re: The Green Scam of “Endangered Species”
« Reply #573 on: July 28, 2016, 02:50:44 PM »
The Humane Society of the United States - UN Agenda 21 Connection

http://freedomoutpost.com/humane-society-of-the-united-states-un-agenda-21/

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Re: The Green Scam of “Endangered Species”
« Reply #574 on: July 28, 2016, 07:18:31 PM »
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Re: The Green Scam of “Endangered Species”
« Reply #575 on: August 10, 2016, 04:57:13 PM »

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Re: The Green Scam of “Endangered Species”
« Reply #576 on: September 17, 2016, 10:57:53 AM »
 

When a Few Good Men Stand Firm –

  Wolves, the Endangered Species Act, and Corrupt Bureaucracy

 

Please take a few moments to read the following article about what rural Americans can do to oppose the unjust imposition of wolves under an illegitimate federal law (the Endangered Species Act) by a corrupt federal agency (the US Fish & Wildlife Service).

 

North Carolina has been beset by the federal coyote/wolf/dog hybrid called the “endangered” “red” wolf for several decades.  Needless to say all rural Americans similarly beset with federally-imposed wildlife and all the harms (property-taking, destruction of local economies, loss of local government revenue and power, loss of livestock, loss of dogs, loss of hunting, loss of all manner of local culture and traditions, etc.)  associated with such federal power dictates disguised as “environmental” improvements should read  this carefully and then go to the following links and their website for more background about this fearless campaign by a few determined men:

http://paradigmsanddemographics.blogspot.com/2015/04/more-north-carolina-red-wolf-news.html#links


http://www.postandcourier.com/20160912/160919829/red-wolf-reintroduction-program-halted-

 

http://www.foxnews.com/us/2016/09/12/wild-red-wolves-territory-curtailed-under-new-federal-plan.html

 

Without taking you too far into the weeds here, let me just say that these North Carolina men have not only stopped federal bureaucrats by exposing their myriad lies and collusion with radical groups, they have set a precedent and model for similar GI wolf and grizzly bear impositions: they have given all of us a blueprint for future encounters with federal bureaucrats utilizing this “Prohibition-Like” Act to harm Americans by pretending to help everything from flies to darters.

 

PLEASE NOTE:

Mark next Wednesday, 21 September 2016 on your calendar.

At 0900 and 1000 Eastern time, FOX NEWS out of New York will (if Hillary doesn’t swoon and Trump doesn’t retract his birther denunciation) run a short news report on what is taking place in North Carolina and its connection to the following Hearing before the US House of Representatives Committee on Natural Resources that afternoon at 1400 (2PM) Eastern Time on Wednesday 21 September 2016.

Hearing: Oversight Hearing on the Status of the Federal Government's Management of Wolves
2:00 PM | 1334 Longworth House Office Building Washington, DC 20515
Host: Committee on Natural Resources |   I am unable to ascertain if C-Span will cover or record this at this time.
 
I know there is a lot here but I guarantee you will not be disappointed.  Please share this far and wide and try to catch the news and the Hearing this Wednesday.  We all owe these men and newspapers like The County Compass a great debt of gratitude.
 
Jim Beers
17 September 2016

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Re: The Green Scam of “Endangered Species”
« Reply #577 on: October 02, 2016, 12:19:47 PM »
We did it to ourselves..we elected conservatives who weren't men but who were politicians. They had no plan they were gonna make $. The progressives had a huge plan starting w/ education. They've educated 3 generations to think Bambi not reality. Now those kids are politicians who believe what the politician education produced. No more Elmer Fudd n Bugs fighting over rabbit season or daffy n duck season. Hell no guns..everything is focused on nice..which is why we are the biggest country with the most pussies per 1000 of all else.then we as conservatives never team up till it's too late..even now we see the I'm not voting for Trump cause he's not a real conservative. Guess what there's not enough of us left to win. Just take Washington which is politically controlled by king county n Oregon controlled by multnomuh. Do the math 2 countries team vote n control all others. Expand that to USA n La, NY,NJ, etc control us all...there's no home runs any more. Pinch hits grab a base drive home 1 win at a time.
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Re: The Green Scam of “Endangered Species”
« Reply #578 on: December 14, 2016, 10:30:08 AM »
SEND ENVIRONMENTAL HYPOCRITES BACK TO THE STONE AGE

http://newswithviews.com/Ewart/ron280.htm

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Re: The Green Scam of “Endangered Species”
« Reply #579 on: December 14, 2016, 07:07:05 PM »
Thanks Wolfbait, look at a county by county map of our past election results to understand where the problem originates.

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Re: The Green Scam of “Endangered Species”
« Reply #580 on: December 18, 2016, 11:17:25 AM »


 

 

Good Riddance (and don’t let the door hit you in the…)

 
Two years ago I wasted quite a bit of time opposing the Minnesota DNR decree to impose a ban on using any lead ammunition on State Wildlife Areas.  During this thorough waste of time (it was a simple government decree in a decree-friendly state based on nonsense with no possibility of any change from the get-go) I trekked to downtown St. Paul to the DNR Headquarters for a “Hearing” and a chance to “testify”.

What a circus. The 40 or 50 attendees were divided by sex and costumes.  On “my” half sat males over 50 sitting in groups of friends all decked out in wool shirts; they were the opposition.  On the other half sat a gaggle of females under 50 that probably thought that a gunstock was something listed on the Stock Exchange: they were obviously all acquainted with each other and each was decked out in “professional” clothes suitable for CEO-level executives recently departed from their offices or some expensive urban watering hole for this important meeting; they were the supporters of the ban.

 
There were a few anomalies in the female supporters group.  First there was the DNR “chief” that obviously knew each lady and wandered amongst them like a movie star.  Then there was the old man dressed in impeccable Orvis duds that looked real “outdoorsy” as he self-identified as a “hunter”.

Last but not least was an older lady in fairly grubby clothes that identified herself and her plea as an “Eagle Rescue biologist”.  Her emotional “testimony”, that was allowed to exceed the time limit unlike the rest of us, was full of tales of Bald eagles injured by “hunters” and brought to her Rescue venue located on a heavily used wintering eagle stretch of the Mississippi.  She even shared X-rays of eagles showing “lead” pellets that were “killing them”.  She received an ovation at her conclusion.

 
What she failed to mention was that the fact of lead or some other pellet metal was immaterial; lead pellets or bullets imbedded in muscle or other non-organ tissue is benign.  You or I or an eagle or a loon or a duck for that matter so afflicted may live a long life or die soon depending on the wound, not the presence of lead, since lead is not absorbed into the organs and blood (where accumulations can be fatal) when it is simply lodged in muscle or other non-organ tissue.  The lead ammunition bugaboo is based on waterfowl hyperbole and over estimation where ducks and geese, et al have CROPS full of GRIT (pebbles, shot and other small round and hard items they must constantly replenish) that they use to grind their hard plant food like seeds for digestion.  Lead shot (less than claimed) is often ground up and passes through the digestive system with the seeds and if absorbed over a long period can prove fatal.  This “climate-change”-like anecdotal over-estimation successfully justified banning lead for any waterfowl hunting over two decades ago.

Then the same folks used it to justify banning lead fishing tackle because loons were dying from “lead poisoning”.  When I tried to explain to a couple of Minnesota fishermen asking for others to turn in all their lead tackle a few years ago that the miniscule number of loons documented to have toxic lead levels ALSO had digestive systems plugged with fishing TACKLE (hooks, leaders, line) and were in fact starving to death thanks to the plugged digestive system and NOT LEAD, they got irate and told me to get lost.  You see loons HAVE NO CROP AND THEREFORE NO LEAD GRIT because they are fish eaters with digestive systems more like ours than their seed-eating cousins.  When a loon finds a bait minnow on a broken line (with tackle attached) on a snag, it swallows the minnow and the attached tackle that eventually knots up in the digestive system and starves the bird to death as its digestive juices flow freely and absorb as much of the lead as possible.

So let us return to the meeting about lead ammunition on MN State Wildlife Areas and the ladies emotional appeal on behalf of eagles.  Eagles don’t have, nor need, crops.  Eagles don’t need nor gather grit.  Eagles eat fish and meat.  So, all the eagle and lead-pellet X-rays that brought tears to our eyes that winter evening were simple deceptions.  Eagles that die from or are maimed by lead (or any other shot or bullet for that matter) either die from the wound; are disabled by the wound; or recover to stir all MN progressive’s patriotism as they soar above our waterways.

I remembered that little old lady recently and wondered where she is now as I read the following newspaper article titled, “Wind-turbine rule would allow for eagle deaths”.

Having been sensitized to the “fact” that no sacrifice (like ammunition cost and effectiveness or traditional family-heirloom weapon use) is too much to ask to “save” one, much less multiple eagles, from death or wounding I was shocked by the title.  Seeing men and kids investigated, prosecuted, fined, jailed (and prohibited from future voting and gun ownership unlike current prisoners incarcerated for “non-violent” drug crimes being released to vote and bloat growing recidivism statistics) and otherwise marginalized for shooting, mounting or possessing a Bald or Golden Eagle - all at great government expense – I read the article that upset me far more evidently than all the little old ladies or urban professional ladies or the old guys and bureaucrats that hang around them.

Here are the relevant parts of the article with my comments italicized in parentheses.

Wind-turbine rule would allow for eagle deaths

The Obama administration on Wednesday (14 December 2016) finalized a rule that lets wind-energy companies operate high-speed turbines for up to 30 years -- even if means killing or injuring thousands of federally protected bald and golden eagles.

(THOUSANDS??  30 YEARS??  Those wind “farms” have been killing millions of “Protected” birds every spring and fall for 30 years already with nary a scream from all these do-gooders.  Not only were federal bureaucrats paid handsomely to “Protect” them, the bureaucrats of USFWS, the State bureaucrats, the “conservation” organizations, the bird outfits, the radical environmentalists and even the little old Eagle Rescue lady were all AWOL as they lied about lead to discourage hunting and fishing and treated their fellow citizens and their cherished pursuits far worse than government treats terrorists or incarcerated drug smugglers, sellers and perverters of America’s youth.)
 

    Under the new rule, wind companies and other power providers will not face a penalty if they kill or injure up to 4,200 bald eagles, nearly four times the current limit. Deaths of the more rare golden eagles would be allowed without penalty so long as companies minimize losses by taking steps such as retrofitting power poles to reduce the risk of electrocution.
(How come ranchers weren’t offered a silly “out” by these “concerned” bureaucrats like putting out eagle food or working at an eagle “rescue” center when they killed A golden eagle killing a lamb or a calf or a dog?  Maybe they could attach an electrical shocker to their dog or a lamb or a calf or a kid and let a golden eagle swoop in and get shocked when it grabs them?  It doesn’t work with wolves but then we could “test” it for years until the ranchers are gone. Just below you will see that the government won’t discuss or release eagle deaths data; so how do we know 4,200 is “four times” the current limit?)
 
 
 
    The new rule will conserve eagles while also spurring development of a pollution-free energy source intended to ease global warming, a cornerstone of President Barack Obama's energy plan, said Fish and Wildlife Service Director Dan Ashe.
(Pollution-free”??  4200 dead Bald eagles and an untold number of golden eagles minced up and lying about is a certain level of accumulated tissue and genes that is hardly describable as “pollution-free”.  The next time some jerk or jerkette bullies you or your children into a “come to Gaia” moment to deny any doubts about global warming, remember this bit of national disgrace because this bureaucrat justifies a magnitude of eagle killing unknown since federal ”protection” of eagles became a federal duty as a good because it eases “global warming.  As a nod to public information, this bureaucrat “Director” was a radical political staff Director in the US House and lost his job when Newt and the Republicans took control of the House 2 years into the reign of Clinton.  He was quickly picked up by USFWS in a top job and given charge of the federal Pittman Robertson Excise Taxes on arms and ammunition intended for state wildlife agencies and their wildlife programs.  Over the next two years $45 to 60 Million went missing, and per a General Accounting Office Audit was used to insert wolves into the Upper Rockies and open an office in California, both of which the Congress had refused to fund or authorize.  This effete environmentalist spent the Bush years in a non-job post and was then made Director under Obama.  The money was never replaced, state governments went AWOL, and no one was charged after Two Congressional hearings just before a Presidential election.  Yes, such a person is no surprise in the middle of this debacle.)
 
 

    "No animal says America like the bald eagle," Ashe said in a statement, calling recovery of the bald eagle "one of our greatest national conservation achievements." The new rule attempts to build on that success, Ashe said, adding that the Fish and Wildlife Service is trying to balance energy development with eagle conservation.
(If this isn’t straight out of George Orwell’s description of Newspeak, i.e. meaningless babble that cannot be challenged or understood, then I don’t know what is.)

 

   Wind power has increased significantly since Obama took office, and wind turbines as tall as 30-story buildings are rising across the country. The wind towers have spinning rotors as wide as a passenger jet's wingspan, and blades reach speeds of up to 170 mph at the tips, creating tornado-like vortexes.

The birds are not endangered species but are protected under the Bald and Golden Eagle Protection Act and the Migratory Bird Treaty Act. The laws prohibit killing, selling or otherwise harming eagles, their nests or eggs without a permit.
(“30-story buildings”; “passenger jet’s wingspan”; “170 mph blades”: all built in enormous acreages EXACTLY where birds migrate and soar because that is where the best and most persistent winds have occurred for centuries.  Who knew such a situation was or even could be harming birds?  No wonder NO media or environmentalists or professors said anything.  Luckily we have the likes of the USFWS enforcing these bird protection laws and state DNR’s to do thing like manipulate “Rescue” ladies to regale us with why we should stop using economical and efficient ammunition for hunting because we might kill an eagle unknowingly. Al Capone had nothing on these guys.)
 
 

    It's unclear what toll wind energy companies are having on eagle populations, although Ashe said as many 500 golden eagles a year are killed by collisions with wind towers, power lines, buildings, cars and trucks. Thousands more are killed by gunshots and poisonings.
    Reporting of eagle mortality is voluntary, and the Interior Department refuses to release the information.
(Raise your hand if you are surprised that the Administration that gave us the Hillary/ATF/Gun Smuggling/UN Small Arms Treaty Attempt/ Fast & Furious scandal; the Lois Lerner/IRS record destruction scandal; Private computer servers in basements; and just recently refused to explain computer hacking by Russia to Congress and magically disagreement between 17 government intelligence agencies disappeared while the President says he knows all about in a press conference as he scoots out to a 17-day vacation in Hawaii – also gives us:
“It's unclear what toll wind energy companies are having on eagle populations.”
“Ashe said as many 500 golden eagles a year are killed by collisions with wind towers, power lines, buildings, cars and trucks. Thousands more are killed by gunshots and poisonings”.  This latter is a lie.  If there was anything near this USFWS would have been screaming to Congress for more employees and budget and the “Establishment” would have granted it immediately for fear of being called “anti- America’s symbol”.
Reporting of eagle mortality is voluntary, and the Interior Department refuses to release the information. These guys must have taken public information classes in Moscow.  They should be fired for such illegal public employee arrogance to cover up…??)
 

    The new rule is set to take effect in mid-January, days before Obama leaves office. President-elect Donald Trump could change the rule or scrap it, but the process would likely takes months or years.
(Wow, can you imagine what things would be like if President Obama hadn’t promised President-elect Trump an honest and friendly transition of power?)
 
 
    Ashe declined to be interviewed, but he said in a blog entry Wednesday the total number of eagles killed per year is likely to be in the hundreds, not thousands.
(How does a “public” “servant” decline” to tell the public about public business that has NO security (other than the tushes of the said bureaucrats) implications?  This swamp not only needs to be “drained”; it needs to be tiled and planted for the benefit of those paying for it!)

    Michael Hutchins of the American Bird Conservancy said Wednesday that his group has "some serious concerns" that the new rule will not do not enough to sustain populations of threatened eagles.
(The “conservation” organizations are full of these guys.  They are like draft dodgers telling little kids what they did “in the war”.  I include here all those urban “useful idiots” that harm their rural fellow citizens for their own selfish imaginings and even the sincere little old ladies that babble on and are never challenged like some minority spouting nonsense or a terrorist-looking man or women stranger that shows up in some public gathering wearing heavy clothing and a backpack.  All of them intend to force the rest of us to submit to th+++eir vision of a society they run and we either submit or lose our rights or worse.

 

Yesterday I received an email telling me I was accusing Obama and his Administration unjustly of doing bad things as they went out the door.  The writer inferred that I must be a racist to be so anti-Obama.  Well, make your own decision here but I, for one, am glad to be done with them.  And as I said in the title, “don’t let the door hit you in the &$$ on the way out!”

 
Jim Beers

17 December 2016

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Re: The Green Scam of “Endangered Species”
« Reply #581 on: December 19, 2016, 08:21:42 AM »
Thank you wolfbait, I have attended the same meeting with the same dynamics but the subject was Washington wolves not lead poisoning.  Please continue

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Re: The Green Scam of “Endangered Species”
« Reply #582 on: April 16, 2017, 03:45:41 PM »
USFWS provides taxpayer-funded government grants to extremists, to sue us for living.

http://www.whatcomexcavator.org/the-dredge/barred-owls-and-property-owners-vsusfws


Pay to Play - US Fish and Wildlife Style


http://usfspayettenationalforest.blogspot.com/2016/11/pay-to-play-us-fish-and-wildlife-style_3.html

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Re: The Green Scam of “Endangered Species”
« Reply #583 on: May 01, 2017, 08:00:39 AM »
Nevada Republican seeks to rewrite Endangered Species Act

http://www.therepublic.com/2017/04/29/nv-endangered-species-heller-reforms/

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Re: The Green Scam of “Endangered Species”
« Reply #584 on: May 01, 2017, 09:58:41 AM »
"Nevada Republican Sen. Dean Heller wants to rewrite the Endangered Species Act to ban any new listings without specific approval from Congress and the governors of states where the fish or wildlife live.

The measure he and Republican Sen. Rand Paul of Kentucky reintroduced in the Senate this week also would automatically remove a species from the protected list after five years unless Congress voted to keep it there. In cases where a listed species is found only in one state, that governor would be in charge of implementing any protections."

How is this a good thing? 

 


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