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Re: Good Bowhunting Sidearm... 40, 10, 45?
« Reply #60 on: April 18, 2014, 07:42:15 AM »
JLS...
Yeah... I would be grateful too! I'd be happy with my 94' 30-30 over a 44.... But the 06'... Oh hell yeah.

Held the G20 an 29 last night. 20 regular was way too big for my hand. I guess the short is much better for smaller hands. That 29 with 11 rounds would work fine for my purposes. But the 20 is probably much more shoot able.

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Re: Good Bowhunting Sidearm... 40, 10, 45?
« Reply #61 on: April 18, 2014, 07:54:13 AM »
  I have 2.  take turns.  a tcp in 380 weighs 10 oz.  an lcp in 380 weighs only 9 oz.  if you look around they can be had for less than $300 each.    aint no griz in Othello.   mike w

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Re: Good Bowhunting Sidearm... 40, 10, 45?
« Reply #62 on: April 18, 2014, 07:57:25 AM »
  I have 2.  take turns.  a tcp in 380 weighs 10 oz.  an lcp in 380 weighs only 9 oz.  if you look around they can be had for less than $300 each.    aint no griz in Othello.   mike w


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Re: Good Bowhunting Sidearm... 40, 10, 45?
« Reply #63 on: April 18, 2014, 08:14:54 AM »
It's all about Kinetic Energy, not FPS. You want a round that will hit whatever you're shooting at, like a sledge hammer.

Kinetic Energy is mass x velocity. (KE= .5 x MV2)

All the weight in the world is meaningless without the horsepower to push it.

Your formula is incorrect.

Kinetic energy = one half mass x velocity^2... KE = 1/2MV^2

How is that different than what I said? I admit, I always sucked at syntax.

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Re: Good Bowhunting Sidearm... 40, 10, 45?
« Reply #64 on: April 18, 2014, 08:43:39 AM »
Hornseeker was it the gen 4 g20 that you held?
I had a gen 3 and it was a little too big but the gen 4 fits perfect

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Re: Good Bowhunting Sidearm... 40, 10, 45?
« Reply #65 on: April 18, 2014, 10:48:55 AM »
It's all about Kinetic Energy, not FPS. You want a round that will hit whatever you're shooting at, like a sledge hammer.

Kinetic Energy is mass x velocity. (KE= .5 x MV2)

All the weight in the world is meaningless without the horsepower to push it.

Your formula is incorrect.

Kinetic energy = one half mass x velocity^2... KE = 1/2MV^2

How is that different than what I said? I admit, I always sucked at syntax.

Parenthetically, it would probably have been fine if you hand wrote it. I'm guessing you would have written the 2 in the smaller superscript (as written its a 2 for multiplication and not exponentiation). to be clear: velocity is squared, not multiplied times 2. So you also could have wrote KE = .5 x MVV. I guess I was more hung up on how you wrote it in plain English: that KE is simply a function of mass times velocity. It is important to remember that velocity is far more influential in KE than mass--which you also pointed out.  ;)

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Re: Good Bowhunting Sidearm... 40, 10, 45?
« Reply #66 on: April 18, 2014, 12:04:35 PM »
So KE... MV pretty important... Which is why a 22-250 with a solid would way out penetrate a 45acp or some such.... But when I momentum important, Where mass makes a huge difference...

I don't think it's as important in bullets as it is in arrows...(momentum)

Not sure gen 3 or 4?? It was brand new...???
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Re: Good Bowhunting Sidearm... 40, 10, 45?
« Reply #67 on: April 18, 2014, 12:25:48 PM »
I use a 44 or my 40 when i am in the woods

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Re: Good Bowhunting Sidearm... 40, 10, 45?
« Reply #68 on: April 18, 2014, 12:35:49 PM »
To punch through a Grizz skull you need atleast a 357. Mag with hard cast rounds or .44 mag with hard cast rounds, anything smaller and you'll be lunch my man,


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Re: Good Bowhunting Sidearm... 40, 10, 45?
« Reply #69 on: April 18, 2014, 12:37:52 PM »
There's a gent that had a 357. MAG (no hard cast rounds) that had a Grizz come after him, he run up a tree and emptied the gun into the beats head, didn't kill it, his friend finally got it with his .454, X-rays showed that NONE of the 357 rounds pierced the skull, only took small chips off


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Re: Good Bowhunting Sidearm... 40, 10, 45?
« Reply #70 on: April 18, 2014, 01:30:06 PM »
How does a 357 mag stack up to the 10mm?
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Re: Good Bowhunting Sidearm... 40, 10, 45?
« Reply #71 on: April 18, 2014, 02:37:54 PM »
How does a 357 mag stack up to the 10mm?
Depends on barrel length.
A 3.5" barrel on a 10mm vs a 6" barrel on a .357mag is going to level the playing field more than the 10mm fans want to admit.
I will find some ballistic data to support.
Here is some data.
If you click on the link for 10mm, they use a Colt Delta Elite with a 5.03" barrel.
No Glock 10mm runs that long.
http://www.ballisticsbytheinch.com/357mag.html
« Last Edit: April 18, 2014, 02:55:03 PM by thinkingman »
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Re: Good Bowhunting Sidearm... 40, 10, 45?
« Reply #72 on: April 18, 2014, 03:52:16 PM »
My buddy just ordered a six inch barrel for his 20, and an extended slide. Should pump up velocity huh?
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Re: Good Bowhunting Sidearm... 40, 10, 45?
« Reply #73 on: April 18, 2014, 04:16:36 PM »
I'm going to longslide my G20 and slap in a 9x25 Dillon barrel

should send a 90gr XTP pill over 2000 fps

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