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Re: Guidance for Hunter Education instructors regarding I-594
« Reply #90 on: December 09, 2014, 10:08:25 AM »
I would say that since its our lawful duty to report wildlife violations, we actually are ALL extensions of WDFW officers and therefore are ALL extensions of LEOs and are all exempt.

It makes about as much sense.

How can we allow laws that are crafted to fit anyone as it is convenient.  More laws only give more power for arresting officers and judges to "interpret" or decide if they like what we did or not.  This is such garbage.

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Re: Guidance for Hunter Education instructors regarding I-594
« Reply #91 on: December 09, 2014, 10:12:33 AM »
I still want to bust people, Stang.
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Re: Guidance for Hunter Education instructors regarding I-594
« Reply #92 on: December 09, 2014, 10:43:19 AM »
I still want to bust people, Stang.

You should, tell them your rationale, watch them sit baffled and mumbling.   :drool:

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Re: Guidance for Hunter Education instructors regarding I-594
« Reply #93 on: December 09, 2014, 10:49:12 AM »
"Alright kids, I'm with WDFW LE. I see that you're all underage and in possession or marijuana and craft beers. I'm going to have to confiscate them. This time, I'll leave you with a warning."
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Re: Guidance for Hunter Education instructors regarding I-594
« Reply #94 on: December 09, 2014, 10:52:50 AM »
"Class, there's no need to worry. We're all authorized law enforcement agents."
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Re: Guidance for Hunter Education instructors regarding I-594
« Reply #95 on: December 09, 2014, 11:07:35 AM »
The "kept at all times" refers to the time period of the transfer, not before or after.

Keep in mind, most of us people would not think of transfer as handing a firearm to your buddy when you are out shooting either. this is a case of legal wording and not common wording. I think we will find that "kept at all times" will be interpreted as it is done in some places in Europe, you can own a gun but it can NEVER leave the range. Keep in mind places like Bullseye were there are rental guns that never leave the range.

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Re: Guidance for Hunter Education instructors regarding I-594
« Reply #96 on: December 09, 2014, 12:11:08 PM »
The "kept at all times" refers to the time period of the transfer, not before or after.

Keep in mind, most of us people would not think of transfer as handing a firearm to your buddy when you are out shooting either. this is a case of legal wording and not common wording. I think we will find that "kept at all times" will be interpreted as it is done in some places in Europe, you can own a gun but it can NEVER leave the range. Keep in mind places like Bullseye were there are rental guns that never leave the range.

We do now. As a matter of fact, if you picture that transfer in your mind without doing a background check, you may be in violation.
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Re: Guidance for Hunter Education instructors regarding I-594
« Reply #97 on: December 12, 2014, 07:24:25 AM »
Because I've been writing about this for 20 months or so, I'm going to throw something out for your consideration.

Is it just possible a state agency is trying to downplay the REAL impacts of 594, simply to make the public believe there is really nothing to worry about?  :dunno:

Is it just possible a certain attorney general's office might not be eager to confirm the fears and concerns of I-594 opponents who believed that this measure WOULD impact hunting and hutner education?   :dunno:

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Re: Guidance for Hunter Education instructors regarding I-594
« Reply #98 on: December 19, 2014, 05:38:54 PM »
In Washington this is a felony now. Stupid.
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Re: Guidance for Hunter Education instructors regarding I-594
« Reply #99 on: December 19, 2014, 05:51:46 PM »
Thanks Dave, careful with common sense.  Pianoman-you can have my old ticket book, I'm done w/it!

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Re: Guidance for Hunter Education instructors regarding I-594
« Reply #100 on: December 19, 2014, 09:38:05 PM »
Because I've been writing about this for 20 months or so, I'm going to throw something out for your consideration.

Is it just possible a state agency is trying to downplay the REAL impacts of 594, simply to make the public believe there is really nothing to worry about?  :dunno:

Is it just possible a certain attorney general's office might not be eager to confirm the fears and concerns of I-594 opponents who believed that this measure WOULD impact hunting and hutner education?   :dunno:



Frogs get boiled because they don't notice the water getting gradually hotter. 

Have a nice day..... :rolleyes:

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Re: Guidance for Hunter Education instructors regarding I-594
« Reply #101 on: December 19, 2014, 10:07:14 PM »
The "kept at all times" refers to the time period of the transfer, not before or after.

The initiative was 18 pages long, if that's what their intention was, that's how it would have been written...
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Re: Guidance for Hunter Education instructors regarding I-594
« Reply #102 on: December 19, 2014, 10:10:53 PM »


In Washington this is a felony now. Stupid.

I like the sentiment but this would be exempt if they were legally hunting. If they were going for an armed hike it would be illegal.
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Re: Guidance for Hunter Education instructors regarding I-594
« Reply #103 on: December 19, 2014, 10:58:01 PM »


In Washington this is a felony now. Stupid.

I like the sentiment but this would be exempt if they were legally hunting. If they were going for an armed hike it would be illegal.

Or in a Hunter Education Class
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Re: Guidance for Hunter Education instructors regarding I-594
« Reply #104 on: December 21, 2014, 09:01:19 AM »


In Washington this is a felony now. Stupid.

I like the sentiment but this would be exempt if they were legally hunting. If they were going for an armed hike it would be illegal.

Or in a Hunter Education Class
It would only be legal in a hunter Ed class if one of the participants were under 18 or an instructor.
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