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UNDIVIDE WASHINGTON STATE
« on: March 01, 2016, 08:33:04 AM »
Wondering what readers have to say about, undivideing Washington for elk hunting? There is a lot of benefits to doing this,not only for us hunters,but the WDFW as well.I would like to get some feed back,and I will share my ideas as well.

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Re: UNDIVIDE WASHINGTON STATE
« Reply #1 on: March 01, 2016, 08:34:36 AM »
I'm all for a Washington Elk tag, to be good in all of Washington.

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Re: UNDIVIDE WASHINGTON STATE
« Reply #2 on: March 01, 2016, 08:38:21 AM »
 :yeah: Please......

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Re: UNDIVIDE WASHINGTON STATE
« Reply #3 on: March 01, 2016, 08:54:04 AM »
I am all for keeping it divided provided that the east side is managed by the east side.  We would be killing wolves, baiting bears, and chasing cats with dogs if it wasn't for Seattle.   :twocents:

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Re: UNDIVIDE WASHINGTON STATE
« Reply #4 on: March 01, 2016, 09:33:03 AM »
Oh but hell no  :yike:



Only way this would be feasible would be to go to a 100% draw.
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Re: UNDIVIDE WASHINGTON STATE
« Reply #5 on: March 01, 2016, 09:33:38 AM »
It will give all of us more area to hunt, spread out hunters,and also be less pressure on the elk herds.Also you would be able to apply for tags,on both sides of the state,and no be forced to hunt that side if not drawn.This would be a big revenue increase to the WDFW,with more tags to draw for.Personally I don't see a downside to it.

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Re: UNDIVIDE WASHINGTON STATE
« Reply #6 on: March 01, 2016, 09:36:59 AM »
....and everyone not drawn would head for OTC hunts.


Like I said it would be feasible if we went to draw only elk and got rid of all OTC tags, which is what you just said.
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Re: UNDIVIDE WASHINGTON STATE
« Reply #7 on: March 01, 2016, 09:38:38 AM »
It will give all of us more area to hunt, spread out hunters,and also be less pressure on the elk herds.Also you would be able to apply for tags,on both sides of the state,and no be forced to hunt that side if not drawn.This would be a big revenue increase to the WDFW,with more tags to draw for.Personally I don't see a downside to it.

Downside is that when folks don't draw eastside branch antlered bull tags they'd all head west to hunt bulls rather than hunt spike bulls. There are hardly any good quality permit hunts on this side, so what would happen is everyone would apply for eastside permits and hunt the westside when they don't draw. People complain about a lack of good quality westside permits all the time. This idea would sure solve that problem, but would cause overcrowding on the westside. Just my  :twocents:


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Re: UNDIVIDE WASHINGTON STATE
« Reply #8 on: March 01, 2016, 09:39:29 AM »
....and everyone not drawn would head for OTC hunts.


Like I said it would be feasible if we went to draw only elk and got rid of all OTC tags, which is what you just said.

Kinda like the mule deer permit only hunts that nobody likes the idea of...

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Re: UNDIVIDE WASHINGTON STATE
« Reply #9 on: March 01, 2016, 09:43:05 AM »
Then I would suggest making the whole state, 3 point or better as well.I don't see that with deer hunting,and the whole state is open for that.

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Re: UNDIVIDE WASHINGTON STATE
« Reply #10 on: March 01, 2016, 09:44:52 AM »
Then I would suggest making the whole state, 3 point or better as well.I don't see that with deer hunting,and the whole state is open for that.

I think that would make for a slaughter on the eastside. How would that benefit the longevity of the herds? I mean..I'm all for great hunting, but we also need to consider it from a management standpoint. It's not particularly difficult to find a 3 point or better bull on the east side of the state.


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Re: UNDIVIDE WASHINGTON STATE
« Reply #11 on: March 01, 2016, 09:46:24 AM »
It will give all of us more area to hunt, spread out hunters,and also be less pressure on the elk herds.Also you would be able to apply for tags,on both sides of the state,and no be forced to hunt that side if not drawn.This would be a big revenue increase to the WDFW,with more tags to draw for.Personally I don't see a downside to it.

Downside is that when folks don't draw eastside branch antlered bull tags they'd all head west to hunt bulls rather than hunt spike bulls. There are hardly any good quality permit hunts on this side, so what would happen is everyone would apply for eastside permits and hunt the westside when they don't draw. People complain about a lack of good quality westside permits all the time. This idea would sure solve that problem, but would cause overcrowding on the westside. Just my  :twocents:

E. Elk management just peeves me off and has for years.  No reason why we can't have quality Elk with proper management instead of wholesale slaughter with OTC tags.
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Re: UNDIVIDE WASHINGTON STATE
« Reply #12 on: March 01, 2016, 09:46:56 AM »
It will give all of us more area to hunt, spread out hunters,and also be less pressure on the elk herds.Also you would be able to apply for tags,on both sides of the state,and no be forced to hunt that side if not drawn.This would be a big revenue increase to the WDFW,with more tags to draw for.Personally I don't see a downside to it.

Downside is that when folks don't draw eastside branch antlered bull tags they'd all head west to hunt bulls rather than hunt spike bulls. There are hardly any good quality permit hunts on this side, so what would happen is everyone would apply for eastside permits and hunt the westside when they don't draw. People complain about a lack of good quality westside permits all the time. This idea would sure solve that problem, but would cause overcrowding on the westside. Just my  :twocents:

E. Elk management just peeves me off and has for years.  No reason why we can't have quality Elk with proper management instead of wholesale slaughter with OTC tags.

 :yeah:

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Re: UNDIVIDE WASHINGTON STATE
« Reply #13 on: March 01, 2016, 09:47:59 AM »
It will give all of us more area to hunt, spread out hunters,and also be less pressure on the elk herds.Also you would be able to apply for tags,on both sides of the state,and no be forced to hunt that side if not drawn.This would be a big revenue increase to the WDFW,with more tags to draw for.Personally I don't see a downside to it.

Downside is that when folks don't draw eastside branch antlered bull tags they'd all head west to hunt bulls rather than hunt spike bulls. There are hardly any good quality permit hunts on this side, so what would happen is everyone would apply for eastside permits and hunt the westside when they don't draw. People complain about a lack of good quality westside permits all the time. This idea would sure solve that problem, but would cause overcrowding on the westside. Just my  :twocents:

E. Elk management just peeves me off and has for years.  No reason why we can't have quality Elk with proper management instead of wholesale slaughter with OTC tags.

 :yeah:

Odds of drawing a permit would plummet through the floor on the east side even lower than they are now.
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Re: UNDIVIDE WASHINGTON STATE
« Reply #14 on: March 01, 2016, 09:50:05 AM »
It will give all of us more area to hunt, spread out hunters,and also be less pressure on the elk herds.Also you would be able to apply for tags,on both sides of the state,and no be forced to hunt that side if not drawn.This would be a big revenue increase to the WDFW,with more tags to draw for.Personally I don't see a downside to it.

Downside is that when folks don't draw eastside branch antlered bull tags they'd all head west to hunt bulls rather than hunt spike bulls. There are hardly any good quality permit hunts on this side, so what would happen is everyone would apply for eastside permits and hunt the westside when they don't draw. People complain about a lack of good quality westside permits all the time. This idea would sure solve that problem, but would cause overcrowding on the westside. Just my  :twocents:
And, the number of applications for certain quality elk permits would go from 1,200 to 12,000.  I'm used to the way it is now.
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