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Re: UNDIVIDE WASHINGTON STATE
« Reply #15 on: March 01, 2016, 09:51:43 AM »

It will give all of us more area to hunt, spread out hunters,and also be less pressure on the elk herds.Also you would be able to apply for tags,on both sides of the state,and no be forced to hunt that side if not drawn.This would be a big revenue increase to the WDFW,with more tags to draw for.Personally I don't see a downside to it.

Downside is that when folks don't draw eastside branch antlered bull tags they'd all head west to hunt bulls rather than hunt spike bulls. There are hardly any good quality permit hunts on this side, so what would happen is everyone would apply for eastside permits and hunt the westside when they don't draw. People complain about a lack of good quality westside permits all the time. This idea would sure solve that problem, but would cause overcrowding on the westside. Just my  :twocents:

E. Elk management just peeves me off and has for years.  No reason why we can't have quality Elk with proper management instead of wholesale slaughter with OTC tags.

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Odds of drawing a permit would plummet through the floor on the east side even lower than they are now.

Totally agree. Ur chances of drawing anything on the eastside would be slim at best. People with max points can't seem to draw now, only gets worse if the state did that. 


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Re: UNDIVIDE WASHINGTON STATE
« Reply #16 on: March 01, 2016, 09:51:55 AM »
I actually like the seperate designations.  I would actually prefer you have to choose between SE or NE as well.  Now if they would change the spike only areas to 6x or better only then I would feel totally different, but they will never go away from the draws because it generates so so much money versus just going OTC.  Seriously sit down and think about how much extra money the state makes from it's draw system.   :yike:

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Re: UNDIVIDE WASHINGTON STATE
« Reply #17 on: March 01, 2016, 09:53:10 AM »
The Westsiders would apply for East tags then hunt West when they do not draw.

The Eastsiders would apply for East tags and then hunt West for branch bulls when they dont draw.

That seems like a big downside for Westside hunters.
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Re: UNDIVIDE WASHINGTON STATE
« Reply #18 on: March 01, 2016, 10:01:02 AM »
The Westsiders would apply for East tags then hunt West when they do not draw.

The Eastsiders would apply for East tags and then hunt West for branch bulls when they dont draw.

That seems like a big downside for Westside hunters.

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Re: UNDIVIDE WASHINGTON STATE
« Reply #19 on: March 01, 2016, 10:02:36 AM »
It will give all of us more area to hunt, spread out hunters,and also be less pressure on the elk herds.Also you would be able to apply for tags,on both sides of the state,and no be forced to hunt that side if not drawn.This would be a big revenue increase to the WDFW,with more tags to draw for.Personally I don't see a downside to it.

Downside is that when folks don't draw eastside branch antlered bull tags they'd all head west to hunt bulls rather than hunt spike bulls. There are hardly any good quality permit hunts on this side, so what would happen is everyone would apply for eastside permits and hunt the westside when they don't draw. People complain about a lack of good quality westside permits all the time. This idea would sure solve that problem, but would cause overcrowding on the westside. Just my  :twocents:

E. Elk management just peeves me off and has for years.  No reason why we can't have quality Elk with proper management instead of wholesale slaughter with OTC tags.

 :yeah:

Odds of drawing a permit would plummet through the floor on the east side even lower than they are now.

Yes that would suck killing all OTC tags and might be a step too far. 

Perhaps I'd rather see further restrictions placed on the OTC tags.   Archery give up any elk for any bull,  muzzle loader loose a few days on the front half of the season given to archery, modern give up any bull for spike only would be some examples.   That would put more large branch antlers into play for modern firearm draws and keep more cows around.
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Re: UNDIVIDE WASHINGTON STATE
« Reply #20 on: March 01, 2016, 10:19:52 AM »
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Re: UNDIVIDE WASHINGTON STATE
« Reply #21 on: March 01, 2016, 10:25:20 AM »
I would not support that idea. I would support choosing sides for deer like we do for elk..so the East side mule deer would not get hammered as hard.
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Re: UNDIVIDE WASHINGTON STATE
« Reply #22 on: March 01, 2016, 11:16:19 AM »
Would not support it either. Everyone has explained why pretty good. It would be bad for both sides of the state.
And I agree with c-money deer tag should be the same as elk pick a side East or west

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Re: UNDIVIDE WASHINGTON STATE
« Reply #23 on: March 01, 2016, 11:24:49 AM »
Oh but hell no  :yike:



Only way this would be feasible would be to go to a 100% draw.

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Re: UNDIVIDE WASHINGTON STATE
« Reply #24 on: March 01, 2016, 11:25:48 AM »
....and everyone not drawn would head for OTC hunts.


Like I said it would be feasible if we went to draw only elk and got rid of all OTC tags, which is what you just said.

Kinda like the mule deer permit only hunts that nobody likes the idea of...

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Re: UNDIVIDE WASHINGTON STATE
« Reply #25 on: March 01, 2016, 11:26:37 AM »
I'd honestly like to see things more divided. Something along the lines of Idaho where you get OTC tags for zones would be nice. It'd be easier to see the numbers and figure out how to get away from people easier.

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Re: UNDIVIDE WASHINGTON STATE
« Reply #26 on: March 01, 2016, 11:28:13 AM »
I would support choosing sides for deer like we do for elk..so the East side mule deer would not get hammered as hard.

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Re: UNDIVIDE WASHINGTON STATE
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Re: UNDIVIDE WASHINGTON STATE
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Re: UNDIVIDE WASHINGTON STATE
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