collapse
Berry Game Calls!

Author Topic: UNDIVIDE WASHINGTON STATE  (Read 36225 times)

Offline WA hunter14

  • Business Sponsor
  • Trade Count: (0)
  • Longhunter
  • *****
  • Join Date: May 2011
  • Posts: 829
  • Location: kamiah, ID. previously oroville WA
Re: UNDIVIDE WASHINGTON STATE
« Reply #165 on: March 22, 2018, 03:37:52 PM »
With the amount of lions and bears you guys have you could never have bountiful deer or elk. It doesn't matter if you make it all draw only and remove tens of thousands of people from the woods,  it would only recover a small amount if any. The lions and other predators will make up for the lack of hunters.

Offline buglebrush

  • Trade Count: (0)
  • Sourdough
  • *****
  • Join Date: Aug 2010
  • Posts: 1270
Re: UNDIVIDE WASHINGTON STATE
« Reply #166 on: March 23, 2018, 05:02:00 PM »
Want to fix Washington quit allowing more hunters than elk to hunt. This state needs to go 100 percent draw for every unit. This is a fact and needs to happen now. We have become spoiled in having the opportunity to hunt everything every year. Fact is washington doesnt have the animals or the land to allow this. I am not saying every unit  should be some weird 10 pt unit but why not one every three or so or some sort. We need to push this now
[/quote

Bologna!   :bash: :bash: :bash:

It's this type of attitude that allows WDFW to get away with total mismanagement. 
1.  Serious predator reduction through common sense management. This is the First and Foremost issue.  Any attempt at change that doesn't include drastic predator reduction is like trying to empty the ocean with a spoon.   :sry:

2. Shut down the serious Native over harvest. 

3. Change many special draw only units to OTC with 6 point minimum.  The areas with the most elk are Draw only and the areas with less elk are OTC.  That's because WDFW doesn't manage for Hunting opportunity at all  :twocents:

4. Lengthen seasons even if it means more categories.  I.E.  1-18 Sept. for First Archery,  19-25 Sept. for Second Archery,  26-30 September for 1st Muzzy,  1-7 October for Second Muzzy,   etc...  This would aid greatly in reducing hunting pressure which increases everyone's quality of experience 100X

Offline buglebrush

  • Trade Count: (0)
  • Sourdough
  • *****
  • Join Date: Aug 2010
  • Posts: 1270
Re: UNDIVIDE WASHINGTON STATE
« Reply #167 on: March 23, 2018, 05:03:20 PM »
With the amount of lions and bears you guys have you could never have bountiful deer or elk. It doesn't matter if you make it all draw only and remove tens of thousands of people from the woods,  it would only recover a small amount if any. The lions and other predators will make up for the lack of hunters.

Exactly.   :bash:

Offline mdbuck5x5

  • Political Topics
  • Trade Count: (0)
  • Longhunter
  • *****
  • Join Date: Nov 2009
  • Posts: 504
  • Location: Colbert
Re: UNDIVIDE WASHINGTON STATE
« Reply #168 on: March 24, 2018, 12:53:42 PM »
I've said this many many times, but here goes again.   :sry:

If we are only talking about hunting pressure the single best way to reduce that is to lengthen seasons.  Period.  Just across the border in Idaho for deer you have September to bowhunt October 10- November 30 with a rifle and then a December bow season.  This spreads the pressure and crowding out like crazy.  It doesn't greatly impact the harvest statistics, but gives everyone a much much better experience.  When you cram all the hunters into two weekends you will always feel like it is a zoo.  Basically people have only a certain amount of time off work, etc... to hunt and when you have 10-13 weekends to pick from it sure lowers the odds that someone else picked the same time and spot to hunt.  What we need is longer seasons, and make people commit to A zone like Idaho does.

Well I've never really thought of this but I think it's a great idea. I like it and makes sense.

Offline buglebrush

  • Trade Count: (0)
  • Sourdough
  • *****
  • Join Date: Aug 2010
  • Posts: 1270
Re: UNDIVIDE WASHINGTON STATE
« Reply #169 on: March 24, 2018, 05:14:05 PM »
I've said this many many times, but here goes again.   :sry:

If we are only talking about hunting pressure the single best way to reduce that is to lengthen seasons.  Period.  Just across the border in Idaho for deer you have September to bowhunt October 10- November 30 with a rifle and then a December bow season.  This spreads the pressure and crowding out like crazy.  It doesn't greatly impact the harvest statistics, but gives everyone a much much better experience.  When you cram all the hunters into two weekends you will always feel like it is a zoo.  Basically people have only a certain amount of time off work, etc... to hunt and when you have 10-13 weekends to pick from it sure lowers the odds that someone else picked the same time and spot to hunt.  What we need is longer seasons, and make people commit to A zone like Idaho does.

Well I've never really thought of this but I think it's a great idea. I like it and makes sense.

Yes, but sadly it makes way too much sense for the chowderheads at WDFW to consider adopting it.

Offline mdbuck5x5

  • Political Topics
  • Trade Count: (0)
  • Longhunter
  • *****
  • Join Date: Nov 2009
  • Posts: 504
  • Location: Colbert
Re: UNDIVIDE WASHINGTON STATE
« Reply #170 on: March 25, 2018, 12:15:34 PM »
I've said this many many times, but here goes again.   :sry:

If we are only talking about hunting pressure the single best way to reduce that is to lengthen seasons.  Period.  Just across the border in Idaho for deer you have September to bowhunt October 10- November 30 with a rifle and then a December bow season.  This spreads the pressure and crowding out like crazy.  It doesn't greatly impact the harvest statistics, but gives everyone a much much better experience.  When you cram all the hunters into two weekends you will always feel like it is a zoo.  Basically people have only a certain amount of time off work, etc... to hunt and when you have 10-13 weekends to pick from it sure lowers the odds that someone else picked the same time and spot to hunt.  What we need is longer seasons, and make people commit to A zone like Idaho does.

Well I've never really thought of this but I think it's a great idea. I like it and makes sense.

Yes, but sadly it makes way too much sense for the chowderheads at WDFW to consider adopting it.

Yeah that's for sure I agree. Anything that actually makes sense they do the opposite.

Offline meatwhack

  • Non-Hunting Topics
  • Trade Count: (0)
  • Scout
  • ****
  • Join Date: Oct 2011
  • Posts: 390
Re: UNDIVIDE WASHINGTON STATE
« Reply #171 on: March 25, 2018, 03:08:57 PM »
What areas in Idaho are open from October 10th to November 30th to rifle hunt elk?

Offline buglebrush

  • Trade Count: (0)
  • Sourdough
  • *****
  • Join Date: Aug 2010
  • Posts: 1270
Re: UNDIVIDE WASHINGTON STATE
« Reply #172 on: March 25, 2018, 07:39:14 PM »
What areas in Idaho are open from October 10th to November 30th to rifle hunt elk?

If you read my comment I specified deer as the species.

Offline meatwhack

  • Non-Hunting Topics
  • Trade Count: (0)
  • Scout
  • ****
  • Join Date: Oct 2011
  • Posts: 390
Re: UNDIVIDE WASHINGTON STATE
« Reply #173 on: March 25, 2018, 08:04:01 PM »
Sorry didnít catch that I thought we were talking about elk and divided vs undivided for tag choices.