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Re: Illegal shed hunters on wdfw land
« Reply #25 on: March 31, 2016, 09:40:37 PM »
Hey NS, just a question. How is all of your trompsing around and "enjoying nature 7 days a week" just outside of the closed areas picking up sheds any less stressful on wintering animals?
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Re: Illegal shed hunters on wdfw land
« Reply #26 on: March 31, 2016, 09:44:31 PM »
Hey NS, just a question. How is all of your trompsing around and "enjoying nature 7 days a week" just outside of the closed areas picking up sheds any less stressful on wintering animals?


Now that is a very good question!!

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Re: Illegal shed hunters on wdfw land
« Reply #27 on: March 31, 2016, 09:50:25 PM »
How much are you selling them for?

Make it illegal to sell sheds and it would solve a good portion to the problem.

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Re: Illegal shed hunters on wdfw land
« Reply #28 on: March 31, 2016, 10:03:57 PM »
There are a few people that do post on here that go into these closed areas.. not just oak creek. It is pretty frustrating for those of us that want to pick up a few horns legally and wait until may 1st to enter these closed areas when we find out that people have already been in them picking up boat loads of horns. Those of you that don't live around the feed lots don't understand. These elk do get fed in them but many of them will hang around until late March or April before leaving, that is unless someone goes into the feed lots illegally and spooks them out.
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Re: Illegal shed hunters
« Reply #29 on: March 31, 2016, 10:09:49 PM »
Naches, our next Governor! :tup:

Eyes in the woods volunteers? Sounds like people have to much time on their hands and should be out patrolling streets where people are getting robbed. Not a handful of guys stealing sheds. Woohoo...
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Re: Illegal shed hunters on wdfw land
« Reply #30 on: March 31, 2016, 10:12:47 PM »
There are a few people that do post on here that go into these closed areas.. not just oak creek. It is pretty frustrating for those of us that want to pick up a few horns legally and wait until may 1st to enter these closed areas when we find out that people have already been in them picking up boat loads of horns. Those of you that don't live around the feed lots don't understand. These elk do get fed in them but many of them will hang around until late March or April before leaving, that is unless someone goes into the feed lots illegally and spooks them out.

Hence my post about the "volunteers"
I completely agree with your frustrations and am not condoning the trespassing
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Re: Illegal shed hunters on wdfw land
« Reply #31 on: March 31, 2016, 10:45:43 PM »
 WoW! Kinda blows my mind that anyone would think that having 100% public access to areas such as Oak Creek  year around would be a good idea .

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Re: Illegal shed hunters on wdfw land
« Reply #32 on: March 31, 2016, 11:07:02 PM »
To the ones that think this is ok...how is trespassing ok? If it were your property would you be what's the harm, or would you be posting trail cam pics trying to internet shame them or pressing charges?   :dunno:

To those doing the trespassing...how is illegal taking of large sheds any better then poaching a trophy....is it still a trophy to you knowing you broke the law (even if you don't like the law)?

As for anyone who has witnessed a game violation and not reported it, how can you complain about the problems with enforcement and lack of support for law enforcement officers.

30 pages about a Possibly raffle tag poached bull yet it's all good to break the law if there sheds....

Sure there are bigger problems out there but what is in the future for us as hunters if we don't set, adhere, and uphold to a standard? I can't believe the direction this thread took... :bash:
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Re: Illegal shed hunters on wdfw land
« Reply #33 on: March 31, 2016, 11:14:48 PM »
To the ones that think this is ok...how is trespassing ok? If it were your property would you be what's the harm, or would you be posting trail cam pics trying to internet shame them or pressing charges?   :dunno:

To those doing the trespassing...how is illegal taking of large sheds any better then poaching a trophy....is it still a trophy to you knowing you broke the law (even if you don't like the law)?  and if it's for profit how it any better then poaching at all?

As for anyone who has witnessed a game violation and not reported it, how can you complain about the problems with enforcement and lack of support for law enforcement officers.

What is in the future for us as hunters? I can't believe the direction this thread took...

Who said it was ok to trespass?.... Just saying the eyes in the woods idea seems ridiculous to me. Oh let's get hunters to nit pick each other and rat on each other even if it was an honest mistake. Instead of informing and educating. Some people on this forum are complete hypocrites, one week saying oh I'm leaving the deer and elk alone this winter there's a lot of snow, then the next week posting pictures of deer shedding antlers.
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Re: Illegal shed hunters on wdfw land
« Reply #34 on: March 31, 2016, 11:18:21 PM »
There are a few people that do post on here that go into these closed areas.. not just oak creek. It is pretty frustrating for those of us that want to pick up a few horns legally and wait until may 1st to enter these closed areas when we find out that people have already been in them picking up boat loads of horns. Those of you that don't live around the feed lots don't understand. These elk do get fed in them but many of them will hang around until late March or April before leaving, that is unless someone goes into the feed lots illegally and spooks them out.

This was the trespassing I was referring too....going into a closed area =trespassing :dunno:

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Re: Illegal shed hunters on wdfw land
« Reply #35 on: March 31, 2016, 11:23:47 PM »
There are a few people that do post on here that go into these closed areas.. not just oak creek. It is pretty frustrating for those of us that want to pick up a few horns legally and wait until may 1st to enter these closed areas when we find out that people have already been in them picking up boat loads of horns. Those of you that don't live around the feed lots don't understand. These elk do get fed in them but many of them will hang around until late March or April before leaving, that is unless someone goes into the feed lots illegally and spooks them out.

This was the trespassing I was referring too....going into a closed area =trespassing :dunno:

Well I would be very interested in hearing some names of the people that trespass. That seems like an assumption. But that would piss me off big time having people going in early, I could understand why peeps are frustrated. If your out hitting the hills though don't point fingers at other guys pressuring animals.

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Re: Illegal shed hunters on wdfw land
« Reply #36 on: March 31, 2016, 11:26:11 PM »
To the ones that think this is ok...how is trespassing ok? If it were your property would you be what's the harm, or would you be posting trail cam pics trying to internet shame them or pressing charges?   :dunno:

To those doing the trespassing...how is illegal taking of large sheds any better then poaching a trophy....is it still a trophy to you knowing you broke the law (even if you don't like the law)?  and if it's for profit how it any better then poaching at all?

As for anyone who has witnessed a game violation and not reported it, how can you complain about the problems with enforcement and lack of support for law enforcement officers.

What is in the future for us as hunters? I can't believe the direction this thread took...

Who said it was ok to trespass? Have you read through the thread even? Same bull crap liberal Hillary supporters do. OH YOU WANT TO BUILD A WALL? YOUR A RACIST.... Just saying the eyes in the woods idea seems ridiculous to me. Oh let's get hunters to nit pick each other and rat on each other even if it was an honest mistake. Instead of informing and educating. Some people on this forum are complete hypocrites, one week saying oh I'm leaving the deer and elk alone this winter there's a lot of snow, then the next week posting pictures of deer shedding antlers.

Eyes in the woods is to assist with the limited number of enforcement officials available. Most successful game  violation prosecution start by a tip from an eyewitness see the thread on Wyoming trophy mule deer poached.

As far informed and educated I would recommend leaving that to LE discretion....

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Re: Illegal shed hunters on wdfw land
« Reply #37 on: March 31, 2016, 11:28:29 PM »
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There are a few people that do post on here that go into these closed areas.. not just oak creek. It is pretty frustrating for those of us that want to pick up a few horns legally and wait until may 1st to enter these closed areas when we find out that people have already been in them picking up boat loads of horns. Those of you that don't live around the feed lots don't understand. These elk do get fed in them but many of them will hang around until late March or April before leaving, that is unless someone goes into the feed lots illegally and spooks them out.

This was the trespassing I was referring too....going into a closed area =trespassing :dunno:

Well I would be very interested in hearing some names of the people that trespass. That seems like an assumption. But that would piss me off big time having people going in early, I could understand why peeps are frustrated. If your out hitting the hills though don't point fingers at other guys pressuring animals.
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Re: Illegal shed hunters on wdfw land
« Reply #38 on: April 01, 2016, 03:00:54 AM »
How much are you selling them for?

Make it illegal to sell sheds and it would solve a good portion to the problem.

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Re: Illegal shed hunters on wdfw land
« Reply #39 on: April 01, 2016, 06:19:35 AM »
I am just wondering here, how would you all know if it wasn't the dude driving the feed truck at the feeding stations?? I am thinkn that if a dude was driving a feed truck and saw a few sets of sheds that he could make a few bucks by picking them up, probably would just look at it as perks of the job, I know I would!!!
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Re: Illegal shed hunters on wdfw land
« Reply #40 on: April 01, 2016, 06:24:52 AM »
There are a few people that do post on here that go into these closed areas.. not just oak creek. It is pretty frustrating for those of us that want to pick up a few horns legally and wait until may 1st to enter these closed areas when we find out that people have already been in them picking up boat loads of horns. Those of you that don't live around the feed lots don't understand. These elk do get fed in them but many of them will hang around until late March or April before leaving, that is unless someone goes into the feed lots illegally and spooks them out.

This was the trespassing I was referring too....going into a closed area =trespassing :dunno:

Well I would be very interested in hearing some names of the people that trespass. That seems like an assumption. But that would piss me off big time having people going in early, I could understand why peeps are frustrated. If your out hitting the hills though don't point fingers at other guys pressuring animals.
I don't have any solid evidence to back it up so I'm not going to name anyone. It's mostly hearsay and bragging and too much background on facebook pictures. Also, I'm not ip pushing animals around in the hills. I was watching a large herd of elk from January until mid March that had about 20 bulls in it. I went out of town for a week and they are no where to be found. I decided to go look and see if I could find any sheds where they had been but all I found was a bunch of four wheeler tracks all over the hill side well off of the green dot roads that they are supposed to stay on.
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Re: Illegal shed hunters on wdfw land
« Reply #41 on: April 01, 2016, 06:49:37 AM »
Eyes in the woods is an awesome idea.. The only people that are in the feeding stations early are the worthless ones that cant get a real job and have to sell horns to make a living pisses me off when I wait till may to take my kids out to find horns and there are fresh beer cans and people tracks everywhere.

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Re: Illegal shed hunters on wdfw land
« Reply #42 on: April 01, 2016, 07:29:27 AM »
These threads make me happy that I am not a hardcore shed guy.  Same with the waterfowl ranting threads.
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Re: Illegal shed hunters
« Reply #43 on: April 01, 2016, 07:56:37 AM »
Which should lead to what....

If found guilty maybe service time.. toward habitat improvement....mortality studies...educating visitors to feed stations on the importance of winter range...

What would you say is just if someone trespassed against you?

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Re: Illegal shed hunters on wdfw land
« Reply #44 on: April 01, 2016, 08:14:48 AM »
From a guy who doesn't actively shed hunt...it sounds to me like you guys are your own worst enemy. I expect before long there will be a statewide season for shed hunting and/or profiting from it will be banned. Personally, I'd be in favor of both. I don't care about bone on the ground, just the critters it falls from!  :twocents:
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Re: Illegal shed hunters
« Reply #45 on: April 01, 2016, 08:31:49 AM »
Since when has picking up naturally shed antlers become illegal?? Crap ola, I done get how wdfw can make something like that illegal??? And I cant imagine the sort that would RAT someone out for picking up a damn shed.. I am betting its people who are pissed off cause they didn't get their lazy asses there first... RAT...

It's been illegal for awhile on seasonally closed wdfw lands. Apparently people don't care or don't read the "this areas is closed March-April" sign.

It's amazing what people will do for a shed antler. People have even been caught jumping the fence at the feed lot this year in broad daylight when the wdfw were still feeding the elk.


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Re: Illegal shed hunters on wdfw land
« Reply #46 on: April 01, 2016, 09:09:06 AM »
These threads make me happy that I am not a hardcore shed guy.  Same with the waterfowl ranting threads.

I've been shed hunting pretty hard core, and haven't found one this year LOL. I don't know who would want to sell the sheds after working their asses off to find one.

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Re: Illegal shed hunters on wdfw land
« Reply #47 on: April 01, 2016, 09:52:21 AM »
Maybe Wdfw should do some stings with sheds that have radio transmitters in them.
I saw it on wardens on tv.

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Re: Illegal shed hunters on wdfw land
« Reply #48 on: April 01, 2016, 10:01:12 AM »
Maybe Wdfw should do some stings with sheds that have radio transmitters in them.
I saw it on wardens on tv.

Or maybe a sting operation involving bees hidden inside the antler(s) so they really get stung

Perhaps obtaining some alarm pheromone from a queen bee and wiping that onto the antler(s) so anybody who takes that antler will have a swarm of angry bees in their truck. 

C'mon guys, lets get some solutions going.  BULLBLASTER and I can't do everything for you.
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Re: Illegal shed hunters on wdfw land
« Reply #49 on: April 01, 2016, 10:08:29 AM »
Maybe Wdfw should do some stings with sheds that have radio transmitters in them.
I saw it on wardens on tv.


I love this idea! Big gnarly one's too! Imagine the look of some jack wagons that play the part of the good guy then get nailed in a full blown lie! Priceless! I feel that under the right circumstances penalties should be harsh enough to GUARANTEE results, like say a mandatory minimum $500 dollar fine for trespassing while shed hunting or shed hunting in a closed area with forfeiture of any sheds collected and 20 hours of community service related to conservation. It's the slap on the wrist BS that keeps these guys coming back. If you go out and get caught again then take away hunting rights for a year. That should stop these busters and then you would see results. Same guys doing this sort of thing are the same guy's tossing out beer can's and driving drunk and saying " hey it was just one antler" well "hey it was just one beer". As long as they make it home afterwards they seem to think it's ok. It's sad and it just makes the next guy wanna say F-it and go out and do the same cuz everyone else is. Harsher punishment would solve a lot of these issues we all discuss on these forums yet we can't seem to up the ante to get it stopped. Wish we could.

 

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