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Re: Changes at RAD - Broadheads
« Reply #50 on: April 22, 2016, 09:18:57 AM »
Just out of curiosity are there any plans to develop some mechanical broad heads? Personally I prefer the fixed blades, but I know there are a lot of people out there that like mechanical.

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Re: Changes at RAD - Broadheads
« Reply #51 on: April 22, 2016, 10:28:24 AM »
Nothing in that weight range at the moment.  150 to 175 grain heads are such an extremely small part of the market we likely will not invest in that until we are firmly planted on some seriously hard ground.  However, we have been discussing a more traditional type of head.  If I could get a bright idea on how to make a better locking mousetrap for one it could happen in a reasonable amount of time.  But we don't want to just copy something the market already has.  It needs to be something with a clear benefit and easy use application.  So far all my prototypes have been WAY too difficult to build.  My mind is always digging and spinning though...we'll figure out a way someday.

Are you at all interested in a 145 grain three blade with a Ti-Con type ferrule?  Length almost in the Wensel ball park?  I have a prototype that works pretty darn good on that one.  Low investment too!  Could be a possible addition in 2017.

Rad, I'd be VERY interested in the 145gr TiCon too!  Congrats on all the challenges you've gone thru to make this a reality!

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Re: Changes at RAD - Broadheads
« Reply #52 on: April 22, 2016, 01:07:37 PM »
Just out of curiosity are there any plans to develop some mechanical broad heads? Personally I prefer the fixed blades, but I know there are a lot of people out there that like mechanical.

The past few years we have been toying with one.  But I believe for us to manufacture one it needs to be a considerable improvement on what is available out there right now.  And of course it can not infringe on the massive amount of new patents being filed.  It also needs to be cost effective to build.  So far I just haven't been able to find that sweet spot in design.

Finding a design that allows us to use hard (stays sharp through penetration) blades yet avoids breakage on large bone is a huge obstacle on expandables.  If you look at what is out there you have two choices - durable and dull or sharp and fragile.  For most whitetails you can live with those.  For western elk hunters neither is an advantage.  We need durable and sharp out here. Until we can figure out how to have both we'll be content to wait on releasing an expandable.
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Re: Changes at RAD - Broadheads
« Reply #53 on: April 22, 2016, 11:54:58 PM »
Had a long talk with my brother this evening.  He just finished up the initial stock orders for broadhead ferrules and is finishing up the programming for peeps.  Once we start producing peep sights in-house those high machine payments are going to be much less consuming.  Maybe my heart rate and blood pressure can start getting back to normal soon.  I might even be able to reschedule that next sheep hunt before I'm too old.

Also had a chance to speak with Jason Phelps for a good while earlier today.  His crew is on board to team up with RAD again for 2016.  I can't think of a better bunch of guys to represent us out in the field.  Was really good news to hear!  We want to give a big Thank You to the Phelps Team for believing in us and the product line.

D-Rock has some new 125 grain VanDykes heading his way soon.  I'm putting pins in those tonight.  Man!! - Those are looking really nice!  Unlike the ones he tested for us last year the 2016 model has the exact ferrule contour as the 100 grain Titanium Signature, Triple Sec and the 2016 MadMan.  Only real difference is the addition of a brass collar.  Once I get these pinned I'll try to take a quick picture and post.  I'm thinking my brother needs to be prepared to make a bunch more of these!  They are stunning to look at. :tup:

Sounds like MLBowhunting has got the RAD Broadhead changes handled on Instagram.  MLB has really been giving this his all as well as coming down last week to help out with packaging and old dog sitting while I was at the hospital with the wife.  What a blessing he has been!  One of these days we are going to need him added to the payroll. :o

We also got a chance to check in with Del DelMastro.  He received his new AC Injections and is finishing up all the fletching.  Sounds like he will be off on a Canadian bear hunt in the coming weeks to run a "Deep Six" DelMastro 100 through a big boar for the first time.  Del has been a Carbon Express guy for as long as I have known him.  So seeing him shoot a Deep Six Easton shaft is an amazing thing on it's own.  He seemed pretty excited when we talked!  We wish him the best of luck.  Hopefully I will have pictures of his hunt to share soon.

Last year I mentioned in another thread that we would try to get Del on Hunt-WA for a live Q&A or maybe start a DelMastro Q&A thread.  He has agreed to do it and has now set up as a H-W member.  Once he returns from his big hunt we will make a time and work out the details.  I'm not sure how well and fast he types but it should be a fun back and forth.  He is not only one of the more accomplished bowhunters on the planet, but one of the great guys in archery as well.  If this works out well...maybe I can talk other friends of mine from the industry to do the same.  Could be a lot of fun!

Things are getting cranked up!
« Last Edit: April 23, 2016, 12:29:38 AM by RadSav »
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Re: Changes at RAD - Broadheads
« Reply #54 on: April 23, 2016, 12:20:08 AM »
Just a quick cell phone pic of the 2016 - 125 VanDyke.  If I remember I'll replace later when I find the other camera.  It went on a rock rounding trip a couple weeks ago and is MIA.
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Re: Changes at RAD - Broadheads
« Reply #55 on: April 23, 2016, 02:46:00 AM »
Awesome job all around  :tup:

Here was a direct head to head of the slick trick & last year's delmastros HPV titanium line....the slick trick got lost in a  block target from a bad insert and with out my knowledge I made the perfect shot not long after on the opposite side of the target

Pretty obvious who won ! Great product

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Re: Changes at RAD - Broadheads
« Reply #56 on: April 23, 2016, 03:12:21 AM »
That insert pull out on an Axis or an FMJ?  I've had one heck of a time with the HIT inserts coming loose in my FMJ's.  Finally figured out if I clean the inside of the shaft with 90% alcohol or better and then use Loctite 380 impact modified Black Max (keep refrigerated) they really lock in there pretty good.  I used 72% and even the 380 was coming loose.

Thanks for posting the picture.  Not sure we'll ever see another one like that.  Pretty cool :tup:
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Re: Changes at RAD - Broadheads
« Reply #57 on: April 23, 2016, 03:23:55 AM »
I believe it was a black eagle rampage actually

The delmastro was actually lodged in the back end of the blades of the slick trick btw,I love slick tricks and know this isn't exactly fair but still cool how well the delmastros held up

Will definitely send as many orders your way as I can

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Re: Changes at RAD - Broadheads
« Reply #58 on: April 23, 2016, 10:56:30 PM »
Congratulations!!

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Re: Changes at RAD - Broadheads
« Reply #59 on: April 24, 2016, 07:39:00 PM »
Finally, the 125!!
Rad, they look great, please keep me posted when they are available. Congrats on the new decisions and journey with the company, I look forward to watching your growth and success.
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Re: Changes at RAD - Broadheads
« Reply #60 on: April 24, 2016, 08:10:04 PM »
Supplier is telling me about 10 days on the cards.  Card suppliers are usually quite accurate on time.  Not like machinists or tool makers :chuckle:  I'll certainly post as soon as they arrive.
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Re: Changes at RAD - Broadheads
« Reply #61 on: April 24, 2016, 08:44:59 PM »
Yes sir, finally gonna be able to push forward with this process.   :tup:
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Re: Changes at RAD - Broadheads
« Reply #62 on: April 25, 2016, 01:04:34 AM »
Since you guys are liking the 125 grain here is another.  This is a bit more unique.  It's called the "Ultra-Con X" and is one of our two new Crossbow compatible heads for 2016. It is similar to the Ultra-Con 100 with a MadMan point.  It is designed for the 11/32" diameter arrow found on crossbow bolts.  I know there are a few guys out there still using aluminum arrows.  This head would fit those arrow shafts very well too.

I am growing quite fond of this head.  Enough we may add a different collar soon that will make it adaptable to the standard carbon vertical bow shafts.
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Re: Changes at RAD - Broadheads
« Reply #63 on: April 25, 2016, 01:40:38 AM »
The three new Deep Six compatible heads have gotten by far the most interest so far this year.  Again, this is a cell phone pic.  I'll try to update as the better pics come available.  This one is the DelMastro HPV100-D6. 

The Deep Six ferrule uses a 6-40 thread size instead of the standard 8-32 thread.  The real cool thing about these, besides being titanium, is that Easton is making a stainless steel D6 insert that fits the Axis and original FMJ shafts.  For those of you, like me, who are on the fence with HIT inserts this is a great option.  It is expensive material to work with, but titanium just might be the ultimate material for Deep Six ferrules.  Super strong, no corrosion, and machines to a slick finish.  Both Del and Larry are looking to shoot these this year.  Del is shooting the A/C Injection and Larry is shooting the all carbon Injection.
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Re: Changes at RAD - Broadheads
« Reply #64 on: April 25, 2016, 06:48:55 AM »
Just a quick cell phone pic of the 2016 - 125 VanDyke.  If I remember I'll replace later when I find the other camera.  It went on a rock rounding trip a couple weeks ago and is MIA.
these I like. :drool:

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Re: Changes at RAD - Broadheads
« Reply #65 on: April 28, 2016, 07:38:22 PM »
This is awesome news for you and your business Rad. Looks like your really turning the corner and headed in a great direction. Congrats and keep it going!

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Re: Changes at RAD - Broadheads
« Reply #66 on: May 02, 2016, 04:33:20 AM »
Our razor blade specialist in NJ set out to make a new blade buffer earlier this year.  It is a buffer that removes burrs from the sides of the blades before the strip enters the grinder.  I was torn as to whether this was a good idea for our new blades or not.  There are positives and negatives to buffing the sides.

On one hand - buffing the sides increases penetration, helps prolong coagulation, looks beautiful and aids greatly in assembly.

On the other hand - a buffered blade is more reflective which can be problematic when hunting turkey or open country on sunny days.

Our goal has always been to design broadheads that put animals on the ground faster and leave a heavier blood trail to assist in recovery.  Buffered sides would help achieve both of these things.  Both NAP and WASP have done a very nice job in doing this very thing.  When I myself have shot NAP or WASP I've always coated the blades with a black Paper-Mate permanent marker before chasing muledeer or stalking antelope.  It is easy and effective, but is that something hunters want to do?

Well, I had a few hundred HPV blades run as a test to see how the new buffer worked.  Got them in on Friday and I have to say I'm pretty impressed!  They slide into ferrules like a hot knife through butter.  They slide through 80# catalog paper stock with similar ease.  The soft edge you normally get on just one side of the blade you now get on both sides of the blade.  I ran them through a half dozen different materials at both velocity and by hand then reviewed the cuts through the microscope.  The cuts are nearly 50% cleaner than the same cuts made with a standard un-buffed blade.  This means there is definitely a substantial benefit in efficiency by adding this step to our process.

We have a month or so before we run our next full run of blades.  So I thought I would run things past you all.  Sharpness of the new run will be better than before either way.  Our effectiveness the past few years has proven very good without the buffing.  But, which is the more important feature to you?  Would you like to see a smoother, more efficient, deeper penetrating blade or would you prefer a less reflective blade for those sunny days in the open? 
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Re: Changes at RAD - Broadheads
« Reply #67 on: May 02, 2016, 04:43:52 AM »
My quiver hides the tops of the blades so I wouldn't care. Just me.

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Re: Changes at RAD - Broadheads
« Reply #68 on: May 02, 2016, 04:52:24 AM »
This would not effect the Ti-Con blades for probably another year.  There would be benefits to the Ti-Con blade by buffing, but due to blade angles and thickness it would not be as noticeable.
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Re: Changes at RAD - Broadheads
« Reply #69 on: May 02, 2016, 05:54:23 AM »
Pros outweigh the cons, buff away! A swipe of a black sharpie will.dull them out if needed.  :tup:
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Re: Changes at RAD - Broadheads
« Reply #70 on: May 05, 2016, 03:39:04 PM »
Just got the die cut sample cards in yesterday.  My perfect vendor screwed it up and set the blister window dies 90 degrees from where we asked them to be placed.  Not a big deal but looks like that pushes us back a week on delivery.  Not a big obstacle, but figured those who are waiting should have an update.
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Re: Changes at RAD - Broadheads
« Reply #71 on: May 05, 2016, 10:33:36 PM »
Buff them. Sharper is better. The end :chuckle:  Best heads I have shot and couldn't be more satisfied with performance thus far! Excited about the product improvments and congrats on the hard work and success :tup:

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Re: Changes at RAD - Broadheads
« Reply #72 on: May 05, 2016, 10:52:42 PM »
I have my brother working on a new project in the next month.  I am having him take a slightly different approach to a Ti-Con 100 that I will be testing this year.  If it comes off the machine as I hope it will be a great head for shooters of Axis and standard FMJ shafts.  The head will carry the 6-40 Deep Six thread profile and will be designed to have a perfect fit with Easton's new 5mm (X) Deep Six insert.  There is a good chance that I will also be having special brass and stainless inserts made to test with this head.  Easton's (X) D6 insert is 20 grains - I will likely be testing with an insert of 30 to 40 grains.

We intend to have at least two, maybe as many as six, other successful hunters testing the head this year as well.  I would like to see a  successful Hunt-WA bowhunting member be part of this "Team Ti-Con".  If you have big plans for the 2016 season and would like to be a part of this...Let me know.  It should be fun!!

For those unfamiliar with the Ti-Con (my personal favorite) here is a picture of the standard model.  The new model we will be testing will be slightly different from the center retaining ring back to the insert.  But the head will remain very much the same and will still use a titanium ferrule.
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Re: Changes at RAD - Broadheads
« Reply #73 on: May 05, 2016, 11:07:24 PM »
Have not yet got the PNG files from our designer.  But thought I would share what I do have of the new logo.
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Re: Changes at RAD - Broadheads
« Reply #74 on: May 06, 2016, 07:18:09 AM »
Can't wait to try these out.
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