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Re: Hunter facing charges after death of beloved elk named Bullwinkle
« Reply #25 on: May 15, 2016, 10:12:47 AM »
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Re: Hunter facing charges after death of beloved elk named Bullwinkle
« Reply #26 on: May 15, 2016, 10:17:45 AM »
I believe a phone conversation if in fact went down is no excuse on where you killed the animal. Come on we all know where and when we can hunt and ifnwe don't we shouldn't be hunting. Like I said though who really knows all the facts this is between the hunter and the state officials now hownit stands. I hope though for the hunter he was in fact doing the right thing

You have every right to that opinion. My opinion is that if you are unsure of something you should be able to call your well paid public servant that is supposed to be the professional on the subject and get clarification.

I will say I would rather be in the hunters shoes facing that legal issue, than facing the civil issue the guy will be dealing with for publicly dragging the hunter through the mud. Win lose or draw it's going to be a really long drawn out EXPENSIVE situation.

Common sense would seem to dictate that it's foolish to talk about an issue on a public forum with legal action pending, regardless of whether you side with the plaintiff or the defendant.

I haven't and won't say anything that will have any effect on either issue. I could say a lot more on the issue, but will not for the exact reason you mentioned.

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Re: Hunter facing charges after death of beloved elk named Bullwinkle
« Reply #27 on: May 15, 2016, 10:25:15 AM »
You state you signed up to this forum to hopefully clear some things up.

Please, by all means, clear things up.
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Re: Hunter facing charges after death of beloved elk named Bullwinkle
« Reply #28 on: May 15, 2016, 10:26:36 AM »
You state you signed up to this forum to hopefully clear some things up.

Please, by all means, clear things up.

I was also wondering when that was going to happen!

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Re: Hunter facing charges after death of beloved elk named Bullwinkle
« Reply #29 on: May 15, 2016, 10:36:16 AM »
I love this "I know but I'm not gonna tell you" stuff...

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Re: Hunter facing charges after death of beloved elk named Bullwinkle
« Reply #30 on: May 15, 2016, 10:41:40 AM »
Seems unlikely someone with a tag link that would risk a chance of getting in trouble at least you'd hope not

I'm not going to comment on any details while this case is open  or before the person on this forum gets served. I will tell you great steps were taken to do the right thing.

And the right thing was?  :chuckle:

Welcome to the site. Pretty big first couple of posts.

And who is getting served if you don't mind me asking.

Thank you for the welcome.  I signed up to this forum to hopefully clear things up some. There has been a lot of false information posted on this site. A call was made to the game department asking if it was ok to shoot the bull where it located. After Morgan Grant from the game department checked into it another phone conversation took place and the hunters were told they absolutely could harvest that bull with that tag at that location. If in fact the info given was wrong the game department is the one to be blamed.

As for the person on here that will be dealing with legal issues, I can't tell you who that is at this point. But if you read the thread on this topic that was removed it would be really easy for you to guess who.

Legal precedence was set in this situation when good old uncle Joe told every one to I said, ‘Jill, if there’s ever a problem, just walk out on the balcony here, put that double-barrel shotgun and fire two blasts outside the house"

Didn't work for anyone who did that and used it as a defense...
http://therighttobear.com/why-a-man-ended-up-in-jail-after-listening-to-joe-bidens-advice-on-guns/
http://www.politico.com/story/2015/03/joe-biden-defense-gun-case-jeffrey-barton-116178

so if the vice president tells you it's ok to break the law and it doesn't work as a legal defense the word of a sergeant or anyone for that matter at wdfw ain't gonna work :twocents:

POACHING and those who condoned this however high up in wdfw should be terminated ! Money shouldn't allow you to break the law :bash:
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Re: Hunter facing charges after death of beloved elk named Bullwinkle
« Reply #31 on: May 15, 2016, 10:44:08 AM »
A repeat offender with deep pockets with a defense of an alleged phone call. 

Fines and reparations won't mean anything.  IF WDFW isn't too addicted to his money, his hunting privileges should be revoked.

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Re: Hunter facing charges after death of beloved elk named Bullwinkle
« Reply #32 on: May 15, 2016, 10:58:27 AM »
My recollection of what I had read a few years ago re: the earlier incident was that those who had been involved in the investigation were convinced they had solid evidence of a game law violation and involving the aerial spotting and felt betrayed that that charge had not been pursued.   But that charge was never pursued so I don't think the case could be made that he is a repeat game law violator.  The fact is though he did admit to breaking other laws while hunting in that case.   

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Re: Hunter facing charges after death of beloved elk named Bullwinkle
« Reply #33 on: May 15, 2016, 11:00:23 AM »
My guess is people have joined the forum to distract or draw attention away from there involvement in a messy situation . The fact that people have posted the bull was shot in 334 is true ,the involved parties aren't denying that . Whether or not they knew it was illegal or if they had permission is what the courts will decide . My guess is a few new members are also old members . I know that  there was plenty of peacocking and discriminating evidence flying around in pm's . The bottom line is this whole thing is a mess and the defendant has deep enough pockets that the whole thing wont matter much to him . My hopes are the whole thing is resolved before Sept 1st in regards to the 2016 auction tag . I imagine if found guilty he could just gift it to a friend all though I'm not sure if that's legal .
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Re: Hunter facing charges after death of beloved elk named Bullwinkle
« Reply #34 on: May 15, 2016, 11:02:04 AM »
Crazy how politicians can slander and lie about each other and nothing happens is nuts in comparison to what has been said about the defendant . 
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Re: Hunter facing charges after death of beloved elk named Bullwinkle
« Reply #35 on: May 15, 2016, 11:16:33 AM »
End result of this whole debacle?- You or I will not have to obey GMU boundaries, because apparently they mean nothing.

I sincerely hope this mount on the wall justifies the means...
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Re: Hunter facing charges after death of beloved elk named Bullwinkle
« Reply #36 on: May 15, 2016, 11:24:51 AM »
End result of this whole debacle?- You or I will not have to obey GMU boundaries, because apparently they mean nothing.

I sincerely hope this mount on the wall justifies the means...
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Re: Hunter facing charges after death of beloved elk named Bullwinkle
« Reply #37 on: May 15, 2016, 11:56:38 AM »
My guess is people have joined the forum to distract or draw attention away from there involvement in a messy situation . The fact that people have posted the bull was shot in 334 is true ,the involved parties aren't denying that . Whether or not they knew it was illegal or if they had permission is what the courts will decide . My guess is a few new members are also old members . I know that  there was plenty of peacocking and discriminating evidence flying around in pm's . The bottom line is this whole thing is a mess and the defendant has deep enough pockets that the whole thing wont matter much to him . My hopes are the whole thing is resolved before Sept 1st in regards to the 2016 auction tag . I imagine if found guilty he could just gift it to a friend all though I'm not sure if that's legal .
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Re: Hunter facing charges after death of beloved elk named Bullwinkle
« Reply #38 on: May 15, 2016, 11:59:31 AM »
oh good, another animal with a name was killed by a person with too much money that calls himself a hunter and has the money to hire people to do the hard work for him. I think the term harvester would be more appropriate... or poacher.
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Re: Hunter facing charges after death of beloved elk named Bullwinkle
« Reply #39 on: May 15, 2016, 12:00:12 PM »
I read some of the posts in the other thread with mild interest.

Seeing the story laid out in that article, and if the facts are as they appear, all I have to say is WOW  :yike:
So much wrong about the whole scenario.
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Re: Hunter facing charges after death of beloved elk named Bullwinkle
« Reply #40 on: May 15, 2016, 12:02:06 PM »
I read some of the posts in the other thread with mild interest.

Seeing the story laid out in that article, and if the facts are as they appear, all I have to say is WOW  :yike:
So much wrong about the whole scenario.
:yeah:  I didn't bother reading the last thread for the most part, what a mess!

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Re: Hunter facing charges after death of beloved elk named Bullwinkle
« Reply #41 on: May 15, 2016, 12:22:37 PM »
 How does an anonymous screen name get sued?
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Re: Hunter facing charges after death of beloved elk named Bullwinkle
« Reply #42 on: May 15, 2016, 12:34:36 PM »
remember there no freedom of speech  in merica !
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Re: Hunter facing charges after death of beloved elk named Bullwinkle
« Reply #43 on: May 15, 2016, 12:35:21 PM »
How does an anonymous screen name get sued?

Not sure if you're joking or not, but this is straight out of the forum rules:

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Re: Hunter facing charges after death of beloved elk named Bullwinkle
« Reply #44 on: May 15, 2016, 12:37:23 PM »
How does an anonymous screen name get sued?

Not sure if you're joking or not, but this is straight out of the forum rules:

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I don't know the guy's name. Do you have to provide your full legal name when you register here? I honestly have no clue as I signed up a really long time ago and don't remember.
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Re: Hunter facing charges after death of beloved elk named Bullwinkle
« Reply #45 on: May 15, 2016, 12:40:35 PM »
 Ironic that the day after Dale closes down the thread, this article comes out and starts a whole new one.
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Re: Hunter facing charges after death of beloved elk named Bullwinkle
« Reply #46 on: May 15, 2016, 12:45:50 PM »
Ironic that the day after Dale closes down the thread, this article comes out and starts a whole new one.

Not ironic, disrespectful.
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Re: Hunter facing charges after death of beloved elk named Bullwinkle
« Reply #47 on: May 15, 2016, 12:48:04 PM »
Ironic that the day after Dale closes down the thread, this article comes out and starts a whole new one.

Not ironic, disrespectful.

 The Yakima Herald disrespected Dale? Really?
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Re: Hunter facing charges after death of beloved elk named Bullwinkle
« Reply #48 on: May 15, 2016, 12:50:11 PM »
So ppl are being threatened with lawsuites..topics being closed..women have their own special board... Wow this forum isnt what it was when i signed on

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Re: Hunter facing charges after death of beloved elk named Bullwinkle
« Reply #49 on: May 15, 2016, 12:52:32 PM »
Ironic that the day after Dale closes down the thread, this article comes out and starts a whole new one.

Not ironic, disrespectful.


 The Yakima Herald disrespected Dale? Really?

I guess you did say article, I mis read that. I meant , the need to post this article knowing damn well it would be a continuation of the recently locked thread is disrespectful to this forum and Bearpaw.
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