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HOUND HUNTING IN 426 DIABLO UNIT
Boss .300 winmag:
BIGTEX CAN HUNTERS RUN DOGS IN THIS UNIT FOR RACOON HUNTING? :dunno:
ANYBODY CAN CHIME IN ON THIS, I JUST KNOW BIGTEX HAS THIS KNOWLEDGE, OR WILL LOOK IT UP. :tup:
ITS A TRICK QUESTION FOLKS, BECAREFUL BEFORE YOU ANSWER IT. ;)
bigtex:
:chuckle:
It is indeed a trick question!! You wont find this in the WDFW regs!!
Most of GMU 426 is the Ross Lake National Recreation Area which is managed by the National Park Service as part of the North Cascades National Park. Under federal law (36 CFR 2.15(a)) it is illegal to have a dog off leash in a NPS unit. However, 36 CFR 2.15(b) says a park may be used in support of hunting if allowed by the park superintendent.
Under the Superintendt's Compendium for the complex the use of dogs for hunting purposes is outlined and it is NOT authorized. In fact the justification is this: "Hunting with dogs is normally done during hours of darkness, which necessitates the use of an artificial light" The NPS can authorize the use of a light/spotlight to view wildlife, however nearly every park bans such use. So the NPS at North Cascades says since you typically hunt with dogs at night but then you'll need a light (which is illegal) thus the use of dogs to hunt is illegal.
Page 13: https://www.nps.gov/noca/learn/management/upload/2016-Compendium-Final-combined-1-2.pdf
This has always been an issue of mine with WDFW. People read the hunting regs but they fail to mention some of the federal restrictions at National Wildlife Refuges and the NPS lands open to hunting. So you think your legal only to violate your breaking federal law. One of my famous examples is coyotes. It is illegal to hunt coyotes in WA on National Wildlife Refuges with the exception of the Pend Orielle NWR.
Of course any non-NPS lands in GMU 426 this restriction does not apply!
Boss .300 winmag:
Thanks Bigtex, I think WDFW should have to state in the hunting regs that this is the case for this unit and others affected by federal regs most folks don't know exist. :twocents:
bigtex:
--- Quote from: Boss .300 winmag on August 24, 2016, 10:26:40 PM --- Thanks Bigtex, I think WDFW should have to state in the hunting regs that this is the case for this unit and others affected by federal regs most folks don't know exist. :twocents:
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I agree. Most states do. It actually causes a difficulty to enforce as well. Since these regs aren't written into the state code (WAC) they aren't illegal under state law so WDFW for example cant write a ticket for it. If they encounter the violation they then have to call a federal LEO to write a federal ticket.
I should also mention this restriction also applies to the portion of GMU 244 that is in the Lake Chelan National Recreation Area since it is also managed as part of the North Cascades National Park Complex.
Boss .300 winmag:
--- Quote from: bigtex on August 24, 2016, 10:33:11 PM ---
--- Quote from: Boss .300 winmag on August 24, 2016, 10:26:40 PM --- Thanks Bigtex, I think WDFW should have to state in the hunting regs that this is the case for this unit and others affected by federal regs most folks don't know exist. :twocents:
--- End quote ---
I agree. Most states do. It actually causes a difficulty to enforce as well. Since these regs aren't written into the state code (WAC) they aren't illegal under state law so WDFW for example cant write a ticket for it. If they encounter the violation they then have to call a federal LEO to write a federal ticket.
I should also mention this restriction also applies to the portion of GMU 244 that is in the Lake Chelan National Recreation Area since it is also managed as part of the North Cascades National Park Complex.
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Your almost guaranteed to get written up by Park Rangers in 426 Diablo in IMHFO than WDFW.
What's the best way to get the WDFW regs changed to address this oversite? :dunno:
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