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Re: 875 yard .308 Elk kill
« Reply #50 on: November 10, 2016, 02:47:18 PM »
And that's hunting these days?   Hmmmm not for me

It's not hunting.
I get if that's not your style. I've shot some close and some long range shots. Would like to see landowners "rule book" on what is and isn't hunting.

I ain't got no hard core ranges in mind.  But I remember my grandpa teaching me how  to hunt and what hunting was all about.  It was about a lot more than the kill.  As far as killing animals long range, each to their own. 

In today's instant gratification society........
You guys get the rest.....
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Re: 875 yard .308 Elk kill
« Reply #51 on: November 10, 2016, 02:48:05 PM »
To be fair, the guy missed his target drastically. Pretty sure he wasn't trying to make that neck shot. Could just as easily missed the other direction and clipped it's butt.

I feel like he missed his intended target and hit the innocent calf bystander.

They called the shot on the smaller animal

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Re: 875 yard .308 Elk kill
« Reply #52 on: November 10, 2016, 02:50:34 PM »
To be fair, the guy missed his target drastically. Pretty sure he wasn't trying to make that neck shot. Could just as easily missed the other direction and clipped it's butt.

I feel like he missed his intended target and hit the innocent calf bystander.

They called the shot on the smaller animal


OK. I don't have any sound on my work computer.
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Re: 875 yard .308 Elk kill
« Reply #53 on: November 10, 2016, 02:53:07 PM »
To be fair, the guy missed his target drastically. Pretty sure he wasn't trying to make that neck shot. Could just as easily missed the other direction and clipped it's butt.

I feel like he missed his intended target and hit the innocent calf bystander.

They called the shot on the smaller animal


OK. I don't have any sound on my work computer.

Reasoning was how far they had to pack out.

You would have to be a complete moron to miss by that far at 875.

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Re: 875 yard .308 Elk kill
« Reply #54 on: November 10, 2016, 03:01:43 PM »
To be fair, the guy missed his target drastically. Pretty sure he wasn't trying to make that neck shot. Could just as easily missed the other direction and clipped it's butt.

I feel like he missed his intended target and hit the innocent calf bystander.

They called the shot on the smaller animal


OK. I don't have any sound on my work computer.

Reasoning was how far they had to pack out.

You would have to be a complete moron to miss by that far at 875.
I'm guessing he missed his target by 3 feet ish?
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Re: 875 yard .308 Elk kill
« Reply #55 on: November 10, 2016, 03:10:27 PM »
To be fair, the guy missed his target drastically. Pretty sure he wasn't trying to make that neck shot. Could just as easily missed the other direction and clipped it's butt.

I feel like he missed his intended target and hit the innocent calf bystander.

They called the shot on the smaller animal


OK. I don't have any sound on my work computer.

Reasoning was how far they had to pack out.

You would have to be a complete moron to miss by that far at 875.
Wonders never cease to amaze me.
Nothing for nothing, but that's weird to me. I'm trying to have that conversation in my head. I'm going to shoot the smaller elk because it's smaller and we have too far to pack it out??
Maybe they should have hunted a little closer to the road. Better yet...maybe if they didn't have to shoot so far, it would have been closer to the road.
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Re: 875 yard .308 Elk kill
« Reply #56 on: November 10, 2016, 03:15:05 PM »
To be fair, the guy missed his target drastically. Pretty sure he wasn't trying to make that neck shot. Could just as easily missed the other direction and clipped it's butt.

I feel like he missed his intended target and hit the innocent calf bystander.

They called the shot on the smaller animal


OK. I don't have any sound on my work computer.

Reasoning was how far they had to pack out.

You would have to be a complete moron to miss by that far at 875.
I'm guessing he missed his target by 3 feet ish?

He hit the animal he was aiming at.

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Re: 875 yard .308 Elk kill
« Reply #57 on: November 10, 2016, 03:30:17 PM »
To be fair, the guy missed his target drastically. Pretty sure he wasn't trying to make that neck shot. Could just as easily missed the other direction and clipped it's butt.

I feel like he missed his intended target and hit the innocent calf bystander.

it stated before the shot that the young cow was his target. 
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Re: 875 yard .308 Elk kill
« Reply #58 on: November 10, 2016, 03:41:18 PM »
To be fair, the guy missed his target drastically. Pretty sure he wasn't trying to make that neck shot. Could just as easily missed the other direction and clipped it's butt.

I feel like he missed his intended target and hit the innocent calf bystander.

They called the shot on the smaller animal


OK. I don't have any sound on my work computer.

Reasoning was how far they had to pack out.

You would have to be a complete moron to miss by that far at 875.
Wonders never cease to amaze me.
Nothing for nothing, but that's weird to me. I'm trying to have that conversation in my head. I'm going to shoot the smaller elk because it's smaller and we have too far to pack it out??
Maybe they should have hunted a little closer to the road. Better yet...maybe if they didn't have to shoot so far, it would have been closer to the road.

looks like they had horses with them...
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875 yard .308 Elk kill
« Reply #59 on: November 10, 2016, 04:03:37 PM »
To be fair, the guy missed his target drastically. Pretty sure he wasn't trying to make that neck shot. Could just as easily missed the other direction and clipped it's butt.

I feel like he missed his intended target and hit the innocent calf bystander.

They called the shot on the smaller animal


OK. I don't have any sound on my work computer.

Reasoning was how far they had to pack out.

You would have to be a complete moron to miss by that far at 875.
Wonders never cease to amaze me.
Nothing for nothing, but that's weird to me. I'm trying to have that conversation in my head. I'm going to shoot the smaller elk because it's smaller and we have too far to pack it out??
Maybe they should have hunted a little closer to the road. Better yet...maybe if they didn't have to shoot so far, it would have been closer to the road.

looks like they had horses with them...

Just saw that too. Just have to watch till the end.
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Re: 875 yard .308 Elk kill
« Reply #60 on: November 12, 2016, 07:58:49 PM »
you could do that with an AR-15 type rifle  :chuckle:

6.5BRX and .270AR come to mind.

I'm intrigued.......


Wonders never cease to amaze me.
Nothing for nothing, but that's weird to me. I'm trying to have that conversation in my head. I'm going to shoot the smaller elk because it's smaller and we have too far to pack it out??
Maybe they should have hunted a little closer to the road. Better yet...maybe if they didn't have to shoot so far, it would have been closer to the road.


I have this conversation with myself every time I think about shooting any critter. Have you ever tried to carry a porcupine 2.4 miles back to the truck? It makes you reconsider your views on road hunting! :chuckle:

Am I the only one who's amazed that he made that shot with a Vortex PST? The fact that he was able to make out the elk at that range through that scope is a noteworthy feat if you ask me!

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Re: 875 yard .308 Elk kill
« Reply #61 on: November 12, 2016, 08:41:13 PM »
Boiler room is usually a heart/lung shot.  Just sayin'.

I didn't see where it hit. I thought it was the boiler room from the way it went down. Spine then?
if you look at the video at 8:45 you can see the wound in the upper spine area in front of the shoulders...i wouln't neccessarily classify this as a "neck shot" ...have no idea why they targeted this cow and said that it would be "easier" to pack out as far as the distance from the road when they are packing with horses...the cow above this one in the video appears to be almost double the size of the one he killed.  As far as the Carlos Hathcock similarites someone made in the post Hathcock used a remington 30-06 (which is similar to the 308 in ballistics) but everything that i have researched has shown that his shots over 1000 yards, including his documented 2,500 yard shot) was done with a 50 bmg...even the shot he killed the NVA sniper that was shot trough the scope was at around 100 yards even though that was tried to being accurate in the American Sniper movie...not saying that Chris Kyle didn't kill him at that range but there is no way with the drop of the bullet at a mile that it went through the scope and killed him...just my  :twocents:
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Re: 875 yard .308 Elk kill
« Reply #62 on: November 12, 2016, 09:01:24 PM »
Boiler room is usually a heart/lung shot.  Just sayin'.

I didn't see where it hit. I thought it was the boiler room from the way it went down. Spine then?
if you look at the video at 8:45 you can see the wound in the upper spine area in front of the shoulders...i wouln't neccessarily classify this as a "neck shot" ...have no idea why they targeted this cow and said that it would be "easier" to pack out as far as the distance from the road when they are packing with horses...the cow above this one in the video appears to be almost double the size of the one he killed.  As far as the Carlos Hathcock similarites someone made in the post Hathcock used a remington 30-06 (which is similar to the 308 in ballistics) but everything that i have researched has shown that his shots over 1000 yards, including his documented 2,500 yard shot) was done with a 50 bmg...even the shot he killed the NVA sniper that was shot trough the scope was at around 100 yards even though that was tried to being accurate in the American Sniper movie...not saying that Chris Kyle didn't kill him at that range but there is no way with the drop of the bullet at a mile that it went through the scope and killed him...just my  :twocents:

Uh your losing me 50 BMG wasn't even out during VIetnam.
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Re: 875 yard .308 Elk kill
« Reply #63 on: November 12, 2016, 09:05:46 PM »
Boiler room is usually a heart/lung shot.  Just sayin'.

I didn't see where it hit. I thought it was the boiler room from the way it went down. Spine then?
if you look at the video at 8:45 you can see the wound in the upper spine area in front of the shoulders...i wouln't neccessarily classify this as a "neck shot" ...have no idea why they targeted this cow and said that it would be "easier" to pack out as far as the distance from the road when they are packing with horses...the cow above this one in the video appears to be almost double the size of the one he killed.  As far as the Carlos Hathcock similarites someone made in the post Hathcock used a remington 30-06 (which is similar to the 308 in ballistics) but everything that i have researched has shown that his shots over 1000 yards, including his documented 2,500 yard shot) was done with a 50 bmg...even the shot he killed the NVA sniper that was shot trough the scope was at around 100 yards even though that was tried to being accurate in the American Sniper movie...not saying that Chris Kyle didn't kill him at that range but there is no way with the drop of the bullet at a mile that it went through the scope and killed him...just my  :twocents:

Uh your losing me 50 BMG wasn't even out during VIetnam.

Uhhhh. It had been out for quite a while by Vietnam. If you are thinking Barrett style rifles you are right. Hathcock used a M2 with an improvised optic.
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Re: 875 yard .308 Elk kill
« Reply #64 on: November 12, 2016, 09:21:53 PM »
yup i mis-stated the type...you guys are right with the M2
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Re: 875 yard .308 Elk kill
« Reply #65 on: November 12, 2016, 09:27:31 PM »
Hathcock used a Winchester Model 70, in 3006 with a 8X Unirti scope.
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Re: 875 yard .308 Elk kill
« Reply #66 on: November 13, 2016, 12:40:56 AM »
Look it's like this. I have friends that can make that exact shot in most any conditions. I have the same rifles they have and won't shoot big game over 500 M.

30-06, 308, 270, 260. It has nothing to do with the round but everything to do with my ability and confidence behind the rifle. Unless you are using a stick and string you made with wood arrows and bird feathers for fletchings.  We are all using some sort of technological advantage. So to say it's not right because you prefer spot and stock or another form is your choice. It does look like the shooter missed and got lucky. But there are people out there that take and make that shot with a higher percentage than the average shooter at 100M. So don't bash the shot. You can disagree with it and that's fine. We are all untitled to our choice. Just like some of us meat hunt and some of us only want mature animals. Some of us modern rifle and some archery and some muzzle load. It all personal preference and ability.

Not trying to ruffle any feathers but I know people that can make that shot all day long. Hell my dad would take that shot as well. He was a shooter before joining civilian life and would tell you the vertebrae he hit while we were walking up to the animal. It's amazing when you get to see it in person.


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Re: 875 yard .308 Elk kill
« Reply #67 on: November 13, 2016, 02:56:00 AM »
I'd never want to shoot that far that late, but if you got the gear and tenacity to do so more power to you. 200-500 yard is my max especially when one considers packing meat out.
Good shot though if you have the confidence in your gun and abilities no big deal.
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Re: 875 yard .308 Elk kill
« Reply #68 on: November 13, 2016, 02:38:29 PM »
My apologies! I stated earlier that he must have missed the upper cow and got lucky and hit the calf. The sound didn't work the first time I watched. So he was shooting at the calf. Ok so he got a portion of the meat he would have gotten had he shot the cow instead. Hey he had to go to the elk anyway. I personally would have taken the cow, even if it meant two days of packing. But that is just me. Still I wonder why with daylight hours still there, why people don't use there hunting ability to stalk an animal. Almost anyone can shoot a well equipped rifle at a target at that range and hit the bullseye. And that is just marksmanship, with a little tuning. But a true hunter I thought would try his real skills and try for the close shot. Is anyone with me... And not saying any of this to offend anyone.

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Re: 875 yard .308 Elk kill
« Reply #69 on: November 13, 2016, 02:50:49 PM »
My apologies! I stated earlier that he must have missed the upper cow and got lucky and hit the calf. The sound didn't work the first time I watched. So he was shooting at the calf. Ok so he got a portion of the meat he would have gotten had he shot the cow instead. Hey he had to go to the elk anyway. I personally would have taken the cow, even if it meant two days of packing. But that is just me. Still I wonder why with daylight hours still there, why people don't use there hunting ability to stalk an animal. Almost anyone can shoot a well equipped rifle at a target at that range and hit the bullseye. And that is just marksmanship, with a little tuning. But a true hunter I thought would try his real skills and try for the close shot. Is anyone with me... And not saying any of this to offend anyone.

I could care less about the stalk and will shoot as soon as I have a viable legal shot.


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Re: 875 yard .308 Elk kill
« Reply #70 on: November 13, 2016, 03:00:28 PM »
My apologies! I stated earlier that he must have missed the upper cow and got lucky and hit the calf. The sound didn't work the first time I watched. So he was shooting at the calf. Ok so he got a portion of the meat he would have gotten had he shot the cow instead. Hey he had to go to the elk anyway. I personally would have taken the cow, even if it meant two days of packing. But that is just me. Still I wonder why with daylight hours still there, why people don't use there hunting ability to stalk an animal. Almost anyone can shoot a well equipped rifle at a target at that range and hit the bullseye. And that is just marksmanship, with a little tuning. But a true hunter I thought would try his real skills and try for the close shot. Is anyone with me... And not saying any of this to offend anyone.
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Re: 875 yard .308 Elk kill
« Reply #71 on: November 13, 2016, 03:06:07 PM »
I'm right, you're wrong case closed next topic....
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« Reply #72 on: November 13, 2016, 03:07:52 PM »
I'm right, you're wrong case closed next topic....
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Re: 875 yard .308 Elk kill
« Reply #73 on: November 14, 2016, 12:18:30 PM »
Only 3 pages? I'm disappointed, I thought this one would have some legs.
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Re: 875 yard .308 Elk kill
« Reply #74 on: November 14, 2016, 12:40:24 PM »
Hathcock used a Winchester Model 70, in 3006 with a 8X Unirti scope.

My mistake.  My friend Rocky, who was a Scout/Sniper during the same period told me it was a .308, or at least that's what I remember. I'll have to double-check my signed copy of Marine Sniper. It's not really signed by Charles Henderson, the author. It's signed by Hathcock.  :) Pretty cool to have.
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