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Re: ‘Bullwinkle’ elk poaching case postponed again
« Reply #50 on: January 24, 2017, 04:27:38 PM »
What exactly is the issue people have with delaying the trial? If it's just because they don't like him throwing his money around let me be the first to say I would love to be able to throw line around and would use any avenue I could to get out of a conviction especially if I felt I was innocent.

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Re: ‘Bullwinkle’ elk poaching case postponed again
« Reply #51 on: January 24, 2017, 04:30:59 PM »
What exactly is the issue people have with delaying the trial? If it's just because they don't like him throwing his money around let me be the first to say I would love to be able to throw line around and would use any avenue I could to get out of a conviction especially if I felt I was innocent.

That's just it, he knows he's not innocent so he keeps kicking the can down the road either to keep hunting, or wear down the prosecution to dismiss, or some deal where he loses nothing. The money is not the problem it's just a symptom.  :twocents:
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Re: ‘Bullwinkle’ elk poaching case postponed again
« Reply #52 on: January 24, 2017, 04:31:57 PM »
What exactly is the issue people have with delaying the trial? If it's just because they don't like him throwing his money around let me be the first to say I would love to be able to throw line around and would use any avenue I could to get out of a conviction especially if I felt I was innocent.
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Re: ‘Bullwinkle’ elk poaching case postponed again
« Reply #53 on: January 24, 2017, 05:28:16 PM »
I don't know his guilt but assuming he is guilty I am still irritated at the system not TR. If the system is asking criminals to be honorable and not take advantage of its "loopholes" then I would say that's a pretty dumb system.

I will admit to not knowing what the precursor to being granted an extension is but if the system says you can get them and it helps your case then get them. Why would a criminal or an innocent man not take every advantage he can get?

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Re: ‘Bullwinkle’ elk poaching case postponed again
« Reply #54 on: January 24, 2017, 05:35:51 PM »
What exactly is the issue people have with delaying the trial? If it's just because they don't like him throwing his money around let me be the first to say I would love to be able to throw line around and would use any avenue I could to get out of a conviction especially if I felt I was innocent.

Innocence is based on the entitlement that he feels comes with money?
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Re: ‘Bullwinkle’ elk poaching case postponed again
« Reply #55 on: January 24, 2017, 05:47:56 PM »
What exactly is the issue people have with delaying the trial? If it's just because they don't like him throwing his money around let me be the first to say I would love to be able to throw line around and would use any avenue I could to get out of a conviction especially if I felt I was innocent.

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Re: ‘Bullwinkle’ elk poaching case postponed again
« Reply #56 on: January 24, 2017, 05:56:44 PM »
What exactly is the issue people have with delaying the trial? If it's just because they don't like him throwing his money around let me be the first to say I would love to be able to throw line around and would use any avenue I could to get out of a conviction especially if I felt I was innocent.

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Re: ‘Bullwinkle’ elk poaching case postponed again
« Reply #57 on: January 24, 2017, 06:00:27 PM »
I've had public defense cases that go much longer and delayed for additional motions.  You don't need money to do it.  Anyone can file motions.  It's not the system.  Ultimately the judge can force it to go forward or not.  The judge can force him to not hunt in the interim if he wants.  It's not the system, just the judge making decisions he feels is appropriate.  If you don't like how the judge is doing things, they have elections that can change that.  There is no secret to filing a motion and arguing them.  You guys sell your white privilege and money story all you want but you sound like a bunch of whining liberals.  There is no benefit in him delaying this other than he gets his motions heard before the trial.   He is trying to get the charge dismissed.  Not sure why you are mad he is holding the prosecutor to their standard under our Constitution because you perceive him as guilty.  If public perception thought he was not guilty then it would be ok?  Just chill and there will be an outcome one way or another eventually.

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Re: ‘Bullwinkle’ elk poaching case postponed again
« Reply #58 on: January 24, 2017, 06:11:12 PM »
I saw Bullwinkle' s cape getting salted last week..... grin


Must be petty sure it's gonna get mounted???
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Re: ‘Bullwinkle’ elk poaching case postponed again
« Reply #59 on: January 24, 2017, 06:15:54 PM »
I've had public defense cases that go much longer and delayed for additional motions.  You don't need money to do it.  Anyone can file motions.  It's not the system.  Ultimately the judge can force it to go forward or not.  The judge can force him to not hunt in the interim if he wants.  It's not the system, just the judge making decisions he feels is appropriate.  If you don't like how the judge is doing things, they have elections that can change that.  There is no secret to filing a motion and arguing them.  You guys sell your white privilege and money story all you want but you sound like a bunch of whining liberals.  There is no benefit in him delaying this other than he gets his motions heard before the trial.   He is trying to get the charge dismissed.  Not sure why you are mad he is holding the prosecutor to their standard under our Constitution because you perceive him as guilty.  If public perception thought he was not guilty then it would be ok?  Just chill and there will be an outcome one way or another eventually.

Patience is hard but I'm willing to wait this out to see the outcome! But I do question him being able to keep on hunting and fishing? I know innocent until proven guilty but he seems to get special privileges that the blue collar boys don't  :bash:

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Re: ‘Bullwinkle’ elk poaching case postponed again
« Reply #60 on: January 24, 2017, 06:20:02 PM »
I saw Bullwinkle' s cape getting salted last week..... grin


Must be petty sure it's gonna get mounted???

Gets mounted or not. Still gotta preserve the cape no matter what the out come is. Yea. You can stick in freezer and hope it don't get freezer burnt and hair slips. Then he gets found innocent. That's not gonna look good for the taxidermy shop.  :dunno:

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Re: ‘Bullwinkle’ elk poaching case postponed again
« Reply #61 on: January 24, 2017, 07:57:53 PM »
I don't know his guilt but assuming he is guilty I am still irritated at the system not TR. If the system is asking criminals to be honorable and not take advantage of its "loopholes" then I would say that's a pretty dumb system.

 Are you seriously unsure of the rules or is this a attempt at spinning the issue into a different discussion? :dunno:

 There is no disputing the FACT that he killed a bull in a unit closed to ANYONE hunting branched antler bulls, there are no "loopholes".
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Re: ‘Bullwinkle’ elk poaching case postponed again
« Reply #62 on: January 24, 2017, 08:18:33 PM »
I don't know his guilt but assuming he is guilty I am still irritated at the system not TR. If the system is asking criminals to be honorable and not take advantage of its "loopholes" then I would say that's a pretty dumb system.

 Are you seriously unsure of the rules or is this a attempt at spinning the issue into a different discussion? :dunno:

 There is no disputing the FACT that he killed a bull in a unit closed to ANYONE hunting branched antler bulls, there are no "loopholes".

I wasn't referring to any loophole in the no branch antlered bulls rule I was just referring to the continually delaying issue. It seems this is not uncommon but people seem to indicate it's a ploy to get him off the hook. I don't know one way or another if that helps or not I am just saying guilty or no why would anyone not use any advantage they can get?

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Re: ‘Bullwinkle’ elk poaching case postponed again
« Reply #63 on: January 24, 2017, 09:13:17 PM »
I saw Bullwinkle' s cape getting salted last week..... grin


Must be petty sure it's gonna get mounted???


Says the guy that swore he wouldn't even be charged!  :chuckle:

Were you one that said you would donate to the youth turkey fund if he was charged?  :dunno: Dust the salt off that checkbook!  :chuckle:



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Re: ‘Bullwinkle’ elk poaching case postponed again
« Reply #64 on: January 24, 2017, 09:22:45 PM »
He might have to work overtime stacking cedar fence posts. :chuckle:

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Re: ‘Bullwinkle’ elk poaching case postponed again
« Reply #65 on: January 24, 2017, 10:32:12 PM »
I don't know his guilt but assuming he is guilty I am still irritated at the system not TR. If the system is asking criminals to be honorable and not take advantage of its "loopholes" then I would say that's a pretty dumb system.

 Are you seriously unsure of the rules or is this a attempt at spinning the issue into a different discussion? :dunno:

 There is no disputing the FACT that he killed a bull in a unit closed to ANYONE hunting branched antler bulls, there are no "loopholes".

I wasn't referring to any loophole in the no branch antlered bulls rule I was just referring to the continually delaying issue. It seems this is not uncommon but people seem to indicate it's a ploy to get him off the hook. I don't know one way or another if that helps or not I am just saying guilty or no why would anyone not use any advantage they can get?

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Re: ‘Bullwinkle’ elk poaching case postponed again
« Reply #66 on: January 25, 2017, 07:29:37 AM »
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Re: ‘Bullwinkle’ elk poaching case postponed again
« Reply #67 on: January 25, 2017, 07:32:23 AM »
I saw Bullwinkle' s cape getting salted last week..... grin


Must be petty sure it's gonna get mounted???


Says the guy that swore he wouldn't even be charged!  :chuckle:

Were you one that said you would donate to the youth turkey fund if he was charged?  :dunno: Dust the salt off that checkbook!  :chuckle:

Naw, it was a conviction, which he won't be convicted.... someone else will be writing a check though.... haha
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Re: ‘Bullwinkle’ elk poaching case postponed again
« Reply #68 on: January 26, 2017, 07:04:09 AM »

Patience is hard but I'm willing to wait this out to see the outcome! But I do question him being able to keep on hunting and fishing? I know innocent until proven guilty but he seems to get special privileges that the blue collar boys don't  :bash:

Yes, this is unusual.  At first he did have the condition to not hunt which is rather standard in 90% of the cases.  I've had many blue collar clients get this same condition lifted or not imposed so it's not a money thing.  Reichert's attorney filed a motion to reconsider that and that condition of release was struck from the pretrial conditions.  I'm not sure the argument made but this judge has continually denied Reichert's motions but granted this one.  Must be some merit to it but we were not there and don't know the facts so it's hard for anyone to criticize the judge for this decision without more.

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Re: ‘Bullwinkle’ elk poaching case postponed again
« Reply #69 on: January 26, 2017, 07:12:06 AM »

Patience is hard but I'm willing to wait this out to see the outcome! But I do question him being able to keep on hunting and fishing? I know innocent until proven guilty but he seems to get special privileges that the blue collar boys don't  :bash:

Yes, this is unusual.  At first he did have the condition to not hunt which is rather standard in 90% of the cases.  I've had many blue collar clients get this same condition lifted or not imposed so it's not a money thing.  Reichert's attorney filed a motion to reconsider that and that condition of release was struck from the pretrial conditions.  I'm not sure the argument made but this judge has continually denied Reichert's motions but granted this one.  Must be some merit to it but we were not there and don't know the facts so it's hard for anyone to criticize the judge for this decision without more.

I don't know why but I've been sucked into this case. I really appreciate the knowledge shared by those who have it on how this all actually works with the court system.

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Re: ‘Bullwinkle’ elk poaching case postponed again
« Reply #70 on: January 26, 2017, 09:29:10 AM »

Patience is hard but I'm willing to wait this out to see the outcome! But I do question him being able to keep on hunting and fishing? I know innocent until proven guilty but he seems to get special privileges that the blue collar boys don't  :bash:

Yes, this is unusual.  At first he did have the condition to not hunt which is rather standard in 90% of the cases.  I've had many blue collar clients get this same condition lifted or not imposed so it's not a money thing.  Reichert's attorney filed a motion to reconsider that and that condition of release was struck from the pretrial conditions.  I'm not sure the argument made but this judge has continually denied Reichert's motions but granted this one.  Must be some merit to it but we were not there and don't know the facts so it's hard for anyone to criticize the judge for this decision without more.
Since hunting privileges were restored while charged, but not tried for TR; does his case become one that can be used to influence future judge's decisions for future alleged poachers?  Example:  If Joe goes before the judge and the judge takes his hunting privileges, can Joe's lawyer say his prosecutor's case is weaker than TR's so the judge needs to restore Joe's hunting?  Like a new baseline?

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Re: ‘Bullwinkle’ elk poaching case postponed again
« Reply #71 on: January 26, 2017, 09:56:17 AM »
I saw Bullwinkle' s cape getting salted last week..... grin


Must be petty sure it's gonna get mounted???


Says the guy that swore he wouldn't even be charged!  :chuckle:

Were you one that said you would donate to the youth turkey fund if he was charged?  :dunno: Dust the salt off that checkbook!  :chuckle:

Naw, it was a conviction, which he won't be convicted.... someone else will be writing a check though.... haha

Sorry but you said on more than one occasion that...

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 You have a convenient excuse now that those threads have been deleted ???  :rolleyes:
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Re: ‘Bullwinkle’ elk poaching case postponed again
« Reply #72 on: January 26, 2017, 10:15:16 AM »
Keep whining, if he gets convicted of poaching bullwinkle I will pay up, but will jd pay up if he doesn't??? Sounds like this is really bugging you little buddy??

PS while all the haters were crying and whining, sounds like Mr riechert had yet another stellar year.... who'da think it???
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Re: ‘Bullwinkle’ elk poaching case postponed again
« Reply #73 on: January 26, 2017, 10:17:45 AM »
Keep whining, if he gets convicted of poaching bullwinkle I will pay up, but will jd pay up if he doesn't??? Sounds like this is really bugging you little buddy??

PS while all the haters were crying and whining, sounds like Mr riechert had yet another stellar year.... who'da think it???

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Re: ‘Bullwinkle’ elk poaching case postponed again
« Reply #74 on: January 26, 2017, 10:18:56 AM »
Oh yes you did!! $250 upon charges $250 for a guilty verdict...
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