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Re: Is this bull legal in a spike only unit?
« Reply #15 on: December 03, 2016, 11:28:41 PM »
You're grasping at straws lefthook. 100% legal bull. Pass if you want, no way I would though
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Re: Is this bull legal in a spike only unit?
« Reply #16 on: December 03, 2016, 11:29:38 PM »
I wouldn't even think twice about dumping that Elk.

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Re: Is this bull legal in a spike only unit?
« Reply #17 on: December 03, 2016, 11:31:44 PM »
That brow tine branches off at about 2 inches from base.  That's a shooter.  Whats really cool is instead of the 180lb spike your gonna get your gonna get a +300lb mature bull for meat.  I don't really care that we have to hunt spikes but it does bug me that we get the shaft on meat quantity.  I weighed out a rear quarter from a spike and a three point and in what I am guessing as one year older their was a 20lb difference between rear quarters.  A mature 4 1/2 year old or older bull will have twice as much meat as a spike.

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Re: Is this bull legal in a spike only unit?
« Reply #18 on: December 03, 2016, 11:34:32 PM »
My only concern would be whether that brow tine originates more than 4" form where the antler attaches to the skull.

I'm just not sure.......   If I knew it was 3.9999999999999999" or less, then I would dump it for the shear fun of taking a bull like that on a spike hunt.
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Re: Is this bull legal in a spike only unit?
« Reply #19 on: December 03, 2016, 11:41:20 PM »
Most of you guys should know what 4" looks like

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Re: Is this bull legal in a spike only unit?
« Reply #20 on: December 03, 2016, 11:42:43 PM »
Most of you guys should know what 4" looks like
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That first antler fork is 6 inches from the skull. Not legal.
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Re: Is this bull legal in a spike only unit?
« Reply #21 on: December 04, 2016, 12:24:10 AM »
Looks legal to me
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Re: Is this bull legal in a spike only unit?
« Reply #22 on: December 04, 2016, 04:01:58 AM »
Start peeling the garlic.
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Re: Is this bull legal in a spike only unit?
« Reply #23 on: December 04, 2016, 05:30:02 AM »
The rule was apparently written to allow a single browtine .  This ones tine starts or "originates"  but a couple inches from the base 
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Re: Is this bull legal in a spike only unit?
« Reply #24 on: December 04, 2016, 05:34:54 AM »
Choot it choot it.
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Re: Is this bull legal in a spike only unit?
« Reply #25 on: December 04, 2016, 06:32:09 AM »
I'm with Bob33. Looks to be farther than 4" from the base. No way would I take that chance. I have been in a few similar spots and have passed every time. A couple were probably legal but by passing I assured my ability to continue to hunt this state

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Re: Is this bull legal in a spike only unit?
« Reply #26 on: December 04, 2016, 06:55:24 AM »
I'm with Bob33. Looks to be farther than 4" from the base. No way would I take that chance. I have been in a few similar spots and have passed every time. A couple were probably legal but by passing I assured my ability to continue to hunt this state

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I believe bob was referring to guys not being able to measure. I'm pretty sure he thinks it's legal.


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Re: Is this bull legal in a spike only unit?
« Reply #27 on: December 04, 2016, 07:19:03 AM »
Shoot it just don't port a pic on here  :twocents:  :chuckle: :chuckle:

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Re: Is this bull legal in a spike only unit?
« Reply #28 on: December 04, 2016, 07:23:03 AM »
Lotta mass on the bases of that bull which makes me cautious about eyeballing four inches, plus his head and body are BIG which can throw off eye, ear and nose comparisons.  But the big question is how to measure. 

"Originates four inches from... " depends on how it is measured and how they define "originates".  Is the correct legal measurement four inches from base to closest lower side of the eyeguard or is it 4 inches to the middle of the eyeguard base or does the entire base of the eyeguard have to be within 4 inches of the base?  I presume the regs are talking official B&C scoring measurement rules about measuring side points off a main beam but that still leaves it fuzzy to me as to definition of where to precisely measure the "origination".  A post giving the legal definition of originates would be helpful here.

I let a bull walk once that I was and am sure was legal but it was too close to bet a hunting infraction against my ability to eyeball inches. Part of my caution was being with a partner who eyeballed one wrong and killed a marginally illegal bull years ago.  Once in awhile we can't be sure till we put a tape measure on the antlers.  That said, if I was sure it was legal I'd love to tag a bull like this one!



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Re: Is this bull legal in a spike only unit?
« Reply #29 on: December 04, 2016, 07:30:37 AM »
Take him, no way could you fit a 2x4 between the base of that tine and the pedicle
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