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Author Topic: Is this bull legal in a spike only unit?  (Read 46675 times)

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Re: Is this bull legal in a spike only unit?
« Reply #30 on: December 04, 2016, 07:50:22 AM »
Yep, I had a bull like this at 30 yards years ago, didn't know the rule and watched it walk away only to find out I could have legally arrowhead him.

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Re: Is this bull legal in a spike only unit?
« Reply #31 on: December 04, 2016, 08:23:54 AM »
As long as it originates under the ear enough it's good right?  "True spike unit"=illegal "spike unit" legal

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Re: Is this bull legal in a spike only unit?
« Reply #32 on: December 04, 2016, 08:39:16 AM »
As long as it originates under the ear enough it's good right?  "True spike unit"=illegal "spike unit" legal
The ear has nothing to do with its legality.
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Re: Is this bull legal in a spike only unit?
« Reply #33 on: December 04, 2016, 08:40:54 AM »
You're grasping at straws lefthook. 100% legal bull. Pass if you want, no way I would though

I would say letting an animal live is about as far away from grasping at straws as there is.

With your logic, every animal I have passed on was a straw game.

My decision to kill something I am comfortable with has to do with ethics and my personal approach to hunting. I'll let it walk, someone else can kill it.

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Re: Is this bull legal in a spike only unit?
« Reply #34 on: December 04, 2016, 09:08:53 AM »
By the regs that should be a legal bull

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Re: Is this bull legal in a spike only unit?
« Reply #35 on: December 04, 2016, 09:11:37 AM »
You should be eating that bad boy by now.  :twocents:
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Re: Is this bull legal in a spike only unit?
« Reply #36 on: December 04, 2016, 09:17:21 AM »
Two scenarios at play here for me. If I am in my stand and this guy walks out for my first sighting of him, i let him walk just because of the unknown. In this situation where there are trail cam pictures that I can closely examine, that is a dead bull.  :twocents:
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Re: Is this bull legal in a spike only unit?
« Reply #37 on: December 04, 2016, 09:23:19 AM »
You're grasping at straws lefthook. 100% legal bull. Pass if you want, no way I would though

I would say letting an animal live is about as far away from grasping at straws as there is.

With your logic, every animal I have passed on was a straw game.

My decision to kill something I am comfortable with has to do with ethics and my personal approach to hunting. I'll let it walk, someone else can kill it.

So now it's ethics. That's good because your first post on the subject was factually incorrect.
Kindly do not attempt to cloud the issue with too many facts.

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Re: Is this bull legal in a spike only unit?
« Reply #38 on: December 04, 2016, 09:23:44 AM »
I know it has been refuted via other pics, but in that pic it sure looks like a tine at the top of that right antler. Based on that, gotta go with no.
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Re: Is this bull legal in a spike only unit?
« Reply #39 on: December 04, 2016, 09:28:38 AM »
Is it dead yet Bob?????????? :drool:
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Re: Is this bull legal in a spike only unit?
« Reply #40 on: December 04, 2016, 09:30:31 AM »
Funny some of you guys saying don't shoot wouldn't blink an eye at shooting  2x2 muley with a 3/4" eyeguard  :dunno:

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Re: Is this bull legal in a spike only unit?
« Reply #41 on: December 04, 2016, 09:31:25 AM »
Funny some of you guys saying don't shoot wouldn't blink an eye at shooting  2x2 muley with a 3/4" eyeguard  :dunno:

That's funny!  :chuckle:
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Re: Is this bull legal in a spike only unit?
« Reply #42 on: December 04, 2016, 09:36:07 AM »
Legal ONLY if shot with an AR, if chambered in 6.5 caliber,and if, only if, the distance is greater then 400 yards. In that case, yes, drt👍


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Re: Is this bull legal in a spike only unit?
« Reply #43 on: December 04, 2016, 09:38:49 AM »
Funny some of you guys saying don't shoot wouldn't blink an eye at shooting  2x2 muley with a 3/4" eyeguard  :dunno:

That's funny!  :chuckle:
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Re: Is this bull legal in a spike only unit?
« Reply #44 on: December 04, 2016, 09:56:52 AM »
You're grasping at straws lefthook. 100% legal bull. Pass if you want, no way I would though

I would say letting an animal live is about as far away from grasping at straws as there is.

With your logic, every animal I have passed on was a straw game.

My decision to kill something I am comfortable with has to do with ethics and my personal approach to hunting. I'll let it walk, someone else can kill it.

So now it's ethics. That's good because your first post on the subject was factually incorrect.

If it's legal, kill it.

I unfortunately can not make a measurement in the field with in fractions of an inch so I believe it is not a legal kill, using the eyes and judgement which I have been given. I have read posts all over this forum (not this thread) calling 3x3 elk "spikes" because they, for some reason, don't believe eye guards count as points.

My ethical statement is because that bull is nowhere near the spirit of spike only. There is no point in me killing a bull that no way resembles a spike except for an eye guard being possibly 4 inches or so from the base of his right beam and the only way to have a definite answer is to kill it and measure it. I wonder how many "hunters" on here would shoot it, measure the distance from the base and find out it is not legal then walk away from it. Or kill it, finding out later it is not a legal kill and then try to sneak it out of the woods. The two previous statements I find unethical.

Because I wouldn't harvest the animal does not mean that others can't.

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Bob must not think it's legal or there would be a picture of it dead and tagged posted here. If that bull has been harvested and not posted here there could be an issue with it once a measurement was made. We'll see if that bull, dead, get's posted.

 


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