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Re: Idaho unit 26 and 27 advice
« Reply #25 on: January 11, 2017, 10:49:22 AM »
I'm just saying that going 5 or 6 miles into the frank is the equivalent of going 10 into almost any other unit in da ho.
I'd concemtrate on anywhere there aren't roads and ATV networks... it's true, you get away from roads, you'll get away from people.
19, 19A, 20, 20A, 21, 28, 30 in that area will all be in the same ballpark as those wilderness units. A few.of those even fit the bull for the Nov hunt.

Thanks, that helps narrow things down (for me anyway).  Fly-in won't be an option for me since I am a school teacher and I only can arrange so much time off in the fall.  Stuck for a couple of days on an airstrip and I would be in trouble at work.
Since I have never hunted Idaho before, I am just going off hearsay, but I have heard that motorcycles are a problem anywhere there are trails. You mentioned "staying away from the ATV trails", and I know that some units are designated for "non-motorized travel".  What is your experience with people actually following those rules?  Word on the street is that Idaho has trouble enforcing that rule...

There are a good amount of motorcycle trails here in Idaho.  Some are open year round and hunters will use them to access areas easier.  Just look at the NFS maps, they will list the trails in the area and what is or is not allowed on them.
I noticed that in the hunting regs.  Some units are designated "non-motorized traffic only".  I keep hearing about people hiking up trail in a non-motorized area and 3 guys on bikes with rifles blowing past them.  Just wondering if some units are "worse than others" for this kind of thing.  Is Idaho able to enforce this law?

Here is a good source of info with trail information.  It could happen, but they are not enforcing it very well, to much land and not enough man power.  I wouldst let it concern you though, especially in wilderness areas.  If there are outfitters out there with horses, they will take care of any idiot who rode a bike in!

https://idaho.maps.arcgis.com/apps/webappviewer/index.html?id=2252207eb95b49f99b2c05228831dfbb

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Re: Idaho unit 26 and 27 advice
« Reply #26 on: January 11, 2017, 10:50:40 AM »
If there is a two track from the turn of the century the interbred locals will run their quads on them legal or not.
Enforcement doesn't happen.
Both parties are lazy.

Getting away from trails/roads is stellar advice.

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Re: Idaho unit 26 and 27 advice
« Reply #27 on: January 11, 2017, 11:35:13 AM »
Fly-in won't be an option for me since I am a school teacher and I only can arrange so much time off in the fall.
Thank you for your service to the world.
Have you called your district biologist to voice your concerns?
Have you attended a public meeting on season setting?
You are getting exactly what you deserve from WDFW

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Re: Idaho unit 26 and 27 advice
« Reply #28 on: January 11, 2017, 11:38:15 AM »
Fly-in won't be an option for me since I am a school teacher and I only can arrange so much time off in the fall.
Thank you for your service to the world.

Please go in and kick the counselor.

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Re: Idaho unit 26 and 27 advice
« Reply #29 on: January 11, 2017, 11:42:15 AM »
1. I'm scared to talk deer in Idaho right now...obviously (see winterkill thread)
2. I can't speak for all units but I've heard that ATVs are really a problem in 43. I've been in 49 during archery elk season and seldom saw a soul over 5 days. I do know that many of the units surrounding Boise, Challis and Salmon will have plenty of people and ATVs...of course...the further away you get from the city the fewer people/ATVs. You can really tell from google earth the places that have trail networks and also I use trails.idaho.gov quite a bit for scoutin

PS: It's an unwritten rule that you can't hunt in Idaho without an ATV
Have you called your district biologist to voice your concerns?
Have you attended a public meeting on season setting?
You are getting exactly what you deserve from WDFW

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Re: Idaho unit 26 and 27 advice
« Reply #30 on: January 11, 2017, 01:51:12 PM »
Fly-in won't be an option for me since I am a school teacher and I only can arrange so much time off in the fall.
Thank you for your service to the world.

Please go in and kick the counselor.

Yeah, I saw the thread about that...

For what it's worth, I teach ROTC.  We don't have much better luck with them than you do... :chuckle:

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Re: Idaho unit 26 and 27 advice
« Reply #31 on: January 11, 2017, 01:53:31 PM »
1. I'm scared to talk deer in Idaho right now...obviously (see winterkill thread)
2. I can't speak for all units but I've heard that ATVs are really a problem in 43. I've been in 49 during archery elk season and seldom saw a soul over 5 days. I do know that many of the units surrounding Boise, Challis and Salmon will have plenty of people and ATVs...of course...the further away you get from the city the fewer people/ATVs. You can really tell from google earth the places that have trail networks and also I use trails.idaho.gov quite a bit for scoutin

PS: It's an unwritten rule that you can't hunt in Idaho without an ATV

I have heard that.  I guess I'm screwed... :(

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Re: Idaho unit 26 and 27 advice
« Reply #32 on: January 11, 2017, 02:00:05 PM »
1. I'm scared to talk deer in Idaho right now...obviously (see winterkill thread)
2. I can't speak for all units but I've heard that ATVs are really a problem in 43. I've been in 49 during archery elk season and seldom saw a soul over 5 days. I do know that many of the units surrounding Boise, Challis and Salmon will have plenty of people and ATVs...of course...the further away you get from the city the fewer people/ATVs. You can really tell from google earth the places that have trail networks and also I use trails.idaho.gov quite a bit for scoutin

PS: It's an unwritten rule that you can't hunt in Idaho without an ATV

I have heard that.  I guess I'm screwed... :(
An easy workaround is to bring one and keep it parked it at camp ;)
Have you called your district biologist to voice your concerns?
Have you attended a public meeting on season setting?
You are getting exactly what you deserve from WDFW

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Re: Idaho unit 26 and 27 advice
« Reply #33 on: January 11, 2017, 02:07:04 PM »
1. I'm scared to talk deer in Idaho right now...obviously (see winterkill thread)
2. I can't speak for all units but I've heard that ATVs are really a problem in 43. I've been in 49 during archery elk season and seldom saw a soul over 5 days. I do know that many of the units surrounding Boise, Challis and Salmon will have plenty of people and ATVs...of course...the further away you get from the city the fewer people/ATVs. You can really tell from google earth the places that have trail networks and also I use trails.idaho.gov quite a bit for scoutin

PS: It's an unwritten rule that you can't hunt in Idaho without an ATV

I have heard that.  I guess I'm screwed... :(
An easy workaround is to bring one and keep it parked it at camp ;)

How about a cardboard cutout of one?  How close do they look?
Before you criticize someone, you should walk a mile in their shoes.  That way, when you criticize them, you're a mile away and you have their shoes.

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Re: Idaho unit 26 and 27 advice
« Reply #34 on: January 12, 2017, 11:47:12 AM »
Keep in mind that unit 27 is now first choice draw only.  So you wont be able to put in for a better unit and use 27 as your fall back.  26 could be a fall back but not 27 now, or at least that's how it was last year.  Those two units are challenging during the November hunt due to the potential to get dumped on with snow, but can make for some good hunting.  Also depends on if you're driving in somewhere up a mountain road vs. hiking in from lower elevation.  It can be sketchy if you drive in anywhere in November.  Pay attention to the forecast.

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Re: Idaho unit 26 and 27 advice
« Reply #35 on: January 16, 2017, 06:07:55 PM »
Question... how are these unitstill earlier in the season with the general tag is it littered with people? The deer still really high and hard to get to? Alot that I'm seeing is everyone hunts this in November and that sounds like when the majority hunt this

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Re: Idaho unit 26 and 27 advice
« Reply #36 on: January 16, 2017, 07:36:45 PM »
No, it wont be littered with people during general season,you probably wont see anybody if goin in on foot, and yes the deer are high and hard to get to.Most people fly in to the landingstrips in November and hunt the rut ,if you get away from the strips a few miles you wont see many people.

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Re: Idaho unit 26 and 27 advice
« Reply #37 on: January 16, 2017, 07:43:30 PM »
A tip to beat "the crowds" hike in on the trail 1.5 miles, turn left/right, hike 5000' up towards the top. Crowd free!!
Have you called your district biologist to voice your concerns?
Have you attended a public meeting on season setting?
You are getting exactly what you deserve from WDFW

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Re: Idaho unit 26 and 27 advice
« Reply #38 on: January 16, 2017, 07:51:51 PM »
Was thinking about possibly flying in during the general season and getting in a few miles away from the landing strip

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Re: Idaho unit 26 and 27 advice
« Reply #39 on: January 16, 2017, 08:47:30 PM »
Now we're talkin...but you'll be flying into the crowd, not away from em.
Still the terms "crowd" and "central idaho" don't go together all that well ;)
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Have you attended a public meeting on season setting?
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Re: Idaho unit 26 and 27 advice
« Reply #40 on: January 19, 2017, 04:44:27 PM »
Idaho has a non motorized hunting rule. You can use a lot of trails for travel to and from camp for the pack in and out but can only hunt from camp on foot and can't use your rig until you leave. Like mentioned this rule is hard to enforce.

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Re: Idaho unit 26 and 27 advice
« Reply #41 on: January 23, 2017, 11:35:28 AM »
Idaho has a non motorized hunting rule. You can use a lot of trails for travel to and from camp for the pack in and out but can only hunt from camp on foot and can't use your rig until you leave. Like mentioned this rule is hard to enforce.
Herein lies the problem, lots of guys in areas with the nonmotorized hunting rule just strap a tent and sleeping bag to the rack of their bikes/atvs, if by some slim chance a game warden happens to stop them they are simply headed to their campsite and not hunting.


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