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Re: Open comment period for grizzly bear introduction
« Reply #50 on: April 20, 2017, 03:36:44 PM »
People in WA are already sharing the land with many predators, the predators are already moving back and forth on their own, there's certainly no need to waste taxpayer money transporting them from place to place to appease a few greenies!
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Re: Open comment period for grizzly bear introduction
« Reply #51 on: April 20, 2017, 03:37:40 PM »
The answer is NO! Why? Currently the frizz move up and down the valleys that take them back and forth to lightly inhabited areas of Canada.  If introduced other places "down the valley" will be places like Arlington, Sulton, and Sedro Woolley, perhaps North Bend, Carnation and Duvall.

The elk that were transplanted in the "Nooksack" don't seem to stay in the mountains they much prefer the farmers feild and peoples back yards... why would we think Bears would be any Different?

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Re: Open comment period for grizzly bear introduction
« Reply #52 on: April 20, 2017, 05:06:50 PM »
The answer is NO! Why? Currently the frizz move up and down the valleys that take them back and forth to lightly inhabited areas of Canada.  If introduced other places "down the valley" will be places like Arlington, Sulton, and Sedro Woolley, perhaps North Bend, Carnation and Duvall.

The elk that were transplanted in the "Nooksack" don't seem to stay in the mountains they much prefer the farmers feild and peoples back yards... why would we think Bears would be any Different?

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Because I would like to know what is going to make up the other 15 to 25 percent of their diet. It doesn't seem like a good idea to introduce another predator if they don't have a current working model, why should we be the Guinea Pigs?
 I think they will likely move down to less populated areas with higher deer concentrations such as the Sinlahekin, Methow and Entiat Valleys.
This is just another shot in the Dark, like the original wolf introduction in Idaho. More BS being shoved down our throats.
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Re: Open comment period for grizzly bear introduction
« Reply #53 on: April 20, 2017, 05:53:52 PM »
A friend of mine who works in wildlife management in this state, (not WDFW)  went through the grizzly bear recovery plan and it was his opinion that going to the meetings that they had around the state would have been a waste of time. he believes that they have already decided what they are going to do and just had the meetings so they could say they asked the public. It is kind of like WDFW saying they had broad public support because people want more opportunities to hunt and fish but most of the direct comments about the fee increases were negative. they chose to look at the data to show that a fee increase was supported when increased opportunity was supported not a fee increase. I have been to all kinds of meetings in the last few years in regards to wildlife and recreation and it is very common for the government entities to say the public wants something when they don't, and also to come into the public comment meetings already knowing wht they plan to do no matter what the public really says. IMHO

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Re: Open comment period for grizzly bear introduction
« Reply #54 on: April 20, 2017, 10:52:40 PM »
A friend of mine who works in wildlife management in this state, (not WDFW)  went through the grizzly bear recovery plan and it was his opinion that going to the meetings that they had around the state would have been a waste of time. he believes that they have already decided what they are going to do and just had the meetings so they could say they asked the public. It is kind of like WDFW saying they had broad public support because people want more opportunities to hunt and fish but most of the direct comments about the fee increases were negative. they chose to look at the data to show that a fee increase was supported when increased opportunity was supported not a fee increase. I have been to all kinds of meetings in the last few years in regards to wildlife and recreation and it is very common for the government entities to say the public wants something when they don't, and also to come into the public comment meetings already knowing wht they plan to do no matter what the public really says. IMHO

I couldn't agree more... it's just a show to say they did the public meetings!
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Re: Open comment period for grizzly bear introduction
« Reply #55 on: April 21, 2017, 06:14:39 AM »
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