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help with idaho jumping off point
« on: January 15, 2017, 03:24:06 PM »
Hey Folks,

Thinking of going to Idaho for elk next year. Wife's going to have baby #2 in May, and so thinking I need to spend less, more productive time huntin for a year or few.

I'm looking for a jumping off point to start scouting this spring. I like to bike in with a trailer and camp 5-10 miles from the gate, looking at A tags. I don't like to run into ATV's or other folks and am willing to put in some work to that end.

Can anyone help me out with some general areas to start looking 2 hrs or so from Spokane? Any help is greatly appreciated.

Thanks

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Re: help with idaho jumping off point
« Reply #1 on: January 16, 2017, 07:04:43 AM »
You need to scout areas out within your 2-3 hour limit form your home, there should be several areas that may suit you. Talk with Forestry in your area about locked gates in Sept. Many areas do not lock gates for archery, find the ones that do lock them & it can narrow down your search! Preparation & scouting is part of the hunt! (grin)

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Re: help with idaho jumping off point
« Reply #2 on: January 16, 2017, 07:45:04 AM »
That type of hunting 2 hours from Spokane will not be productive.  Lots of roads in this neck of the woods.  And lots of hunters.

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Re: help with idaho jumping off point
« Reply #3 on: January 16, 2017, 07:49:47 AM »
What zone? Big difference if you live in Pullman, Ellensburg, Spokane or Newport
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Re: help with idaho jumping off point
« Reply #4 on: January 16, 2017, 08:31:21 AM »
Not as many roads with gates in middle idaho - more trailheads instead and finding a bikeable trail not so easy. 

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Re: help with idaho jumping off point
« Reply #5 on: January 16, 2017, 11:48:59 AM »
Sorry just saw Spokane. Most guys that have cherished gated roads are going to play it close to the best but the good news is, you have all summer!
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Re: help with idaho jumping off point
« Reply #6 on: January 16, 2017, 12:05:56 PM »
Don't get stuck into thinking that you have to be miles and miles in to get into good elk hunting. It can be had closer to the roads

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Re: help with idaho jumping off point
« Reply #7 on: January 16, 2017, 01:26:04 PM »
 :yeah:   Extremely good advice, especially panhandle
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Re: help with idaho jumping off point
« Reply #8 on: January 16, 2017, 04:41:23 PM »
thanks for the advice!! i know several (mostly deer) places where animals can be had close to roads but still prefer to hike a few miles in - i like solitude when hunting. nothing sucks worse in my mind than having your peace and quiet broken by engine noise...

narrowing my search to panhandle and maybe palouse. thanks for the help guys!

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Re: help with idaho jumping off point
« Reply #9 on: January 17, 2017, 01:12:41 PM »
Everyone who hunts in Idaho has a ATV it seems, and even if the road is gated or considered closed someone will eventually drive around the gate.

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Re: help with idaho jumping off point
« Reply #10 on: January 17, 2017, 01:15:30 PM »
Everyone who hunts in Idaho has a ATV it seems, and even if the road is gated or considered closed someone will eventually drive around the gate.
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Re: help with idaho jumping off point
« Reply #11 on: January 17, 2017, 01:32:14 PM »
Don't get stuck into thinking that you have to be miles and miles in to get into good elk hunting. It can be had closer to the roads

If there was elk in the area!  Great advice and I can tell you that the elk are use to places where there is heavy traffic.   Tough country with the under brush and it either being straight up or straight down.

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Re: help with idaho jumping off point
« Reply #12 on: January 17, 2017, 09:32:14 PM »
I have a honey hole you can drive a car to and  I hunt 100-200 yards from a main road as everybody drives by. There are some big areas near the MT border with no quad trails. Look into areas north and east of Avery that has some big country and few quad trails.

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Re: help with idaho jumping off point
« Reply #13 on: January 17, 2017, 09:36:30 PM »
I have a honey hole you can drive a car to and  I hunt 100-200 yards from a main road as everybody drives by. There are some big areas near the MT border with no quad trails. Look into areas north and east of Avery that has some big country and few quad trails.

This year I was inches away from shot on a 6x6 in Idaho. I was maybe 300 yards from a main road and had multiple rigs drive by during the stalk. He was vocal as heck too!

Good news is I think I educated him so hopefully nobody else killed him  :chuckle:
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Re: help with idaho jumping off point
« Reply #14 on: January 17, 2017, 09:41:31 PM »
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Re: help with idaho jumping off point
« Reply #15 on: January 17, 2017, 10:02:55 PM »
Son and I spent an entire morning bugling back and forth with three bulls who were just 200 yards on the wrong side of the unit border in Idaho.  Couldn't call em or move em over.    They weren't 500 yards from the truck. 

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Re: help with idaho jumping off point
« Reply #16 on: January 18, 2017, 01:13:30 PM »
Everyone who hunts in Idaho has a ATV it seems, and even if the road is gated or considered closed someone will eventually drive around the gate.

Happens all the time in Wa as well. I have plenty of film of illegal atv riders/hunters during the hunting season.
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Re: help with idaho jumping off point
« Reply #17 on: January 18, 2017, 01:51:22 PM »
Everyone who hunts in Idaho has a ATV it seems, and even if the road is gated or considered closed someone will eventually drive around the gate.
Lots of gated roads in Idaho allow tag use on them.

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Re: help with idaho jumping off point
« Reply #18 on: January 18, 2017, 02:29:40 PM »
Everyone who hunts in Idaho has a ATV it seems, and even if the road is gated or considered closed someone will eventually drive around the gate.
Lots of gated roads in Idaho allow tag use on them.


Every road I walked in Weiser River zone that was listed as closed for winter by USFS maps had ATV tracks on them.

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Re: help with idaho jumping off point
« Reply #19 on: January 18, 2017, 02:38:49 PM »
I've never hunted the weiser zone but in the handle it's common for roads to be gated adnatv use is perfectly fine. Unless it's posted otherwise

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Re: help with idaho jumping off point
« Reply #20 on: January 24, 2017, 06:33:03 PM »
Idaho's Fish and Wildlife Dept is having a seminar Friday 1pm at the WA Sportsman's Show for DYI deer and elk hunts.


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Re: help with idaho jumping off point
« Reply #21 on: January 25, 2017, 12:16:00 PM »
I've never hunted the weiser zone but in the handle it's common for roads to be gated adnatv use is perfectly fine. Unless it's posted otherwise
The Weiser Unit we hunted had motor vehicle restrictions(in other words "closed to all motor vehicle use") on the roads where we encountered ATV and motorcycle use.  Just saying :tup:

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Re: help with idaho jumping off point
« Reply #22 on: January 25, 2017, 12:34:48 PM »
Just a heads up, the Idaho fish and game issued a warning yesterday of estimated 80% winterkill or higher in a list of units. I imagine that was more for deer than elk, but it doesn't go without saying a bad winter is a bad winter and will effect all.   Im sure you can google it. 
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Re: help with idaho jumping off point
« Reply #23 on: January 25, 2017, 12:42:44 PM »
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Re: help with idaho jumping off point
« Reply #24 on: January 25, 2017, 12:53:29 PM »
Just did a quick search for it and did not come up with anything current. I found on the website from a few days ago where they initiated emergency feeding in the Southern portion of the state, but that the North Central and Central areas were experiencing normal winter conditions.
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Re: help with idaho jumping off point
« Reply #25 on: January 25, 2017, 12:56:43 PM »
Seems early to have such winter kill predictions but hell what do I know.



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Re: help with idaho jumping off point
« Reply #26 on: January 25, 2017, 01:04:50 PM »
Just a heads up, the Idaho fish and game issued a warning yesterday of estimated 80% winterkill or higher in a list of units. I imagine that was more for deer than elk, but it doesn't go without saying a bad winter is a bad winter and will effect all.   Im sure you can google it.

Can't find anythinges on this, do you have a link ??

Thank you very much

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Re: help with idaho jumping off point
« Reply #27 on: January 25, 2017, 01:21:13 PM »
I've never hunted the weiser zone but in the handle it's common for roads to be gated adnatv use is perfectly fine. Unless it's posted otherwise
The Weiser Unit we hunted had motor vehicle restrictions(in other words "closed to all motor vehicle use") on the roads where we encountered ATV and motorcycle use.  Just saying :tup:
like I said I haven't ever hunted the weiser unit but was sharing my experience in other units... wasn't doubting any of the weiser info posted.

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Re: help with idaho jumping off point
« Reply #28 on: January 25, 2017, 01:33:09 PM »
ATTENTION SPORTSMEN AND WOMEN OF IDAHO! Just got a call form the Fish and Game and they are expecting severe winter die off (UP TO 80%) of the fawns, in the Weiser, Gooding, Shoshone, Ketchum, areas... extreme winter conditions have forced the deer on to roads. The Game department has started emergency winter feeding in these areas. Please stay away and don't pressure the deer. Don't be that guy that thinks he is not effecting the deer. Let the game department do their job. Thank you!
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Re: help with idaho jumping off point
« Reply #29 on: January 25, 2017, 02:46:44 PM »
ATTENTION SPORTSMEN AND WOMEN OF IDAHO! Just got a call form the Fish and Game and they are expecting severe winter die off (UP TO 80%) of the fawns, in the Weiser, Gooding, Shoshone, Ketchum, areas... extreme winter conditions have forced the deer on to roads. The Game department has started emergency winter feeding in these areas. Please stay away and don't pressure the deer. Don't be that guy that thinks he is not effecting the deer. Let the game department do their job. Thank you!
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Re: help with idaho jumping off point
« Reply #31 on: January 26, 2017, 05:30:13 AM »
Idaho's Fish and Wildlife Dept is having a seminar Friday 1pm at the WA Sportsman's Show for DYI deer and elk hunts.

thanks for the tip! wish they had something in spokane; can't get out of work to get to puyallup.

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Re: help with idaho jumping off point
« Reply #32 on: February 28, 2017, 07:55:51 PM »
You'll actually find much less pressure by driving an hour or so further and hitting Montana.  More and more WA hunters are hitting Idaho.  Have noticed an amazing increase in pressure the last five years.  If I was starting from scratch I would do Montana.   :twocents:

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Re: help with idaho jumping off point
« Reply #33 on: March 01, 2017, 11:41:25 PM »
Montana is also almost $500 more for the tag. That's the reason I will eventually hunt idaho instead of montana.

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Re: help with idaho jumping off point
« Reply #34 on: March 02, 2017, 02:27:39 PM »
Montana is also almost $500 more for the tag. That's the reason I will eventually hunt idaho instead of montana.

Actually only $266.50 different, but that is still more expensive.  However, I still say if I was starting from scratch I would take the long view and commit to Montana.   :twocents: :twocents:

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Re: help with idaho jumping off point
« Reply #35 on: March 02, 2017, 03:43:51 PM »
ATTENTION SPORTSMEN AND WOMEN OF IDAHO! Just got a call form the Fish and Game and they are expecting severe winter die off (UP TO 80%) of the fawns, in the Weiser, Gooding, Shoshone, Ketchum, areas... extreme winter conditions have forced the deer on to roads. The Game department has started emergency winter feeding in these areas. Please stay away and don't pressure the deer. Don't be that guy that thinks he is not effecting the deer. Let the game department do their job. Thank you!
Looks like something unsubstantiated to me, not trying to call you out bone but there have been lots of chicken little sky is falling doomsdayers with the winter we've had here in Idaho. Winter kill is going to be bad but I haven't heard or read anything where IDFG is  actually stating how bad


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Re: help with idaho jumping off point
« Reply #36 on: March 02, 2017, 03:52:59 PM »
Idaho is feeding deer and elk in many areas. I have several guides who live around Idaho, most are reporting that there is a lot of snow, but most say the deer still look fair and some southern exposure is baring off. I'm hoping numbers hold steady, I think what happens with weather this month and next month makes the biggest difference! Fingers crossed! My advice is to call the regional office where you might want to hunt in May and ask for the elk and deer biologist, ask them about winter impacts!
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Re: help with idaho jumping off point
« Reply #37 on: March 02, 2017, 04:01:45 PM »
ATTENTION SPORTSMEN AND WOMEN OF IDAHO! Just got a call form the Fish and Game and they are expecting severe winter die off (UP TO 80%) of the fawns, in the Weiser, Gooding, Shoshone, Ketchum, areas... extreme winter conditions have forced the deer on to roads. The Game department has started emergency winter feeding in these areas. Please stay away and don't pressure the deer. Don't be that guy that thinks he is not effecting the deer. Let the game department do their job. Thank you!
Looks like something unsubstantiated to me, not trying to call you out bone but there have been lots of chicken little sky is falling doomsdayers with the winter we've had here in Idaho. Winter kill is going to be bad but I haven't heard or read anything where IDFG is  actually stating how bad


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Re: help with idaho jumping off point
« Reply #39 on: March 02, 2017, 04:32:13 PM »
I went out snowshoeing a little this weekend and found 5 fresh cat kills.  Only one meals worth eaten out of each one.  Couldn't believe it.  The deer were breaking through the crust and the cats were staying on top.   :yike:  Not good for sure.  We need some serious warm weather and wind about now.

 

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