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Offline Allen23

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« on: January 20, 2017, 01:14:02 PM »
I was wondering if anyone else experienced the same "fortune" that I and some others in my area did this year....

 I don't want to sound like I am complaining, and I do feel very lucky to have had the year that I did. I drew a multi season Elk tag ( had 4 points) also drew a antlerless tag ( 1 point ) and I drew a quality bull tag (10 points). Now one would look at that roster and say wow what luck you had this year, but after talking to a few people that were lucky as well and drew quality bull tags I also discovered that they in fact ALL had drawn the antlerless tags that they had put in for. Don't get me wrong I think it is great to have options but I don't know anyone who is going to pick an antlerless tag over a quality bull tag.

 I might be over analyzing this but all I see here is 4 tags, that no matter which one you decided to hunt for, that would not be filled because they were given to people that already had tags.

 My question I guess, is why isn't there a second draw in Washington like there is in so many other states? And is there anyone else who thinks this way? I think if you are lucky enough to draw multiple tags in a year and are only allowed to harvest one animal of that species shouldn't we have the choice to give our fellow hunters the opportunity to draw a special tag on a second draw?
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« Reply #1 on: January 20, 2017, 01:18:37 PM »
you better start playing the lottery

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« Reply #2 on: January 20, 2017, 01:25:27 PM »
I drew a few tags last year as well but couldn't hunt any of them as I ended up having back surgery instead, lost a lot of points but hey I can walk now !!
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« Reply #3 on: January 20, 2017, 01:35:11 PM »
Its happened to 2 people I know, both drew bull tags and cow tags the same year. Both killed bulls, left cow tags unfilled. I agree that there should be an option if multiple tags are drawn to relinquish one and have it go into a second drawing.
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« Reply #4 on: January 20, 2017, 01:38:38 PM »
This topic comes up frequently. For a variety of reasons (some good, some not so good) a second draw hasn't been implemented and most likely never will.
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« Reply #5 on: January 20, 2017, 02:30:53 PM »
Three years ago 4 of us drew big bull tags and cow tags. I killed a big bull while the others ate both tags. I know several others that have drawn both also. It's a crap shoot. I would rather draw two tags than none at all!
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« Reply #6 on: January 20, 2017, 03:16:55 PM »
Thats what can happen when you divide up speices into different permit groups.

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« Reply #8 on: January 20, 2017, 03:21:47 PM »
I drew quality bull and cow two years ago. Killed a bull and didn't hunt the cow tag.

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« Reply #9 on: January 20, 2017, 03:43:05 PM »
I feel that we pay to play their game. If we draw a cow and bull permit we should be able to buy a second elk tag and harvest both animals. Tired of hearing about them letting us draw multiple tags but only letting us fill one of them.

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« Reply #10 on: January 20, 2017, 03:47:58 PM »
 The real trouble comes when you draw a cow and quality bull in the same season and the cow hunt is before the quality bull. That sucked for 2015 for me, passed up several cows only to screw my knee up keeping me out of the Watershed quality bull hunt later.
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« Reply #11 on: January 20, 2017, 04:34:19 PM »
I think it should stay same.  People get to choose if they want points or not.  If you divided it it would take even longer to draw any tag.  A Bull tag is something many people wait for for over 10 years.  Antlerless tags are just a bonus and are often drawn under 5 years.  2015 my wife drew both and was just pumped to be able to tag a branched antler bull.

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« Reply #12 on: January 20, 2017, 04:56:53 PM »
I think it should stay same.  People get to choose if they want points or not.  If you divided it it would take even longer to draw any tag.  A Bull tag is something many people wait for for over 10 years.  Antlerless tags are just a bonus and are often drawn under 5 years.  2015 my wife drew both and was just pumped to be able to tag a branched antler bull.

Some of us only put in for antlerless tags and hate seeing them wasted. I put in for cow tags and it pisses me off that WDFW lets them fall by the wayside. If you draw both in one season let a guy fill both tags, we've paid for it in our years of waiting and our hard earned dollar.
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« Reply #13 on: January 20, 2017, 04:58:28 PM »
This is exactly why I decide what to apply for actual hunts vs points for each year.  I won't apply for quality and antlerless hunts for the same species the same year.  If I want that quality tag I do the points option on antlerless and vice versa.  I might go ahead and put in for both actual hunts if my points tally is way low especially on quality.  But my quality deer is up to IIRC 7 or 8 for the 2017 applications (antlerless deer will be ~3) so I definitely will be choosy on what I apply for on deer.  For elk, I drew a cow tag for 2016, so I'll likely put in for that tag again even if I decide to go for it on a quality bull tag too as I know my odds on that cow tag are all but nil anyway, but if I get lucky then great.
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« Reply #14 on: January 20, 2017, 05:26:08 PM »
We should beable to forfeit the permit of our choice and keep our points in that category if we draw multiple permits for the same species.  My son drew a bull and a antlerless permit last year and obviously only hunted the bull permit.  It would have been nice to beable to decline the antlerless permit and keep the points.  It worked out and he took a stud bull that was worth losing the points in both categories but as we all know that doesnt always happen. 

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Re: Multiple tags Drawn
« Reply #15 on: January 20, 2017, 05:43:43 PM »
We should beable to forfeit the permit of our choice and keep our points in that category if we draw multiple permits for the same species.  My son drew a bull and a antlerless permit last year and obviously only hunted the bull permit.  It would have been nice to beable to decline the antlerless permit and keep the points.  It worked out and he took a stud bull that was worth losing the points in both categories but as we all know that doesnt always happen.
Absolutely not! You apply and draw your points are gone. I like that people get their points used up faster. It ups the odds of drawing for everyone else by removing some points from the pool. Wa draw system is already complicated enough.
I feel that we pay to play their game. If we draw a cow and bull permit we should be able to buy a second elk tag and harvest both animals. Tired of hearing about them letting us draw multiple tags but only letting us fill one of them.
In wa you don't draw a tag, but a permit. You buy a tag to be able to apply for the permits and to actually hunt. I would like to see WA actually draw for tags.. i.e. You draw a colockum cow tag for example. That season is all that you get to hunt that year.  :twocents:

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Re: Multiple tags Drawn
« Reply #16 on: January 20, 2017, 05:47:42 PM »
We should beable to forfeit the permit of our choice and keep our points in that category if we draw multiple permits for the same species.  My son drew a bull and a antlerless permit last year and obviously only hunted the bull permit.  It would have been nice to beable to decline the antlerless permit and keep the points.  It worked out and he took a stud bull that was worth losing the points in both categories but as we all know that doesnt always happen.
Absolutely not! You apply and draw your points are gone. I like that people get their points used up faster. It ups the odds of drawing for everyone else by removing some points from the pool. Wa draw system is already complicated enough.
I feel that we pay to play their game. If we draw a cow and bull permit we should be able to buy a second elk tag and harvest both animals. Tired of hearing about them letting us draw multiple tags but only letting us fill one of them.
In wa you don't draw a tag, but a permit. You buy a tag to be able to apply for the permits and to actually hunt. I would like to see WA actually draw for tags.. i.e. You draw a colockum cow tag for example. That season is all that you get to hunt that year.  :twocents:

I like that idea.

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Re: Multiple tags Drawn
« Reply #17 on: January 20, 2017, 05:56:59 PM »
must be nice. this year will be 12 quality deer and 12 quality elk

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Re: Multiple tags Drawn
« Reply #18 on: January 20, 2017, 06:15:07 PM »
Sounds like this may be your year

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Re: Multiple tags Drawn
« Reply #19 on: January 20, 2017, 06:41:54 PM »
I've been playing the ghost point game with elk lately, just because I don't want to draw multiple.
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Re: Multiple tags Drawn
« Reply #20 on: January 20, 2017, 08:56:04 PM »
Don't need a second draw, just use the alternate list. They have alternates for oil but not sure about deer/elk but it would work.
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Re: Multiple tags Drawn
« Reply #21 on: January 21, 2017, 04:42:52 AM »
We should beable to forfeit the permit of our choice and keep our points in that category if we draw multiple permits for the same species.  My son drew a bull and a antlerless permit last year and obviously only hunted the bull permit.  It would have been nice to beable to decline the antlerless permit and keep the points.  It worked out and he took a stud bull that was worth losing the points in both categories but as we all know that doesnt always happen.
Absolutely not! You apply and draw your points are gone. I like that people get their points used up faster. It ups the odds of drawing for everyone else by removing some points from the pool. Wa draw system is already complicated enough.
I feel that we pay to play their game. If we draw a cow and bull permit we should be able to buy a second elk tag and harvest both animals. Tired of hearing about them letting us draw multiple tags but only letting us fill one of them.
In wa you don't draw a tag, but a permit. You buy a tag to be able to apply for the permits and to actually hunt. I would like to see WA actually draw for tags.. i.e. You draw a colockum cow tag sorry for the mistake for example. That season is all that you get to hunt that year.  :twocents:

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Re: Multiple tags Drawn
« Reply #22 on: January 21, 2017, 05:02:11 AM »
drew bull  cow and mh tag  no meat hit the ground should have  tried to return the cow tag

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Re: Multiple tags Drawn
« Reply #23 on: January 23, 2017, 08:50:14 AM »
I've been playing the ghost point game with elk lately, just because I don't want to draw multiple.

This will be my game plan now that I have the Quality Bull out of the way. I will ghost the any bull and try to get my cow points drawn, then go after the any bull permit. Really don't want to wipe out the any bull and cow all in the same season.

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« Reply #24 on: January 25, 2017, 09:33:24 PM »
I've been playing the ghost point game with elk lately, just because I don't want to draw multiple.
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