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Gmu 460??
« on: January 22, 2017, 06:10:31 PM »
Hello everyone,  Im hoping to hunt until 460 this fall for black tail and or elk . I'm a first time adult hunter. I didn't grow up in a hunting family but I have been an advid outdoors man , hiking, fly fishing camping , shed hunting. I guess I would say hunting found me. I want to take the next step and learn to hunt . I find myself tracking deer and elk following sign, learning there habits. I have a muzzleloader and modern fire arm. I'm looking to hunt the 460 unit this fall mostly because it's close to home for scouting purposes. Just wondering what you guys think good place to start? Any suggestions. I'm not looking for honey holes etc.. Thanks in advance Jason

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Re: Gmu 460??
« Reply #1 on: January 22, 2017, 06:40:16 PM »
The elk hang in the private property or in town.  :o

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Re: Gmu 460??
« Reply #2 on: January 22, 2017, 07:09:38 PM »
I would definitely buy a pass for the Snoqualmie tree farm. That will open up a lot of area to you.

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Re: Gmu 460??
« Reply #3 on: January 22, 2017, 07:13:57 PM »
blue tongue, south of hwy 2. starting to recover
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Re: Gmu 460??
« Reply #4 on: January 22, 2017, 07:22:57 PM »
blue tongue, south of hwy 2. starting to recover
Blue tongue on the Westside? Never heard of that. When was this?

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Re: Gmu 460??
« Reply #5 on: January 22, 2017, 07:42:01 PM »
Lots of Cats keeping the deer numbers low in that GMU.
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Re: Gmu 460??
« Reply #6 on: January 22, 2017, 07:46:22 PM »
blue tongue, south of hwy 2. starting to recover
Blue tongue on the Westside? Never heard of that. When was this?

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hair loss! they are coming back but about 5 yrs ago saw lot of deer with hardly any  hair on their hides..plus ive seen too many cats south of hwy 2..A bobcat and 2 cougars on my 7 acres..no shots available
I might add ive not hunted up behind my house for about 3 yrs'..I do go up there to shoot long distance and saw just bear,last yr almost hit a small cougar on my quad,not legal to shoot..but mighty temped.
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Re: Gmu 460??
« Reply #7 on: January 22, 2017, 07:48:48 PM »
I live in SNOQUALMIE and can agree that it isn't all that great.  Quite a few bear and cats.  Elk do hang on private property down low most of the time.  Most deer I have seen have been on the northern side of the unit.  Back in the Hancock property towards the alpine lake wilderness. 

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« Reply #8 on: January 22, 2017, 07:57:34 PM »
I was wondering about populations in the area due to predators.

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Re: Gmu 460??
« Reply #9 on: January 22, 2017, 08:28:29 PM »
blue tongue, south of hwy 2. starting to recover
Blue tongue on the Westside? Never heard of that. When was this?

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hair loss! they are coming back but about 5 yrs ago saw lot of deer with hardly any  hair on their hides..plus ive seen too many cats south of hwy 2..A bobcat and 2 cougars on my 7 acres..no shots available
I might add ive not hunted up behind my house for about 3 yrs'..I do go up there to shoot long distance and saw just bear,last yr almost hit a small cougar on my quad,not legal to shoot..but mighty temped.
Oh yeah. The hair loss was awful!

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Re: Gmu 460??
« Reply #10 on: January 22, 2017, 08:44:46 PM »
Blue tongue is not hair loss. There is no blue tongue here.
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Re: Gmu 460??
« Reply #11 on: January 22, 2017, 08:48:23 PM »
Blue tongue is not hair loss. There is no blue tongue here.
:yeah: blue tongue doesn't affect black tail or mule deer
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Re: Gmu 460??
« Reply #12 on: January 22, 2017, 08:57:26 PM »
Blue tongue is not hair loss. There is no blue tongue here.
:yeah: blue tongue doesn't affect black tail or mule deer
Wrong my friend they have actually found it to be the cause of death in a couple mule deer down in my next of the woods

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Re: Gmu 460??
« Reply #13 on: January 23, 2017, 09:57:42 AM »
Lots of Cats keeping the deer numbers low in that GMU.

I've seen so many cats in 460 the last few years, it's crazy.

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« Reply #14 on: January 23, 2017, 11:38:32 PM »
Lots of Cats keeping the deer numbers low in that GMU.

I've seen so many cats in 460 the last few years, it's crazy.

Did you do any  :bfg: when you seen them?

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Re: Gmu 460??
« Reply #15 on: January 24, 2017, 05:19:58 AM »
bob cats or cougars?
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Re: Gmu 460??
« Reply #16 on: January 24, 2017, 02:56:51 PM »
bob cats or cougars?
Lots of Cats keeping the deer numbers low in that GMU.

I've seen so many cats in 460 the last few years, it's crazy.

Did you do any  :bfg: when you seen them?

No shot opportunities, they all happened too quick or I was in the truck. 3 cougars and several bobcats in the last 6 or so years. One of the cougars I crossed paths with on a logging road in the pouring rain just before dark hiking back to my truck. 10 yards away  :yike: and it looked as surprised as I was.

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Re: Gmu 460??
« Reply #17 on: January 24, 2017, 05:14:54 PM »
bob cats or cougars?
Lots of Cats keeping the deer numbers low in that GMU.

I've seen so many cats in 460 the last few years, it's crazy.

Did you do any  :bfg: when you seen them?

No shot opportunities, they all happened too quick or I was in the truck. 3 cougars and several bobcats in the last 6 or so years. One of the cougars I crossed paths with on a logging road in the pouring rain just before dark hiking back to my truck. 10 yards away  :yike: and it looked as surprised as I was.

Sounds like some predator hunts need to take place. In your hunting grounds.

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Re: Gmu 460??
« Reply #18 on: January 24, 2017, 06:47:17 PM »
bob cats or cougars?
Lots of Cats keeping the deer numbers low in that GMU.

I've seen so many cats in 460 the last few years, it's crazy.

Did you do any  :bfg: when you seen them?

No shot opportunities, they all happened too quick or I was in the truck. 3 cougars and several bobcats in the last 6 or so years. One of the cougars I crossed paths with on a logging road in the pouring rain just before dark hiking back to my truck. 10 yards away  :yike: and it looked as surprised as I was.

Sounds like some predator hunts need to take place. In your hunting grounds.
Definitely needs alot of predator control. It's just so thick. Calling could get a little squirly with the cats there, you know, if you're worried about that sort of thing. Ha.

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Re: Gmu 460??
« Reply #19 on: January 24, 2017, 06:59:21 PM »
bob cats or cougars?
Lots of Cats keeping the deer numbers low in that GMU.

I've seen so many cats in 460 the last few years, it's crazy.

Did you do any  :bfg: when you seen them?

No shot opportunities, they all happened too quick or I was in the truck. 3 cougars and several bobcats in the last 6 or so years. One of the cougars I crossed paths with on a logging road in the pouring rain just before dark hiking back to my truck. 10 yards away  :yike: and it looked as surprised as I was.

Sounds like some predator hunts need to take place. In your hunting grounds.
Definitely needs alot of predator control. It's just so thick. Calling could get a little squirly with the cats there, you know, if you're worried about that sort of thing. Ha.

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Thick brush= cats. Never worried bout them cats. Let them come in and meet
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Re: Gmu 460??
« Reply #20 on: January 25, 2017, 05:45:36 AM »
I catch a lot of cats ( bobcats ) in the 460 and the he last 2 years I've had more longtail cats messing with my traps then ever before! When I'm checking traps I always carry my .270WSM for cougar with a tag in the pocket

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« Reply #21 on: January 25, 2017, 06:05:31 AM »
Since you are in Issaquah I take it you are talking about the South end of 460 not the north end where its a lot less productive.
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« Reply #22 on: January 25, 2017, 11:58:43 AM »
Curious to know how the real cat #'s compare over here versus over on the east side.

About 3 years ago I had 5 different lions on 1 trail camera in SE WA over a roughly 2.5 month period of time. Granted 2 of those 5 were kittens.
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« Reply #23 on: January 25, 2017, 01:28:27 PM »
I'll offer my perspective on 460, or what I know of 460. I have hunted the Tree Farm, formerly Hancock, now Campbell, for the past 5 years. I've killed deer the last 4, consisting of 3 spikes and a 3x3. Due to work and family, this is my best option for spending time in the woods. Is it the most productive unit? Nope. Is it loaded with trophies? Not that I've seen. Is there a reasonable chance to shoot a deer every year? Absolutely! Yes there are predators. I've seen 2 bobcats and 3 cougars (cougars were all together) in 5 years. Obviously there are lots more. There is also a pretty decent bear population, although I've yet to connect with one. If you get the permit, you won't be alone in there, but honestly I've seen more road hunters in areas of 245 than in Hancock. They sell 1000 permits a year, and there are something like 90,000 acres. Do the math. Also, I'd venture a guess that 75% of the hunters don't get more than 50 feet from the truck on an average day. If getting into the back country and not seeing another soul is your goal, this ain't the place. But if you want a place that's close by, accessible, and has plenty of game on which to hone your skills, it's a great place to start. As for elk, that's another story. They are there, but I think the vast majority know the routine by now, and hang out in town come hunting season. 

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« Reply #24 on: January 25, 2017, 02:33:03 PM »
Curious to know how the real cat #'s compare over here versus over on the east side.

About 3 years ago I had 5 different lions on 1 trail camera in SE WA over a roughly 2.5 month period of time. Granted 2 of those 5 were kittens.


did you ever drive the area in a fresh snow? Snow tells on everyone and everything.

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« Reply #25 on: January 25, 2017, 02:41:25 PM »
Curious to know how the real cat #'s compare over here versus over on the east side.

About 3 years ago I had 5 different lions on 1 trail camera in SE WA over a roughly 2.5 month period of time. Granted 2 of those 5 were kittens.


did you ever drive the area in a fresh snow? Snow tells on everyone and everything.

No I haven't. I know there's lots of bobcats running around. Just more curious if folks thought there were more lions over here than over there.
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Re: Gmu 460??
« Reply #26 on: January 25, 2017, 03:25:16 PM »
Have seen bobs, cougar solos and a threesome, and ran off a couple bear while scouting. Some cougar and bear with collars. They all outnumber the bucks of course. The elk all stay close to their Lodge down in town... :IBCOOL:

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« Reply #27 on: January 25, 2017, 03:43:12 PM »
Curious to know how the real cat #'s compare over here versus over on the east side.

About 3 years ago I had 5 different lions on 1 trail camera in SE WA over a roughly 2.5 month period of time. Granted 2 of those 5 were kittens.


did you ever drive the area in a fresh snow? Snow tells on everyone and everything.

No I haven't. I know there's lots of bobcats running around. Just more curious if folks thought there were more lions over here than over there.


I've never been on east side predator hunting. I've always stayed on the west. I would say there is probably equal amount of cougars on either side. Our side just holds more brush. So they don't get seen very often. I've cut numerous tracks in the snow. Not always the same cat either. ( tracks going in same direction) but once it crosses back over then it's hard to tell.  Find a fresh enough track and you can't keep this guy in the truck. But it gives a guy an idea on the area they range. Unless it's just a traveling Tom. Bobcats down here come in pockets. Some areas are you couldn't buy a cat. Then some you gotta switch them off the road with a stick. Either way they need to be thinned out and I try like heck to be able to punch that tag every year.

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« Reply #28 on: January 25, 2017, 07:25:38 PM »
The north side has a lot of cats both bobs and long tails but what's worse are the coyotes they are thick but my opinion is that there's more lions on the east side then the west that's my  :twocents: and I'm running my trap line from November to March every day 7 days a week . This year I've had 3 separate lions messing with cages ( different track size on all 3 ) as for bucks they are there and there are some nice ones ! You just gotta think steep and nasty

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Re: Gmu 460??
« Reply #29 on: January 27, 2017, 01:19:28 PM »
Yeah I had 7 bobcats on camera this year on the north end.  Quite a few tracks as well.  Tons of coyotes too.  Was a big downer walking around with this snow ... when you see more coyote tracks than deer tracks.  As far as deer.  As Jakeland said they are around ... and there are nice ones.  I have cameras all over and Ill get an ok one here and there all year.  During the rut I had so many bucks that would make you #$&@ ur pants you wonder why spikes and 2pts are ever being taken.  But they disappear pretty quick. They are around ... they are just blacktails being blacktails.  Dont expect many encounters.

 


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