653-654 is closed to cougar , quota met. Have any of you seen this happen before for these units ? I called the state today to get the numbers , I wanted to know how many cats came out of each unit . They could not give me that information . I told them that I have concerns that all the cougars were coming out of 653 , the Mucks run dogs ( I have first hand knowledge of it ) and their kills counts against the quota . I have no problem with the Mucks running dogs , predators need to be thinned , I do have a problem if the quota is coming out of only 653 and there are no kills in 654 . I mentioned that maybe they should set quotas for each GMU to properly manage the numbers .