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If we get locked out of the winter range, here's why.
« on: February 17, 2017, 09:19:15 AM »
Got this email and the photos from a friend this morning. Figured I'd share. Not sure any points will get across to the guilty parties, but if/when it happens...don't complain that WDFW sucks or the state hates us or anything when there are folks out there doing this sort of thing when the critters are at their most vulnerable.  It's this reason that we face the possibility of a shed hunting season in the future.

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Been flying surveys the last few days.  Amazing how many people there are out in the middle of winter range with tracked UTVís, UTVís, and jeeps.  Pretty much everything is iced over.  Pretty hard on the animals.  First picture is 500+ elk crunch down into one corner of the range with almost no food.  Second is two guys that decided to go off road on UTVís and got stuck.  Where will the water go when the snow starts to melt?   
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Something to keep in mind next time it sounds like a great idea to go blasting around elk country in February on a quad...



« Last Edit: February 17, 2017, 12:28:59 PM by jackelope »
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If we get locked out of the winter range, here's why.
« Reply #1 on: February 17, 2017, 09:22:46 AM »
I zoomed in on them for clarification.





« Last Edit: February 17, 2017, 12:26:13 PM by jackelope »
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Re: If we get locked out of the winter range, here's why.
« Reply #2 on: February 17, 2017, 09:27:17 AM »
That's too bad, was watching those elk from a distance the other day.  Wont be long til they close that area until April or May as well with the lack of common sense people have.

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Re: If we get locked out of the winter range, here's why.
« Reply #3 on: February 17, 2017, 09:29:13 AM »
What are we looking at? What is wrong?
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Re: If we get locked out of the winter range, here's why.
« Reply #4 on: February 17, 2017, 09:32:51 AM »
I assume that the area is closed to motorized vehicles, and they're ripping up the top soil as evidenced by the dark muddy tracks they're leaving, which will leave ruts all summer long. 

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Re: If we get locked out of the winter range, here's why.
« Reply #5 on: February 17, 2017, 09:36:56 AM »
Lock all the gates year round!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Protect these critters environment and make hunters be hunters by earning it.

Or just let mankind continue to rape and pillage until there is nothing left much like our fisheries.

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Re: If we get locked out of the winter range, here's why.
« Reply #6 on: February 17, 2017, 09:41:43 AM »
What are we looking at? What is wrong?

Read the quote in the first post.
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Re: If we get locked out of the winter range, here's why.
« Reply #7 on: February 17, 2017, 09:53:47 AM »
Lock it down. Shed hunting is awesome, but not worth the risk of loosing our game.  That's my :twocents:

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Re: If we get locked out of the winter range, here's why.
« Reply #8 on: February 17, 2017, 10:07:31 AM »
Lock all the gates year round!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

If that's where I think it is the gates are locked on the easy to get to eastern entrance but not on the western side.

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Re: If we get locked out of the winter range, here's why.
« Reply #9 on: February 17, 2017, 10:14:29 AM »
What are we looking at? What is wrong?
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Re: If we get locked out of the winter range, here's why.
« Reply #10 on: February 17, 2017, 10:43:01 AM »
You guys think it's secret.  You don't know how much it is broad casted all over the Internet on trails sites and other recreation sites.
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Re: If we get locked out of the winter range, here's why.
« Reply #11 on: February 17, 2017, 10:45:15 AM »
You guys think it's secret.  You don't know how much it is broad casted all over the Internet on trails sites and other recreation sites.


if thats the case, it is definitely a good idea to keep spreading that information around to other people who dont know about it.  all you had to do was take the name of the rd off of your post.  seems like a no brainer.... just like the kid who posted the pictures of a particular deer from a particular canyon all over facebook.  all you're doing is giving more people access to these animals, which in our valley isnt a good thing.


edit: seems like a good time to "moderate" some posts for the sake of these animals.

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Re: If we get locked out of the winter range, here's why.
« Reply #12 on: February 17, 2017, 10:50:18 AM »
Wow.  And I'm not wowing over the OP's first post.
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Re: If we get locked out of the winter range, here's why.
« Reply #13 on: February 17, 2017, 10:58:46 AM »
NS likes to throw stuff like that out there so people think he's in the know.  Lots of folks don't have any idea where that slope is but with a name it's pretty simple to figure out where there are 500 elk residing.  Just not necessary.   Already enough people out there being dummies.  We don't need more  :twocents:

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Re: If we get locked out of the winter range, here's why.
« Reply #14 on: February 17, 2017, 11:02:00 AM »
I'm as elk stupid as they get. In 30 seconds, I had my mouse hovering over that spot. They're safe from me, but probably not a great idea. 

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Re: If we get locked out of the winter range, here's why.
« Reply #15 on: February 17, 2017, 11:02:49 AM »
I'm as elk stupid as they get. In 30 seconds, I had my mouse hovering over that spot. They're safe from me, but probably not a great idea. 

Hey @Naches Sportsman !!
Here's why you don't post that information!!
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Re: If we get locked out of the winter range, here's why.
« Reply #16 on: February 17, 2017, 11:04:49 AM »
I have said it before:  Crop 'em tight.  The illustration cropped this way loses nothing except making it obvious which wintering area this took place in.  I won't even leave a power transmission tower, unique barn, mountain, unique tree, house, coulee wall or anything that might identify location in photos.     
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Re: If we get locked out of the winter range, here's why.
« Reply #17 on: February 17, 2017, 11:16:22 AM »
I'm as elk stupid as they get. In 30 seconds, I had my mouse hovering over that spot. They're safe from me, but probably not a great idea. 

Hey @Naches Sportsman !!
Here's why you don't post that information!!

Don't their horns fall off in the winter? Or maybe it's their tails? Anyway, that might be a good place to go look!

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« Reply #18 on: February 17, 2017, 12:02:54 PM »
And this is another reason why I will never post a picture. To many loose lips out there. Long as it has no direct affect on their spots. They will let their lips flap into the wind.  :bash:

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Re: If we get locked out of the winter range, here's why.
« Reply #19 on: February 17, 2017, 12:04:34 PM »
Let's please leave the locations and landmarks off the main forum.
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Re: If we get locked out of the winter range, here's why.
« Reply #20 on: February 17, 2017, 12:09:12 PM »
I hope that state is monitoring the winter range anyhow

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Re: If we get locked out of the winter range, here's why.
« Reply #21 on: February 17, 2017, 12:13:46 PM »
What the heck? Maybe the whole topic should be removed as the first pic clearly shows landmarks. Yet the brash posts towards NS remain?

Like I said once before here, maybe it is better to let a sleeping dog lie. Or remove pics period.
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Re: If we get locked out of the winter range, here's why.
« Reply #22 on: February 17, 2017, 12:18:47 PM »
And this is another reason why I will never post a picture. To many loose lips out there. Long as it has no direct affect on their spots. They will let their lips flap into the wind.  :bash:

kind of like every time I see an Idaho topic on this site and every one and there brother giving info in an open forum. I'm actually kind of enjoying watching this one and all the guys freak out about what they think is a big secret.

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Re: If we get locked out of the winter range, here's why.
« Reply #23 on: February 17, 2017, 12:23:58 PM »
I assume that the area is closed to motorized vehicles, and they're ripping up the top soil as evidenced by the dark muddy tracks they're leaving, which will leave ruts all summer long.

Permanently is more like it.  :bash:
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Re: If we get locked out of the winter range, here's why.
« Reply #24 on: February 17, 2017, 12:26:06 PM »
for the record and to the title of this post. "we" should be locked out of every winter range, every where until at a minimum mid April with no motorized access until summer. no access period while these animals are trying to make it. several winter areas over here like that now and Utah is currently doing the right thing.

 

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