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Offline JDHasty

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Re: Idaho 2015 record mule deer poached
« Reply #45 on: March 02, 2017, 12:55:46 PM »
What am I missing? :dunno:

this Wyohighcountry was known a "sketchy" site ran by a sketchy guy

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Re: Idaho 2015 record mule deer poached
« Reply #46 on: March 02, 2017, 12:59:19 PM »
What am I missing? :dunno:

this Wyohighcountry was known a "sketchy" site ran by a sketchy guy

Did Gary Nix own the site? :dunno:
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Re: Idaho 2015 record mule deer poached
« Reply #47 on: March 02, 2017, 01:07:43 PM »
What am I missing? :dunno:

this Wyohighcountry was known a "sketchy" site ran by a sketchy guy

Did Gary Nix own the site? :dunno:

Guy I got the email from said that he remembered both the father and son as being very active on it. 

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Re: Idaho 2015 record mule deer poached
« Reply #48 on: March 02, 2017, 01:13:20 PM »
I absolutely love this quote and think it really applies in this case.

" In today's instant gratification society, more and more pressure revolves around success and the measurement of one's prowess as a hunter by inches on a score chart or field photos produced on social media. Don't fall into the trap. Hunting is-and always will be- about the hunt, the adventure, the views, and time spent with close friends and family. " Ryan Hatfield
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Re: Idaho 2015 record mule deer poached
« Reply #49 on: March 02, 2017, 01:22:51 PM »
I agree with Idahohntr- not the crime of the century. They DID have a tag. I think the fine was excessive. I also do not condone this but I don't consider it "poaching." Honestly if the dad wants his son to fill his tag that he drew, I almost don't see a reason why it shouldn't be legal. As long as the father is with him it seems like it doesn't make much difference who pulls the trigger. I'm also curious how this case was solved, they only had to deny it unless there was a witness.
I agree with you more often than not - but not this time.  I include these guys in with the class of scum who break the rules for notoriety and gain.  The internet and hunting show celebrities, the gear reps, the article submitters and contest enterers who cheat to win - all scum in my book, and anathema to fair chase.  I'm glad they forfeited the head, since that is what they most craved - their own 'pedestal" in the look-at-me community.  They are no different than the spotlighters, closed season and trespassing scum in my opinion.  They are a blight within the hunting community, and a blight on the reputation of hunters with the nonhunting majority who support legal, regulated hunting done lawfully by hunters of integrity.
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As long as we have the habitat, we can argue forever about who gets to kill what and when.  No habitat = no game.

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Re: Idaho 2015 record mule deer poached
« Reply #50 on: March 02, 2017, 01:23:39 PM »
I agree with Idahohntr- not the crime of the century. They DID have a tag. I think the fine was excessive. I also do not condone this but I don't consider it "poaching." Honestly if the dad wants his son to fill his tag that he drew, I almost don't see a reason why it shouldn't be legal. As long as the father is with him it seems like it doesn't make much difference who pulls the trigger. I'm also curious how this case was solved, they only had to deny it unless there was a witness.

I agree. Don't ever go to Minnesota or any of the other Midwest states. Party hunting is pretty normal.
I'm fine with it where it is legal.
As long as we have the habitat, we can argue forever about who gets to kill what and when.  No habitat = no game.

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Re: Idaho 2015 record mule deer poached
« Reply #51 on: March 02, 2017, 01:26:56 PM »
What am I missing? :dunno:

this Wyohighcountry was known a "sketchy" site ran by a sketchy guy

Did Gary Nix own the site? :dunno:

Guy I got the email from said that he remembered both the father and son as being very active on it.

 I fail to see the relevance, but okay. :dunno:

 One of the biggest poaching rings ever in the PacNW involved guys like "rougheye" and his family that frequented this site, does that make this site shady? http://hunting-washington.com/smf/index.php/topic,84322.msg1052743.html#msg1052743
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Re: Idaho 2015 record mule deer poached
« Reply #52 on: March 02, 2017, 01:27:20 PM »
I agree with Idahohntr- not the crime of the century. They DID have a tag. I think the fine was excessive. I also do not condone this but I don't consider it "poaching." Honestly if the dad wants his son to fill his tag that he drew, I almost don't see a reason why it shouldn't be legal. As long as the father is with him it seems like it doesn't make much difference who pulls the trigger. I'm also curious how this case was solved, they only had to deny it unless there was a witness.
I agree with you more often than not - but not this time.  I include these guys in with the class of scum who break the rules for notoriety and gain.  The internet and hunting show celebrities, the gear reps, the article submitters and contest enterers who cheat to win - all scum in my book, and anathema to fair chase.  I'm glad they forfeited the head, since that is what they most craved - their own 'pedestal" in the look at me community.  They are no different than the spotlighters, closed season and trespassing scum in my opinion.  They are a blight within the hunting community, and a blight on the reputation of hunters with the nonhunting majority who support legal, regulated hunting done lawfully by hunters of integrity.

You have put into words my sentiments on this crap, particularly the part about internet and hunting show celebrities, the gear reps, the article submitters and contest enterers who cheat to win. 
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Re: Idaho 2015 record mule deer poached
« Reply #53 on: March 02, 2017, 01:30:08 PM »
What am I missing? :dunno:

this Wyohighcountry was known a "sketchy" site ran by a sketchy guy

Did Gary Nix own the site? :dunno:

Guy I got the email from said that he remembered both the father and son as being very active on it.

 I fail to see the relevance, but okay. :dunno:

 One of the biggest poaching rings ever in the PacNW involved guys like "rougheye" and his family that frequented this site, does that make this site shady?

The site was run by a flim-flammer and... from what I know about it, those who were most active on it were the epitome of internet and hunting show wanna' be celebrities, gear reps, article submitters and contest enterers who cheat to win.   

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Re: Idaho 2015 record mule deer poached
« Reply #54 on: March 02, 2017, 01:32:02 PM »
What am I missing? :dunno:

this Wyohighcountry was known a "sketchy" site ran by a sketchy guy

Did Gary Nix own the site? :dunno:

Guy I got the email from said that he remembered both the father and son as being very active on it.

 I fail to see the relevance, but okay. :dunno:

 One of the biggest poaching rings ever in the PacNW involved guys like "rougheye" and his family that frequented this site, does that make this site shady?

The site was run by a flim-flammer and, from what I know about it, those who were most active on it were the epitome of  internet and hunting show wanna' be celebrities, gear reps, article submitters and contest enterers

 Ah, got it. :tup:
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Re: Idaho 2015 record mule deer poached
« Reply #55 on: March 02, 2017, 01:38:31 PM »
I absolutely love this quote and think it really applies in this case.

" In today's instant gratification society, more and more pressure revolves around success and the measurement of one's prowess as a hunter by inches on a score chart or field photos produced on social media. Don't fall into the trap. Hunting is-and always will be- about the hunt, the adventure, the views, and time spent with close friends and family. " Ryan Hatfield


Kaboom.

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Re: Idaho 2015 record mule deer poached
« Reply #56 on: March 02, 2017, 01:41:28 PM »
Just a bunch of flim flammers.
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Re: Idaho 2015 record mule deer poached
« Reply #57 on: March 02, 2017, 01:43:52 PM »
 :chuckle: :chuckle:
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Re: Idaho 2015 record mule deer poached
« Reply #58 on: March 02, 2017, 01:45:41 PM »
Yeah I agree 100% with that Ryan Hatfield quote as well. The funny thing is if the same scenario happened but it was a doe, or a young little buck, they never would have been caught and most people wouldn't even care. But it's a record book buck so everyone's in an uproar over it.

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Re: Idaho 2015 record mule deer poached
« Reply #59 on: March 02, 2017, 01:52:29 PM »
Yeah I agree 100% with that Ryan Hatfield quote as well. The funny thing is if the same scenario happened but it was a doe, or a young little buck, they never would have been caught and most people wouldn't even care. But it's a record book buck so everyone's in an uproar over it.

I'm confident saying the only reason those guys got busted is because they posted it all over social media(greed). That's also the reason why everyone is in an uproar over it. I'm also confident saying they likely wouldn't have posted a doe or a small buck all over social media like that.
Were it not for social media, would any of us be in an uproar over Bullwinkle or any of the other questionable trophy animal kills we've seen on here over the years? No. We wouldn't.

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