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Re: Which deer to take in an underpopulated GMU?
« Reply #25 on: March 06, 2017, 01:38:44 PM »
Exactly which GMU's are at population objectives in the first place would be interesting.

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Re: Which deer to take in an underpopulated GMU?
« Reply #26 on: March 06, 2017, 02:12:18 PM »
With a companion card in your pocket, shoot both.   :chuckle: :dunno:

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Re: Which deer to take in an underpopulated GMU?
« Reply #27 on: March 06, 2017, 02:38:27 PM »
Shoot the mature buck.  People pretty much summed everything up already. 

Google Valerius Geist.  He has some very good books on most all the ungulate species. It can be a little heavy reading but it is very interesting.

Also pm doublelung.  He's kind of a smart guy on this stuff.
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Re: Which deer to take in an underpopulated GMU?
« Reply #28 on: March 06, 2017, 04:22:55 PM »
Let both of them walk..Go hunt an area where deer aren't so underpopulated. Both bucks breeding will bring the population back sooner.
Plan A this year is to take a buck from Alpine Lakes or Glacier Peak wilderness in the high buck hunt.  I'm PUMPED about that trip :)

I'm still wrestling with whether or not to hunt my home units at all, given the population numbers.   

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Re: Which deer to take in an underpopulated GMU?
« Reply #29 on: March 06, 2017, 04:23:18 PM »
Shoot the mature buck.  People pretty much summed everything up already. 

Google Valerius Geist.  He has some very good books on most all the ungulate species. It can be a little heavy reading but it is very interesting.

Also pm doublelung.  He's kind of a smart guy on this stuff.

Thanks for the suggested reading!

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Re: Which deer to take in an underpopulated GMU?
« Reply #30 on: March 06, 2017, 04:37:11 PM »
We've been discussion 4pt mature bucks in their prime,  regressive bucks would be your best bet if you're concerned about taking bucks based on breeding.

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Re: Which deer to take in an underpopulated GMU?
« Reply #31 on: March 06, 2017, 05:17:52 PM »
In the real world, it doesn't matter which buck you take. There is still gonna be one less buck in the world. And there is no guarantee either one of them will survive another year no matter which one you take. They could end up shot by another hunter, taken by a predator, starve in a hard winter, get run over by a car, succumb to injuries from fighting during the rut, etc etc. Wild animals don't usually die of old age. 

And depending on why deer numbers are down in that GMU, whatever good you think you're doing may not matter.  If the habitat is degraded, the does will have less twins. If the area is full of coyotes and other predators, the fawns may not survive.  A bad winter or a series of bad winters might do in most fawns that make it to the fall. There are a lot of factors controlling herd populations.  If you think that taking any deer out of the population is going to be the deciding factor of population growth, then I'd agree with the post earlier that suggested you leave those deer alone and go to a more populated GMU that can handle the hunting pressure.
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Re: Which deer to take in an underpopulated GMU?
« Reply #32 on: March 06, 2017, 05:28:02 PM »
That's a tough one cause in that unit they are probably both dead anyway, so if hunting another area isn't an option then take the mature buck!
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Re: Which deer to take in an underpopulated GMU?
« Reply #33 on: March 06, 2017, 06:03:46 PM »
That's a tough one cause in that unit they are probably both dead anyway, so if hunting another area isn't an option then take the mature buck!
:yeah: and they are both 2.5 because nothing survives past that  :chuckle:  :'(
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Re: Which deer to take in an underpopulated GMU?
« Reply #34 on: March 06, 2017, 06:04:42 PM »
Not a hunting book, but if you want to understand mule deer, then try Joe Hutto's Touching the Wild: Living with the Mule Deer of Deadman Gulch.  Hunting book:  Jack O'Connor's The Art of Hunting Big Game in North America.  It has been a long time since I read O'Connor, but he has several books that include hunting mule deer.

 

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